(OLD) (ARCHIVED) Puppy Linux Discussion Forum

[mcewanw]

[Pelo]

DEbian is not so much the problem. It's a big Linux distribution, it can be used in entreprises by thousand of employees, that makes necessary a lot of controls of security, data entered, updating... as Windows !
When a distro is mono-user, for home servicing, like Puppy everything is lighter.
Packages now are dowloaded from Debian as you tell, but when you dowload one kde application, debian install all KDE, even if only some parts would be enough.
The spirit of big linux is complete install, the spirit of puppy was to select only the just needed. i was a hard job to make pets, made by volunteers,

if packages dowload all dependancies, it's no more worth to build puppies of 130mb size, the first downloads of packages will submerge the poor Puppy.

In conclusion, if people need lighter than Debian, but bigger than Puppy, freedom to them.. the frog can get bigger, but not so big as the beef (Jean de La Fontaine, Pelo's translation)

[fredx181]

Hi Dan,

[mcewanw]

Hi Fred,

Your DD64 appears to be a winner - my partner has requested it be installed on her machine. She needed a 64bit OS for program Viber, which is why I wasn't able to convince her to keep using other DDs or MintPup.

One problem I have so far with DD64 is that Timezone isn't setting the clock correctly here (it is one hour out). I think I read some earlier posts about the matter, but can't remember where. I don't want to muck around with the BIOS clock since that would upset time on other OS installed. I imagine it is something to do with UTC or Local time - I used to know about that kind of thing, but been to long since I played with it all and forget how.

Oh, the other thing is, we tried getting some Philippines radio stations on DogRadio in DD64, but none came up in search. They used to in previous DogRadio so I realise you must have a different search list - what was the large list you used before?

As I say, time will tell, but DD64 looking good. I was thinking of modifying Linux MInt 64 to provide the functionality of the various DDs and Mintpup, but don't know enough about all that has been done in DD and so much to search... Hence happy to have this DD64. I'm wondering how many changes you needed to make to its initrd to get porteus boot to work?

Cheers,

William

[fredx181]

Hi William,

[anikin]

Fred, please, don't be shy to refer to this DD Howto section:
Awhile ago, a good Samaritan, who goes by the forum name of anikin made an attempt to explain the issue here:
http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=806203#806203
Let me just add a thought about ntp. In my view, Toni should not include it in official DD releases, because it makes things more complicated. Honestly, an average Joe Beercan doesn't need that kind of time precision on their machines. Which also comes at a price - a needless (surprise/unwanted) connection to a time server. Those who do, can easily install ntp themselves.

[fredx181]

sorry, deleted

[mcewanw]

Hello Fred,

Thanks, I'll try resetting time by one of the methods you suggests - should be fine.

Also, sorry, DogRadio is finding Philippine radio stations afterall - maybe after I re-indexed? Anyway, works... The radio is being used a lot here!

EDIT: Fred, turns out my BIOS clock was set wrongly and I didn't notice ... I am using Local time, and once I reset my BIOS clock all was fine...

Cheers, William

[mcewanw]

Hello again Fred,

Whilst I know how to run, for example, Skype with apulse, I actually want to get pulseaudio itself running. However, after installing it via apt-get I can't get it to start the pulseaudio daemon with pulseaudio --start, or with pulseaudio --system. The first says it isn't designed to run as root user, and the daemon doesn't start, and the second gives permission error message:

[Atle]

Testing of new version and "quick install"...


Usually I download a puppy, click on the .ISO file and then copy them over to where i want them. Then i run Grub4Dos and reboot into the puppy for a look...

Now this method failed here. Grub4Dos could not pick it up.

Anything I could do different in order to try it without CD/USB?

Atle

[oui]

oh! Atle

DebianDog64 - 64 bit DebianDog-Jessie

is not really a Puppy... In my eyes, it is the next generation of Linux or OS! Puppy linux only hosts actually that new system with other possibilities: More possibilities as Debian, more as Puppy Linux did have. But, it is good so, DebianDog64 - 64 bit DebianDog-Jessie did learn a lot of Puppy Linux. So both are progressing a lot working together.

You really need to adapt your grub configuration file to start DebianDog64 - 64 bit DebianDog-Jessie...

it is so...

and you are not free to let all smudge you want on your disk: DebianDog64 - 64 bit DebianDog-Jessie will find and USE it!

but DebianDog64 - 64 bit DebianDog-Jessie is actually probably the best operating system even been created.

my actual grub.cfg (for the real actual GNU grub!):

[fredx181]

Hi William,

[fredx181]

Thanks oui!

@Atle

For porteus-boot grub4dos menu.lst entry:
Say you have created folder "debdog64" on the root of sda1, copy the "live" folder inside, so you get /debdog64/live

[oui]

Hi Fred

writing my precedent answer for Atle, I did search and look for links... As I see, for us Jejy69, for SourceForge Loukitchou (in both cases Jerome out Perpignan/France), did create an home at SourceForge in 2014 before he did become student (he is now student and I did read somewhere it is the reason because his contributions to linux have to be reduce!).

I suppose it would be a real good thing DebianDog64 - 64 bit DebianDog-Jessie would get an home (as you know, I have an own remasterised version of it. It is now a big *.squashfs with now ab. 430 MB, finished the initial attempt to reduce the size to an only "one-bone" or somewhat at that. but it contains an extremely rich environment for my daily activities, is extremely fast, does not require some activity of the cooling fan, the laptop stay about completely cool also if I compile all the base of LinuxFromScratch (a lot of other systems warm the laptop without to do something interesting at all !), and better it remasterizing if needing daily is a real pleasure (on my second really powerful laptop; but the big system runs also problem less on my old absolutely not powerful laptop, the emachine of Acer named in the left rand of my messages...).

[oui]

view on the JWM screen with hidden tray shown and on the subdir /usr/share/applications showing the resident applications (not coming from external dosquashfs files)

actual /etc/jwm/system.jwmrc