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ttuuxxx


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PostPosted: Sun 26 Feb 2017, 01:45    Post subject:  

musher0 wrote:
ttuuxxx wrote:
Here the latest beaver text editor compiled on stretch it has all the plugins also, only thing I never liked on beaver VS Leafpad is the line numbers aren't along the side, its on the bottom of the screen, Other than that its way better than Leafpad, It has a way better search and copy, etc.
Ha-ha! Can't hide your Canadian origin, can you? Laughing

Joke aside, thanks for those two compilations.

BFN.

Your in Gatineau I'm about 1hr away Smile Love the nobble Beaver Smile
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belham2

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PostPosted: Sun 26 Feb 2017, 11:12    Post subject:  

Finally,
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PostPosted: Sun 26 Feb 2017, 11:20    Post subject:  

ttuuxxx wrote:
Ok I just got the compiler working, I also have all the desktop icons working, The compiler was a bit of a trial and error, I downloaded a 35 packages from debian and the last 3 worked. Well Now that I have a working compiler time to compile a newer version of the compiler, one that works, lol
I think with the release of stretch Debian is moving away from being an orthodox, overly cautious distro. For example, Debian releases have always had two gcc versions - like gcc-4-8 and gcc 4-9 in Jessie. Not anymore, says Matthias Klose (Canonical/Ubuntu/Debian lead developer):
Quote:
As announced a year ago [1], GCC 6 will be the default GCC for the Debian stretch release. GCC 6 is now available in testing, and can be made the default by installing the gcc/g++ packages from experimental. Known build failures are reported at [2] seen on amd64. Build failures for more architectures (but done for Ubuntu packages) can be seen at [3]. Please help fixing these issues in testing/unstable. Some help how to approach build issues can be found at [4]...

...It is my goal to release stretch without GCC 4.9 and GCC 5...
https://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2016/06/msg00007.html
Quite an aggressive move, especially in the light of this article:
Hundreds Of Ubuntu Packages Are Failing To Build With GCC 6
https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=GCC6-Ubuntu-Rebuild
musher0 wrote:
...BTW, what's the ldd version (aka glibc version) for this Dpup Stretch?...
Not sure about dpup Stretch, but the "true" Debian says:
Quote:
root@debian:~# ldd --version
ldd (Debian GLIBC 2.24-9) 2.24
Copyright (C) 2016 Free Software Foundation, Inc.
This is free software; see the source for copying conditions. There is NO
warranty; not even for MERCHANTABILITY or FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE.
Written by Roland McGrath and Ulrich Drepper.
root@debian:~#
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ttuuxxx


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PostPosted: Sun 26 Feb 2017, 11:20    Post subject:  

belham2 wrote:
Finally,

So did you manage to build it? Hows your compiler?
Have you tried compiling something?
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PostPosted: Sun 26 Feb 2017, 11:33    Post subject:  

ttuuxxx wrote:
musher0 wrote:
ttuuxxx wrote:
Here the latest beaver text editor compiled on stretch it has all the plugins also, only thing I never liked on beaver VS Leafpad is the line numbers aren't along the side, its on the bottom of the screen, Other than that its way better than Leafpad, It has a way better search and copy, etc.
Ha-ha! Can't hide your Canadian origin, can you? Laughing

Joke aside, thanks for those two compilations.

BFN.

Your in Gatineau I'm about 1hr away Smile Love the nobble Beaver Smile
ttuuxxx
We should sit at the same table at a Tim's sometime!

Maybe invite don570 (he's in the area too) and see if a meeting of eager
beavers Wink would have any effect on Puppy's future. Smile Laughing

BFN.

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PostPosted: Sun 26 Feb 2017, 12:29    Post subject:  

musher0 wrote:

BTW, what's the ldd version (aka glibc version) for this Dpup Stretch?
Silly me, I didn't notice this afternoon. TIA.
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PostPosted: Sun 26 Feb 2017, 13:11    Post subject: Re: woof-CE needs you  

Billtoo wrote:
I posted the iso and devx of Dpup Stretch 700a1 that I built

Thanks for that. Downloaded and been having a bit of a look.

Wonder why we have mpv in there with a menu entry? Will gnome-mplayer work with mpv and no MPlayer? I believe SMPlayer will but I was a bit puzzled.

On my Dell Vostro with integrated intel graphics the modesetting driver loads. Earlier Puppies usually load the intel driver. I can switch to intel but there are a few font glitches.

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PostPosted: Sun 26 Feb 2017, 13:33    Post subject: Re: woof-CE needs you  

OscarTalks wrote:
Billtoo wrote:
I posted the iso and devx of Dpup Stretch 700a1 that I built

Thanks for that. Downloaded and been having a bit of a look.

Wonder why we have mpv in there with a menu entry? Will gnome-mplayer work with mpv and no MPlayer? I believe SMPlayer will but I was a bit puzzled.

On my Dell Vostro with integrated intel graphics the modesetting driver loads. Earlier Puppies usually load the intel driver. I can switch to intel but there are a few font glitches.

I compiled the latest Mplayer with GUI its large because it makes its own ffmpeg 16mb extracted. But it works, When I go full screen and hit esc to get out of full screen it crashes.
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PostPosted: Sun 26 Feb 2017, 14:01    Post subject:  

belham2 wrote:
Finally,

Well done.
As with Billtoo's I see missing tray applets. What about menu/rox-desktop icons. Also/still missing?

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PostPosted: Sun 26 Feb 2017, 15:13    Post subject: woof-CE needs you  

@OscarTalks

Gnome Mplayer isn't in PPM, Smplayer and Smtube are, Smplayer uses mpv.
Vlc-2.2.4 is also in PPM (must run as spot), it can be used with
Smtube.
I compiled Mplayer-1.3.0, screenshot shows it running from the command
line playing a movieDVD fullscreen.
Kodi-17 is in PPM but needs Nvidia,Radeon, or newer Intel graphics, g31
chip couldn,t run Kodi.

This pc has an Nvidia Card installed in it:

# report-video
VIDEO REPORT: Dpup Stretch, version 7.0.0a1

Chip description:
VGA compatible controller: NVIDIA Corporation GF108 [GeForce GT 430] (rev a1)

Requested by /etc/X11/xorg.conf:
Modules requested to be loaded: dbe

Probing Xorg startup log file (/var/log/Xorg.0.log):
Driver loaded (and currently in use): nouveau
Loaded modules: dbe dri2 exa fb fbdevhw glx kbd mouse shadowfb

Actual rendering on monitor:
Resolution: 3840x1080 pixels (1015x285 millimeters)
Depth: 24 planes

...the above also recorded in /tmp/report-video
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PostPosted: Sun 26 Feb 2017, 17:34    Post subject:  

Compiler is working for me in this Dpup Stretch. I compiled latest MPlayer with GUI from svn which is 37926

Yes it downloads the latest ffmpeg from master branch and links in statically. You have the option to link to system ffmpeg which would make it a lot smaller and would be OK since the system ffmpeg is very recent, but I chose not to do that.

No crash if I exit from full-screen using the Esc key, but usually I would use the "F" key to toggle in and out of full-screen anyway. If you press Esc twice the first exits full-screen and the second closes the program so best to use "F".

I have also substituted the patched version of Inkscape lite which was compiled in Wheezy.

The starter script for retrovol in /root/Startup needs a bit of sleep or it doesn't start. I gave it 4 seconds, might work with less.

Is there no network_tray or netmon_wce in this build?

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PostPosted: Sun 26 Feb 2017, 18:09    Post subject:  

OscarTalks wrote:

Is there no network_tray or netmon_wce in this build?


Guess not, FbBox-4.1 (not available yet) allows adding CPU,memory monitor,Disk I/O,and Network Monitors that show info when you hover over with the mouse pointer.

I don't know if FbBox-4.0 has a similar feature.
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PostPosted: Sun 26 Feb 2017, 19:10    Post subject:  

ttuuxxx wrote:
...How's the compiler?

Hi Ttuuxxx, I haven't had time to test compiling yet (it's Sunday, family time) in this dpup stretch but hoping to give it a go sometime this week. For the few moments I can sneak into my office today & look further at what was built, there are quite a few problems I am trying to take care of. The biggest is jwm is not entirely stable, something is going on when doing any changes and/or work on the menus and 2 trays I've set up. For instance, saving to the savefile, then watching jwm blank either the menus and tray1 back to default (where a lot of icons are missing--see reply below).


mavrothal wrote:
belham2 wrote:
Finally,

Well done.
As with Billtoo's I see missing tray applets. What about menu/rox-desktop icons. Also/still missing?


Hi Mavrothal,

Icons (19) are missing in Menu because of the icons themselves not being present in /usr/share/pixmaps when jwm looks for them. I just copied icons from a stock folder of ~icons I keep and corrected everything. The icon problems (missing) are:

For the main 'Categories" in Menu:
--Desktop
--System
--Utility
--Fun
--Exit

For items in the overall Categories, these also are missing:

System----->Task Manager
Utility-------->PBackup and Sync
Utility-------->URXVT Terminal Emulator
File------------>File Manager PCManFM
File------------>Gdmap Graphical Disk Usage
Graphic----->PeasyScale JPEG Resizer
Graphic----->Screeny Capture Windows & Fullscreen
Business--->Xcalc Scientific Calculator
Network----->PcurlFTP file sharing
Internet----->HexChat
Internet----->Ssh-gui secure remote login
Multimedia->Pcdripper CD song ripper
Multimedia->Pmetatagger audio file tag editor
Multimedia->Retrovol sound mixer


Also, yes, the jwmrc-tray does not build right, with lots missing. I remedied most of them after the build, the only one still proving a bugger is the firewall tray icon. On the next try at building, I am going to fix this so the build does everything correctly.
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PostPosted: Sun 26 Feb 2017, 20:15    Post subject:  

belham2 wrote:
Also, yes, the jwmrc-tray does not build right, with lots missing. I remedied most of them after the build, the only one still proving a bugger is the firewall tray icon. On the next try at building, I am going to fix this so the build does everything correctly.



Actually, firewall_ng (or alien Bob's) + Peasy Firewall monitor seems to work well and look nice in dpup-stretch. For me, the jwmtray-functioning icons are now complete...I've no use for laptop battery asapm icon. So, just have to test by incorporating these additions/ corrections, plus the Menu icons mentioned in previous msg, into my next dpup-stretch stretch build. Nite all, it's late here....
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PostPosted: Sun 26 Feb 2017, 21:25    Post subject:  

I am doing a manual remaster of the main stretch .sfs in order to see the changes. I took the Debian Stretch i386 build of Firefox ESR 45.7.0 and gathered all the files and directories in so everything is in /usr/lib/firefox as per usual. Debian have scattered things all over the place for some reason. Anyway with a .desktop file and a symlink in /usr/bin it is now running nicely as my default browser. It is definitely lighter than the official Mozilla build.

I tried netmon_wce but it would not compile. Looking at the thread we need to check with 01micko regarding the status of it.
http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=100216

I have compiled and used a version of blinky network_tray 2.7.5 which has all important fixes as far as I know. It uses a cluster of .xpm icons rather than the .svg ones but it is the version I am still using in Wheezy and I prefer the appearance of it over the more recent ones anyway.

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