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peebee


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PostPosted: Sun 04 Aug 2019, 06:05    Post subject:  

Kernel Release: 5.2.6-lxpup64
Build Date: Sun Aug 4 10:02:06 BST 2019
Build GCC: 9.1.0
OS Support: GNU/Linux
Architecture: x86_64
SMP Enabled: Yes

Needs firmware (e.g. in fdrv)

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PostPosted: Wed 07 Aug 2019, 04:33    Post subject:  

Kernel Release: 5.2.7-lxpup64
Build Date: Wed Aug 7 07:12:14 BST 2019
Build GCC: 9.1.0
OS Support: GNU/Linux
Architecture: x86_64
SMP Enabled: Yes

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PostPosted: Sat 10 Aug 2019, 04:39    Post subject:  

Kernel Release: 5.2.8-lxpup64
Build Date: Sat Aug 10 07:25:26 BST 2019
Build GCC: 9.1.0
OS Support: GNU/Linux
Architecture: x86_64
SMP Enabled: Yes

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Marv


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PostPosted: Sat 10 Aug 2019, 19:54    Post subject:  

kernel 5.2.5 bumped to 5.2.8 in LxPupSc 19.06 +4, upupdd 19.04 +13, LxPupSc64 +3 and +4 in my usual daily hardware exactly as 6 posts above (Fujitsu S761 all intel 2nd gen i5 laptop).

All results, as there, are excellent in all those pups with LxPupSc64 +4 still bedeviling me on waking from suspend (no touchpad buttons without a restartwm - kernel independent). +3 again normal (no restartwm rqd.). Suspends on both 32b pups remain unchanged and perfect on this hardware.

Microcode early loading continues to work in all cases and mitigation as reported by Pup-Sysinfo is unchanged from 5.2.5 in both the 64b pups and the 32b ones.

Thanks,

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PostPosted: Sat 17 Aug 2019, 03:02    Post subject:  

Kernel Release: 5.2.9-lxpup64
Build Date: Fri Aug 16 19:41:24 BST 2019
Build GCC: 9.2.0
OS Support: GNU/Linux
Architecture: x86_64
SMP Enabled: Yes

Needs firmware (e.g. in fdrv)

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PostPosted: Sat 17 Aug 2019, 03:05    Post subject:  

Needs initrd.gz updating as well as puppy_LxPupSc_19.06.sfs

BUILD_FROM_WOOF='testing;4b1f2d2c1;2019-08-08 07:31:09 +0800'

16-aug-2019

Delta to 19.06+5

ISO md5 = 4bdf748402e1bb953667c5909ed5bada LxPupSc-19.06+5-uefi-T-k64.iso

Must be applied to: 7354341ccba39c08ece34cc2f953084e LxPupSc-19.06+0-uefi-T-k64.iso

Updates are cumulative - only the most recent needs to be applied.

Also devx update for gcc-9.2.0

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PostPosted: Mon 19 Aug 2019, 22:13    Post subject:  

Kernel 5.2.9 seems completely ok here on the Fujitsu S761 (2nd gen i5 laptop, all intel). Tested on the current LxPupSc and LxPupSc64 so far. I haven't swapped it into upupdd yet.

LxPupSc 19.06 +5 installed, both as pristine and as an update of +4 on this hardware. Operation is normal except the lidsuspend now fails exactly as it did on the LxPupSc64 update from +3 to +4. Noted here: http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=1032848#1032848

So for now I'm stalled at LxPupSc +4 and LxPupSc64 +3. I haven't had a lot of time to see what has changed but have done a bit of looking with no sucess. As with LxPup64 it is independent of both kernel and pristine/update install methods.

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PostPosted: Tue 20 Aug 2019, 20:27    Post subject:  

Marv - that is disconcerting - different outcomes for different hardware, which all worked in previous versions. I can see why some are questioning woof's progress.
One possible workaround - edit /etc/acpi/actions/suspend.sh thus:
near end of script in line
echo -n mem > /sys/power/state
replace mem with freeze

On lid close, goes into a lower power state & on lid open will either resume or require a tap of the power button.

An alternative is to just insert (as the second-last line of /etc/acpi/actions/suspend.sh, without the previous fix) restartwm
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PostPosted: Tue 20 Aug 2019, 20:55    Post subject: Did I have another Senior Moment-minute-...
Subject description: +5 or +6 update?
 

G'day peebee,

In your 16 August post re the LxPupSc update, your link says

Quote:
16-aug-2019

Delta to 19.06+5

ISO md5 = 4bdf748402e1bb953667c5909ed5bada LxPupSc-19.06+5-uefi-T-k64.iso

Must be applied to: 7354341ccba39c08ece34cc2f953084e LxPupSc-19.06+0-uefi-T-k64.iso


After an unsuccessful download of the 'advertised' delta a week ago - I was informed I already had it my Downloads directory Confused Embarassed , I think you may have meant to label this last post as "Delta to 19.06+6" - the link takes one to a download list with both +5 and +6 deltas?

Today, I found the +6 delta after carefully reading Shocked the files list.

Or am I still confused about the deltas?

Nonetheless, thanks again for all your Pups.

David S.
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PostPosted: Tue 20 Aug 2019, 21:27    Post subject:  

ozsouth wrote:
Marv - that is disconcerting - different outcomes for different hardware, which all worked in previous versions. I can see why some are questioning woof's progress.
One possible workaround - edit /etc/acpi/actions/suspend.sh thus:
near end of script in line
echo -n mem > /sys/power/state
replace mem with freeze

On lid close, goes into a lower power state & on lid open will either resume or require a tap of the power button.

An alternative is to just insert (as the second-last line of /etc/acpi/actions/suspend.sh, without the previous fix) restartwm
We've gotten past some similar hardware and timing dependent bugs in this jaunt before, it's the good side/bad side of testing the most recent stuff. Part of the process.

freeze replacing mem gives the same result. Done on a fresh Grub4Dos install of +5 to an experimental directory, only timezone and internet set up, fresh savefile created. I had tried that before somewhere in my tests but did it again on a clean install to confirm.

I do run with a restartwm post resume in suspend.sh when I absolutely have to. Dates back to the X-Slacko days or maybe even Saluki/Carolina. I've gotten spoiled though by resumes that leave me exactly where I left off. Lazy, lazy.

I disabled the touchpad on the S761 lappie and plugged in a USB mouse. To my surprise, same odd button failure on resume in the pup versions above. Hence I'll try these on my Bay Trail hardware later tomorrow. Haven't fired that up in quite a while so I'll have to install both the 'working' and 'non-working' versions of LxPupSc probably.

Cheers,

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PostPosted: Wed 21 Aug 2019, 16:22    Post subject:  

ozsouth - Here's an update. Now I have to unravel what's different about the S761s Confused

I did have another laptop, my wifes' win10 machine, a core 2 duo Fujitsu T5010.

Path of least resistance if not fast. Burned and verified a CD of LxPupSc 19.06 +5, booted and tested suspend on the following machines:

Fujitsu S761 (done on 3 machines) : Resume failed on all
Fujitsu T5010 (core 2 duo laptop) ; Resumes correctly
Bay Trail desktop (intel J1900 based) : Resumes correctly

Also burned a CD of LxPupSc 19.06 +4 and tested :

Suspend and resume works correctly in all the machines above.

In each case I just set up the timezone, internet connection, and clicked through the warning box and theme selection.

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PostPosted: Mon 26 Aug 2019, 05:23    Post subject:  

Kernel Release: 5.2.10-lxpup64
Build Date: Mon Aug 26 07:14:49 BST 2019
Build GCC: 9.2.0
OS Support: GNU/Linux
Architecture: x86_64
SMP Enabled: Yes

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PostPosted: Mon 26 Aug 2019, 15:05    Post subject: Run 64-bit apps on a 32-bit system (with 64-bit kernel)  

64-bit systems have 32-bit-compatibility sfs to allow 32-bit apps to be run....

Now 32-bit LxPupSc with its 64-bit kernel can run 64-bit apps by installing the
64-bit-compatibility sfs

I've tested 64-bit versions of Chromium and Firefox
and apps only available in 64-bit versions:
Chrome
SkypeForLinux
Opera

Unsure whether this is a really useful new new facility, but it was quite easy to do once the 32-bit-compatibility sfs had been made. It only works because of the 64-bit kernel in LxPupSc.

Also works for ScPup32 as long as the kernel is changed to 64-bit.
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PostPosted: Wed 28 Aug 2019, 06:49    Post subject:  

Kernel Release: 5.2.10-lxpup64 swapped into LxPupSc 19.06 +3, LxPupSc64 +4, and upupdd 19.04 +13 on my i5 based Fujitsu S761. No issues in any, system checks and video FPS ok in all. Early loading of microcode and mitigation working as expected in all.

Cheers,

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PostPosted: Thu 29 Aug 2019, 01:02    Post subject: More crossbreed success  

G'day peebee,

I want to back up Marv's post with more problem-free use of your latest 64-bit kernel (5.2.10) in a range of Pups.

I've made a 64-bit kernel version in DiscoDingo-19.04+14 and the latest SCPup simply duplicating the original Puppy sub-folder (with my savefile and sfs-added apps, etc) into a new sub-folder in my (32-bit) Frugals partition, replacing the existing zdrv and vmlinuz with those from the huge-kernel, and rebooting.

Everything works as it did in the original. Copied savefile is fine, so networking, scanner set-up, profiles, etc, etc, that needs doing in a 'new' Pup is already done.

[SOLVED] One minor niggle for me in your 'Lx' Pups is the box that pops up on start-up after I switch to my preferred JWM window manager (see attachment). It only takes a second to close and doesn't seem to cause any problem, but I'd like to know how to remove it, if it's not too difficult?

Thanks again peebee, for all these Pups and kernels - you're making a dog's life life too easy!

David S.

Update:
I can now add Buster80 to my 5.2.10-kerneled collection but I did need to find a fdrv_xxx.sfs to get wifi working; I dragged the fdrv from my k5.2.10 DiscoDingoPup if I remember correctly Embarassed .
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