LxPupSc: Woof-CE, Slackware-Current, LXDE build 13-Jun-2020

[peebee]

UPDATE 27-nov-16

Interim delta to 16.11.2

Some big changes:

- kernel 4.8.11
- Slackware Current as of Sat Nov 19 22:45:38 UTC 2016 - including xorg-server-1.19.0 and quite a few video drivers removed
- BUILD_FROM_WOOF='rationalise;330c0cc;2016-11-18 21:38:45 +0800' including new roxfiler support in woof-ce-rationalise

[Marv]

Downloaded and applied. md5sum of generated iso correct. Pristine boot tested then frugal install on core 2 duo laptop (detailed above) updated after carefully manually cleaning savefile (I generated a fresh savefile and used that as a guide culling cruft over and beyond the usual previous kernel stuff). Normal update and boot, hasn't broken anything I do so far. My ignore=usb initrd.gz patch still working on the current 'rational' init so that's good. glxgears FPS good at 1600. As usual using PWF 4.1 to connect. Daily driver for now. Anything in particular I should thrash? I may have noted elsewhere that the 4.8.x kernels do boot and run on the forcepae Pentium Ms but the video performance is very poor. I revert to a 4.1.31 kernel for those old souls.

Thanks,

[peebee]

Thanks @Marv - as Xorg has changed then graphics related testing is in order.....the roxfiler changes should be transparent but any occasion when the "wrong" file manager opens will be of interest.

Kernel 4.8.10 has arrived already.....

Cheers
peebee

[Marv]

Installed and booted cleanly on the Pentium M laptop using the forcepae kernel parameter (Frugal Grub4Dos install). Kernel 4.8.9 does exhibit the same slower glxgears FPS as the previous 4.8.x kernels I've run on these laptops (185 vs 500 with a swapped in kernel 4.1.31 for example). Actual use is perfectly acceptable though youtubes are a bit laggy.

video-info-glx 1.5.1 Tue 22 Nov 2016 on LxPup-Sc 16.11.2 Linux 4.8.9-lxpup-32-pae i686
2.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 82852/855GM Integrated Graphics Device (rev 02)

X Server: Xorg Driver: intel
X.Org version: 1.19.0
dimensions: 1024x768 pixels (270x203 millimeters)
depth of root window: 24 planes

direct rendering: Yes
server glx vendor string: SGI
server glx version string: 1.4
OpenGL vendor string: Intel Open Source Technology Center
OpenGL renderer string: Mesa DRI Intel(R) 852GM/855GM x86/MMX/SSE2
OpenGL version string: 1.3 Mesa 13.0.1

Intel(R) Pentium(R) M processor 1.60GHz
Core 0: @800 MHz

[peebee]

I've uploaded palemoon-27.0.1 to SourceForge

however on my desktop running kernel 4.8.10 with Xorg-1.19.0 it completely trashes my nvidia / nouveau!!

with Xorg-1.18.4 it seems OK

p.s. Vivaldi-1.5.658.44 from OscarTalks works fine on LxPupSc

[Marv]

Most recent delta downloaded. Frugal install on the all Intel core 2 duo laptop updated, 4.8.9 to 4.8.10 kernel with no issues seen at this time. glxgears and youtube performance unchanged. I pretty much just use the onboard Light as my Opera fallback in LxPupSc at this time... works for what I need.

[peebee]

Another update to interim 16.11.2 .....

Kernel now 4.8.11
lxpanel-0.9.1
menu-cache-1.0.2

My somewhat old nvidia graphics on my desktop does not like the new Xorg-1.19.0 - just trying to open Pup-Sys-Info on the new build kills the graphics....anybody else got problems with nvidia graphics??

Reverting to Xorg-1.18.4 cures things - this can be done via a ydrv in a frugal install - there is a suitable sfs in the interim folder on SourceForge - rename it appropriately i.e. ydrv_LxPupSc_16.11.2.sfs.

[wyzguy]

peebee,

Radky posted a new pupsysinfo - v2.6.5 yesterday.
There is a change for the new Woof-CE init in it.

[ETP]

Hi peebee,

No problems with Xorg-1.19.0/Nouveau/Nvidia.
Manual frugal install to fat32/f2fs USB3 stick with Syslinux 4.04 boot.

Xorg picked up EDID for my monitor and for the very first time when not using
the proprietary driver, glxgears showed the correct vertical refresh rate of 59.99 FPS.

This Pup is very quick, smooth and polished. Nothing of concern in the logs and no
dbus errors of any kind. Great work!

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# uname -a                                                                                                                                                                       
Linux puppypc8531 4.8.11-lxpup-32-pae #1 SMP Sat Nov 26 19:04:44 +08 2016 i686 Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-3340S CPU @ 2.80GHz GenuineIntel GNU/Linux
#

[Marv]

Updated frugal installs to the 4.8.11 kernel version, 16.11.2Re by my count. md5sum of generated iso ok, no issues observed yet on the installs. All my hardware, from oldest to newest is Intel video now, the last Radeon went out the door yesterday with the XP tower (using wine for the relict progs now). No problems at all with the 'Cantiga' chip in the core 2 duo or with the Bay trail integrated graphics. Boots and runs ok on the Pentium M laptops but with a significant FPS penalty compared to a 4.1.31 kernel swapped in as noted above. Posting from the core 2 duo now.

Cheers,

[peebee]

UPDATED 02-dec-16

Browser status update:

The browsers provided as add-ons for LxPupSc 32bit pae

The versions of the browsers as of 02-dec-2016 with their md5sums are:

chromium-54.0.2840.100+pepper_23.0.0.207 :f89a65ce10c6a15affc06d3390a4dbdf

firefox-45.5.1esr :d376186a10b77646bddb96fb4b205c46

opera-stable_41.0.2353.69_i386 :164ef8d7fe31bd1c88bd4a96233805f6

palemoon-27.0.2 :57fecc708ca6d705e279ea6c7b33e9a9

seamonkey-2.40 :60fc21e069abe4b801891c4d781f50f8

======
also available: firefox-50.0.2

[peebee]

LxPupSc-16.12.1R is a 32-bit pae woof-ce 'rationalise' branch build

LxPupSc-16.12.1R.iso {devx} {kernel 4.8.12-lxpup sources}
iso md5 = f554915396689c1f1f1fb1d0bd8598ca

Delta is available

- kernel 4.8.12
- Made from Slackware-14.2/current as of Thu Dec 1 08:49:20 UTC 2016
- BUILD_FROM_WOOF='rationalise;04c17e7;2016-12-02 17:32:56 +0000'
- web browser in adrv is light-48.0
- firmware is in fdrv
- alternative fall-back xorg is in ydrv (no need to install unless needed)

Woof-CE build repository is: http://smokey01.com/peebee/slackocurrent/ - to be updated

Chromium, Firefox, Opera, Palemoon and Seamonkey are in the repository and installable via Internet -> Get Web Browser

[Marv]

Delta downloaded & applied, md5sum of generated iso correct. So far, frugal Grub4Dos on the all intel core 2 duo laptop updated. Boot, video, sound all fine with glxgears FPS within 1% of 16.11.2e numbers. CPU and mem use at idle basically unchanged. One thing I've noted the past few updates and may have pinned down is that even though my savefile has been sucessfully updated, on the next boot or boots it still shows as not updated and goes through another update. On inspection of the save file (running another pup), I see that the DISTRO_SPECS directly under initrd isn't being updated though everything else is. Copying the correct DISTRO_SPECS to there from /etc fixes the issue til the next update. My guess is that it is a 'rationalized' initrd update script problem. Nothing else noted so far. Using 16.12.1R as daily now.

cheers,

[peebee]

One thing I've noted the past few updates and may have pinned down is that even though my savefile has been sucessfully updated, on the next boot or boots it still shows as not updated and goes through another update. On inspection of the save file (running another pup), I see that the DISTRO_SPECS directly under initrd isn't being updated though everything else is. Copying the correct DISTRO_SPECS to there from /etc fixes the issue til the next update. My guess is that it is a 'rationalized' initrd update script problem.

Thanks @Marv
Issue raised on github:
https://github.com/puppylinux-woof-CE/w ... issues/911

[Sailor Enceladus]

Peebee, I've had someone post that light-48.0 is playing youtube videos at a faster speed, I can confirm this on X-Slacko and X-Tahr. Is this the case with LxPup as well? I'm assuming it's html5 as no flash player is installed.

Do you mean as in it's displaying the video and audio too fast? Or that it's performing more smoothly? For what it's worth, light-46 was compiled with gcc 5.3.0, but about:buildconfig says that light-47 and 48 were compiled with clang 3.8.0 (to save size, maybe?). Not sure which is better, but I think I'll just stick with light-46 because I'm getting strange and inconsistent lag with light-48. Maybe I just need to reboot and try again after clearing my ram, but I did not upgrade to 47 either, forget why.

As in displaying too fast like 2x speed. Light-47.0 and Firefox-45-2.0esr play them normally.

http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic. ... 439#919439

I'm seeing this on Core 2 Duo laptop as well with Light-48 now. The video plays way too fast like 10x speed sometimes. Some videos show as really blocky too. I thought it was a problem with the videos but Firefox plays them ok as you said.

[peebee]

Do you mean as in it's displaying the video and audio too fast? Or that it's performing more smoothly? For what it's worth, light-46 was compiled with gcc 5.3.0, but about:buildconfig says that light-47 and 48 were compiled with clang 3.8.0 (to save size, maybe?). Not sure which is better, but I think I'll just stick with light-46 because I'm getting strange and inconsistent lag with light-48. Maybe I just need to reboot and try again after clearing my ram, but I did not upgrade to 47 either, forget why.

As in displaying too fast like 2x speed. Light-47.0 and Firefox-45-2.0esr play them normally.

http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic. ... 439#919439

I'm seeing this on Core 2 Duo laptop as well with Light-48 now. The video plays way too fast like 10x speed sometimes. Some videos show as really blocky too. I thought it was a problem with the videos but Firefox plays them ok as you said.

Light is a "starter for 10" built-in browser which has some shortcomings - you should install one of the more heavyweight browsers for full functionality.....

[mavrothal]

PPM appears to have a bug.
Re-downloads and tries to re-install the deps after the download and installation of the main package.
Not sure if is because of changes in PM or the DB configuration
No harm but annoying and bandwidth wasting.
I may try to look at it but no promises.

[peebee]

Interim delta - 16.12.2

Hopefully fixes the ppm repository problem identified and fixed by @Mavrothal (thanks).

[peebee]

UPDATED 11-dec-2016

Kernel 4.8.14 now in interim delta 16.12.2

[Marv]

Fast and furious No issues seen on the last two interim deltas. md5sums correct, usual frugal install update on the all intel core 2 duo laptop. glxgears FPS up a couple of percent on the 4.8.14 install, just outside of 'noise'. Best of breed on this laptop again. One of the later flashplayer updates woke up my Opera 12.16 youtube again so I don't usually use light/chromium/iron/palemoon/Midori/Slimjet/K-melon.. for that at the moment (pretty basic mechanics or router mod type stuff). Where Opera fails on sites any of the others work just fine so I grab whatever is handy. None have mail or please me enough to ditch 12.16. Wine 1.9.22_v2.1 run from an SFS is also working well under LxPupSc. The repeat update of saveFILE thing does persist. I have a one line kludge in rc.update to try out but haven't done so yet as I have to undo my manual initrd edit to do it. Using Sc as this boneheads daily driver as usual.

cheers,