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peebee


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PostPosted: Tue 13 Jun 2017, 03:36    Post subject:  

Updated 15-jun-2017

Interim delta to LxPupSc-17.06.22T

Kernel 4.11.5 + various small updates....

Some early support for @gyro's initrd.gz and overlayfs experiments - kernel is built with "CONFIG_OVERLAY_FS=m" and DISTRO_SPECS are made available in the .iso....

@sage: I think this must be a consequence of your preferred boot method - a reminder from post #1 "PLEASE NOTE: ONLY FRUGAL INSTALLS ARE RECOMMENDED FOR LXPUPSC"

For additional browsers - I provide a number of .sfs which you can obtain via Menu -> Internet -> Get Web Browser

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PostPosted: Tue 13 Jun 2017, 04:43    Post subject:  

Quote:
"PLEASE NOTE: ONLY FRUGAL INSTALLS ARE RECOMMENDED FOR LXPUPSC"

Thanks for the reminder, PB. Always trying to push the boundaries...
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PostPosted: Tue 13 Jun 2017, 08:29    Post subject:  

Thanks peebee, for another puppy that can be used to test overlay stuff.
gyro
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westwest

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PostPosted: Tue 13 Jun 2017, 16:01    Post subject: savefolder error  

Error reported by sage also occurred on frugal install.

Seems the savefolder is invalid...
After the initial savefolder creation, no further saves are registered accross reboots.
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PostPosted: Tue 13 Jun 2017, 16:18    Post subject: Re: savefolder error  

westwest wrote:
Error reported by sage also occurred on frugal install.

Seems the savefolder is invalid...
After the initial savefolder creation, no further saves are registered accross reboots.

Which version?

If using 17.06.1T please update to 17.06.21T

[edit] did tests on fresh frugal install of 17.06.21T - 3 reboots after savefolder creation with creation of a file before each reboot - all changes correctly saved in the savefolder.....

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PostPosted: Tue 13 Jun 2017, 17:45    Post subject:  

FWIW savefile working correctly here in 17.06.21. It was updated from 17.06.1 where it also worked correctly. The usual frugal install to an all Intel core 2 duo laptop. Nothing else of note to report for a bit. Video, sound, connection using PWF 4.1 all normal, glxgears FPS good at 1630. Pretty light use of late but trying to keep up. Slimjet (now version 14.0.10.0) from SFS continues to be my browser of choice in all pups. Oh yea, hooked on redshift.

video-info-glx 1.5.1 Tue 13 Jun 2017 on LxPup-Sc 17.06.21 Linux 4.11.4-lxpup-32-pae i686
2.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Mobile 4 Series Chipset Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 07)

X Server: Xorg Driver: evdev
X.Org version: 1.19.3
dimensions: 1280x800 pixels (338x211 millimeters)
depth of root window: 24 planes

direct rendering: Yes
server glx vendor string: SGI
server glx version string: 1.4
OpenGL vendor string: Intel Open Source Technology Center
OpenGL renderer string: Mesa DRI Mobile Intel® GM45 Express Chipset x86/MMX/SSE2
OpenGL version string: 2.1 Mesa 17.1.2

Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU P8600 @ 2.40GHz
Core 0: @800 1: @800 MHz

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PostPosted: Wed 14 Jun 2017, 11:00    Post subject: ppm and savefolder  

Savefolder working correctly now in 17.06.21...
until update to PPM and failed download (see sage's issue).
Now Pmount doesn't auto-mount extra partition at boot, although other changes
like background selection are preserved.

No such problems in LxPupSc on self-same machine until 17.06.01.

Will attempt further tests.
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PostPosted: Thu 15 Jun 2017, 04:05    Post subject: Re: ppm and savefolder  

westwest wrote:
until update to PPM and failed download

Can you say exactly what you are doing so I can try to duplicate - thanks.

17.06.22T with kernel 4.11.5 - see above

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PostPosted: Thu 15 Jun 2017, 09:07    Post subject:  

21T updated to 22T, install details above. No issues noted, glxgears a fantastic 1700FPS on the core 2 duo laptop. One issue with slimjet 14.0.14.0 has cropped up and is unchanged from 21T to 22T. Discussed here: http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=957734&sid=8d95503bcee6d1bc8c36d00aa1c057b4#957734, probably slacko related, and Sailor E has reported it in the slacko 700-r3 thread.

Update: OscarTalks i686 slimjet 14.0.15.0 runs, see thread above.

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PostPosted: Sat 17 Jun 2017, 11:16    Post subject:  

@Sage & @Westwest

Found the problem - I recently disabled "hotplug support" when running the LXDE desktop and this has a side effect that you have seen in PPM.

I'll re-enable it in future builds - meanwhile go to :
Menu -> System -> Puppy Event Manager and tick "Activate desktop hotplug support" and then restart the Window Manager.

Cheers
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PostPosted: Sat 17 Jun 2017, 12:20    Post subject:  

Interim delta to 17.06.23T

BUILD_FROM_WOOF='testing;aadd84b;2017-06-15 19:35:33 +1000'
Kernel 4.11.6
Hotplug support reinstated to fix PPM in Pupmode=5

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PostPosted: Sun 18 Jun 2017, 03:46    Post subject: hotplug  

Thanks for your advice of yesterday, PB.
As you know, using interim deltae and fixes isn't terrible convenient for my modus operandi, so will wait on your next .iso.
The appeal of sitting indoors during this wonderful weather isn't especially conducive, either!
Thanks for you diligent efforts again,
David.
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PostPosted: Mon 19 Jun 2017, 14:48    Post subject: Menu text  

Hi,
Having worsening eyesight, I want to enlarge the Menu items text
a bit more but can't just see how that's done.
Could someone enlighten me please.
Thanks.
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PostPosted: Mon 19 Jun 2017, 15:36    Post subject: Re: Menu text  

Rodney Byne wrote:
Hi,
Having worsening eyesight, I want to enlarge the Menu items text
a bit more but can't just see how that's done.
Could someone enlighten me please.
Thanks.


Hi Rodney,

I think your best (and easiest) bet is to play with the "Global-Font" size for the system (the dpi). Currently it is set at 96 in most all pups. You'll find it either under the Desktop menu category called "Font Size", or it will appear when you open JWM Desktop Manager. I am currently using 120DPI, which is about the limit you can go before a lot of things start getting squeezed all throughout the pup. Here's some pics (and, yes, I also use big-honking 40-DPI icons):



P.S. If the above doesn't work for you, next stop is to try this:
1) Open file /etc/xdg/templates/_root_.jwmrc in a text editor, find the <MenuStyle> section:

<MenuStyle>
<Font>DejaVu Sans-10</Font>

Increase the font size and save.

2) Open a console window and run following commands:

fixmenus

jwm -restart


And if this doesn't work for you, most likely then you'll want to play with the GTK-theme: The font style of program menus can be controlled by the GTK theme. There is probably a GTK theme chooser in your "desktop" menu - it should have an option to change the font and text size. If it doesn't, go straight to the theme folder in /usr and change the font size there.
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PostPosted: Mon 19 Jun 2017, 22:34    Post subject:  

@Rodney,
If you use Chrome, chromium or any of the chromium derivative browsers, the Global Font size (dpi) increase belham2 outlined above is definitely the way to go as the toolbar and menu fonts in those browsers don't follow the system or GTK theme fonts (thanx googly). They will follow a dpi bump. I use anywhere from 102 to 120 dpi depending on screen size and the user, mostly for those recalcitrant fonts.

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