Gambas3-x.x.x.sfs (IDE for Basic)

[did18]

Hello

A new forum (in English) for gambas here

Have a good day.

[did18]

Hello

Gambas3_3.9.2.sfs (for 32bit PCs)
Gambas3_3.9.2_amd64.sfs (for 64bit PCs)
Are available at gambas or on the links of the first message.

Have a good day.

[did18]

Hello.

The latest version of Gambas3_3.10.0. sfs is now available...
This is of course, the 32Bit version.

Have a nice day.

[did18]

Hello

I just finished compiling and uploading gambas3_3.10.0_amd64.sfs.
These are the packages available in launchpad.net for "precise" versions.

You can download this version here ->download gambas3_3.10.0_amd64.sfs (click on me)

This archive is compatible with :
Tahr64_6.0.5.

Have a nice day

[hamoudoudou]

Vu.. 64 bits..

[Flash]

Hamoudoudou, have you heard of the curse of knowledge? You're the only one who knows what's going on in your head when you write something like that. Show a little consideration for the rest of us, will you? Explain what that means or I'll remove it as so much useless drivel.

[hamoudoudou]

First step is to load it, install it, then you will ask questions.
If i had to imagine alone what could be right or wrong; i will be be pessimist.. Perhaps everything will work on somebody else computers..
What is sure is that you can download it, it was not the case recently. Just use 'emergency' process, normal one does not start anything (at home, for me)

[hamoudoudou]

we are speaking of Gambas.. at least me... and how to download the last versions.. IDE for basic. Nobody is ppeaking about IMG2key But Argolance.
I am curious how Basic can be used into a Puppy..
For I= 0 to 100
Print 'Argolance'
Next I
To discuss bugs we must be two persons with Gambas installed, But if nobody install it, my remarks will be considered as bad spirit..

Caution Either use Pupsaveconfig to be able to quit without saving or start a new session ...

[hamoudoudou]

Gambas. Again ? they are programs available for use, mainly from spanish guys. Gambas is the Spanish word for shrimp..
But it would be better to try it, simply... We are not spending our life to explain how it works if nobody use it. only because Did 18 compiled it.
Nevertheless i am interested by Basic, not to reproduce programs yet available in Puppy, but to sometimes help me for boring tasks.. To automatize them..
Gnee would be a solution too, but no dev yet cares of it (simply repeats what you did with mouse and keyboard)

[hamoudoudou]

Until people have not downloaded, no need to go further in explanations.
Russia : one. Well..

[did18]

Hello

The latest version of gambas3-3.11.4 in".sfs" format (click on me) is available in 32 or 64Bit.

Have a nice day.

[Puppyt]

Hi did18,
thank you very much for updating the Gambas sfs package. Earlier this evening I downloaded your latest gambas3-3.11.4 32-bit sfs, for use in radky's Dpup Stretch 7.5 (RC3 - k 4.1.48 ). I checked first that the MD5 matched before I loaded the sfs (also 'copying' the sfs to root). Immediately I lost puppypin features - dock, menu/tool bar, and while I could left-click to get the start menu options I couldn't open second-level choices and select specific applications. I had to make a hard reset to reboot the computer. Then, X refused to load and even resetting xorg.conf failed to get the Dpup to reopen successfully. I used a rescue disk to remove the gambas sfs from the root directory before I was able to reboot correctly. It is a shame - I was interested in getting this to work,
Best Wishes.

[Mike Walsh]

@ puppyt:-

AFAIK, this is a fairly new scripting language, somewhat along the lines of QT & Python combined. It's been used in the construction of the I-Nex system resource app.....essentially the Linux version of the well-known Windows CPU-Z tool.

I detailed how to get this up-and-running in Xenialpup64 7.5, here:-

http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... 114119#top

.....but, due to the sheer quantity of other stuff required just to get the darned thing functional, it's not one I could recommend for Puppy use. Qt5 and Gambas together add up to the size of 1 ½ Puppies between them.....and this is just dependencies..!

Just out of curiosity, what are you thinking of doing with it?


Mike.

[rockedge]

thanks! I have the 32 bit Gambas 3.11.4 running on Tahr-RT-6.0.6 very nicely.

[Puppyt]

rockedge - good call on the TahrRT version - I'll have a look at that...

Mr Mike Walsh - we meet again !
Well - the son had a Yahtzee javascript assignment for school to knock off later this week, and I volunteered to put my head in the noose and help him out using only first principles I had from my (our??) high-school epoch of BASIC, Pascal, Fortran, etc. It's a recent addition to the curriculum, and the teachers are learning as they go - even I am able to spot errors in the coding they have been providing the kids (missing semicolons, etc etc).

I caught a recent post of yours reminiscing of the good ol' days with BASIC - and I've hassled the Puppy forums in the past for help with interpreters, use of Bacon etc etc. When Usborne first open-sourced their series of '80's books of BASIC games (https://usborne.com/misc/news/coding-books/) I was in on a series of Facebook posts with mates from Blizzard, former programmers from Auran (Brisbane) etc who stated how important their background in (early, line-numbered) BASIC was in providing error-checking discipline and structuring ideas for software. And lo - Usborne have picked up on that in their recent promotional material!

So I was looking for a way to motivate my children to write their own software/games, and built up a large library of code from GWBasic, QBasic, and line-numbered BASIC dialect sources including code from the Usborne PDF books. No dice
So then yesterday after some wins on the Javascript assignment I was looking for a solution to 'pipe' the BASIC into Javascript - and thereby kill all birds with one stone toolset. I found JSBasic - and while it will be a struggle for me to get it working in Puppy natively, I mucked around with the online converter and it looks promising as a possibility.

And while there are loads of javascipt Yahtzee tutorials online on youtube etc which my son has been working through, I am always(?) hopeful of inspiring him to actively create - rather than exist as a passive consumer of products. I thought a BASIC foundation would be ideal. GAMBAS could have been useful, in that regard.
Cheers

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some references from a historical hunt:
http://x11-basic.sourceforge.net/
http://tab.thinbasic.com/
http://www.hoist-point.com/applesoft_basic_tutorial.htm
http://www.purebasic.com/index.php
http://games.freebasic.net/dumpbyid.php?input=113
http://basic.mindteq.com/index.php?i=popular

EDIT: I haven't really given credit to those who have beaten the path properly for similar excursions back to / updating BASIC and Puppy - will outline properly back on the thread I started last year http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=111135

[did18]

Hello.

Puppyt, I'm sorry for your misadventure.
To try to understand what happened, what is radky's Dpup Stretch 7.5 (RC3 - k 4.1.48)?
What is the basis of the nucleus? (precise, trusty, vivid...)?
Do you have a download link for me to try to compile gambas3 for this OS?

The version I compiled and put online is for the precise databases (whether in 32 or 64Bit) and were compiled in a tharpup session.

Otherwise you can find the sources I used in.deb format on this link (click on me)

Thanks to you and Mike Walsh and rockedge for your feedback.

Sorry for my bad English, I only speak French and "Deepl" (although better than "Google translate") is not perfect.

Have a good day

Translated with www.DeepL.com/Translator

[musher0]

Salut Didier.

DPupStretch-7.5, basé sur Debian Stretch*, est à :

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Hi Didier.
DPupStretch-7.5, based on Debian Stretch*, is at:

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http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=112125

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* https://wiki.debian.org/fr/DebianStretch

À+ / BFN

[did18]

---en---
Thanks musher0, I'll install stretch-7.5_k4.1.48.iso on a usb key and see what it looks like...
For the moment I haven't found a match with the gambas3 packages to recompile....
For Debian, there was "Jessy", "Wheezy" and now "Stretch", but none of these series appear in the gambas packages3....
What would be the closest to "strech" in terms of correspondence "Xenial", "Precise", "Cosmic", "Bionic", "Trusty", "Artful", "Zesty", "Yakkety", "Vivid", or "Wily" (we already know that "Precise" is not the right choice)?
I copy the original message, it will be easier for me (and for French-speaking Internet users) to follow the course of this subject.

---fr---
Merci musher0, je vais installer stretch-7.5_k4.1.48.iso sur une clef usb et voir ce que cela donne...
Pour l'instant je n'ai pas trouvé de correspondance avec les paquets gambas3 à recompiler...
Pour Debian, il y a eu "Jessy", "Wheezy" et maintenant "Stretch", mais aucune de ces séries ne figure dans les paquets de gambas3...
Qu'est-ce qui se rapprocherai le plus de "strech" en termes de correspondance "Xenial", "Precise", "Cosmic", "Bionic", "Trusty", "Artful", "Zesty", "Yakkety", "Vivid", ou "Wily" (on sait déjà que "Precise" n'est pas le bon choix) ?
Je met en copie le message original, ce sera plus facile pour moi (et pour les internautes Francophone) de suivre le cours de ce sujet.

[fredx181]

What would be the closest to "strech" in terms of correspondence "Xenial", "Precise", "Cosmic", "Bionic", "Trusty", ... ...

Closest is Xenial, I think, looking at GLIBC version :
Stretch: GLIBC 2.24

Xenial: GLIBC 2.23

EDIT: Zesty has the same as Stretch: GLIBC 2.24

Fred

[Puppyt]

Thanks musher0 and fredx181 for stepping in and answering did18's queries for me - I appreciate it very much. Good luck for your recompile of Gambas3, but no hurry, cheers .

UPDATE: did18, I've sent you a PM about some problems on the Gambas website I have encountered - I don't know if you know the website maintainer, but I thought it might be helpful to correct those issues to assist new learners to BASIC-type programming, Cheers.