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Re: Quirky Xerus 8.1.6 for x86_64, released Jan. 13, 2017

#406 Post by BarryK »

ETP wrote:Bug report:

An intermittent issue present in this version and also in previous versions is a hang
at boot time with the message "Recognising media devices.....optical". Only a hard reboot
fixes the issue which I would say occurs about 5 to 10% of the time.

The text comes from the block of code starting at line 566 in rc.sysinit and my gut feeling
is that it is some kind of timing issue.
Yes, I have also had this problem. It has been going on for years, overdue to do something about it!

Looking at the code in rc.sysinit, there is only one line that could possibly hang:

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[ "$DVDTYPE" ] && hdparm -d1 /dev/$DVDTYPE >/dev/null 2>&1
So, have commented it out.
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Re: Quirky Xerus 8.1.6 for x86_64, released Jan. 13, 2017

#407 Post by BarryK »

ETP wrote:Certainly an issue but maybe a bug:

The set volume level is not preserved across reboots but always defaults to zero.
The config files seem to imply that it can be set but the mechanism to do so is
not working. Manually editing them also has no effect.

The included version of PNMixer (0.5.1) appears to date from 2011/12 and there have
been multiple releases since then. The latest version (0.7) was released on 18th Sept 2016.
Perhaps that has addressed this issue.

https://github.com/nicklan/pnmixer/releases

https://github.com/nicklan/pnmixer/wiki

EDIT 20th January 2017:
I note that pnmixer-0.6.1-1 is available in QPM
Have gone back to pizzasgood's retrovol.
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#408 Post by BarryK »

jd7654 wrote:
belham2 wrote: Also, the errors in init stage introduced in 8.1.6 live/frugal compared to 8.0 are still there:

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Making the filesystem usable...mv: cannot move '/var' to a subdirectory of itsel
f, '/root/.var'
rm: cannot remove '/var/local/lib': Directory not empty
rm: cannot remove '/var/local/pupdial': Directory not empty
I plan to do some testing of the frugal install, I have neglected it.

Anyway, that failed "mv" is fixed.
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Re: Galculator scientific calculator does not work

#409 Post by BarryK »

FeodorF wrote:The Galculator scientific calculator does not work. xerrs.log shows:
galculator: error while loading shared libraries: libquadmath.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory

Add up: Galculator works well in the Quirky SlaQ 8.1.6 x86_64 release; works fine in Xerus 8.0 final too. Used the .ISO for testing.
Fixed.
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Re: UrxvtSet setup terminal emulator does not work.

#410 Post by BarryK »

FeodorF wrote:Menu -> Desktop -> UrxvtSet setup terminal emulator does not work. xerrs.log:

Current Urxvt terminal settings
#000000000000
#f8f8f8f8f8f8
#ffff00000000
80x25
14
Nimbus Mono L:Regular
Off
85
Off
/usr/sbin/urxvtset: line 99: yad: command not found

Add up: Urxvt Setup - v0.5.1 works fine in Quirky Werewolf64-7.4; works fine in Xerus 8.0 final too. Used the .ISO for testing.
Yes, yad is missing from Quirky 8.1.6.
I left it out because the Ubuntu yad DEB is for gtk+3, and when I tried to compile it, got a compile fail.

Today I downloaded the latest, 0.39, and it compiled ok, so that is going into the next build.
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#411 Post by BarryK »

belham2 wrote: hwclock --hctosys --localtime #160427 from util-linux. assuming hw clock set to local

if grep -qw aufs /proc/filesystems; then
LAYERFS='aufs'
RO='=ro'
else
LAYERFS='overlay'
RO=''
fi


(put a "#" in front of each and every one of these lines, so the init script will ignore them).
This "fix" is a problem for me, as there is nothing apparently wrong with that code.

In fact, it is required, if there is going to be a choice of using aufs or overlay.
/proc/filesystems shows what filesystems the kernel supports.

I am wondering if there has been some confusion of the two. Maybe aufs used when creating the savefile, then at bootup it wants to use overlay. Which I don't see as a problem anyway.

I can't recall when I was using aufs. The kernel in Xerus x86_64 8.1.6
only has overlay. So, that code will always generate "LAYERFS=overlay", which is fine.

Well, I am going to compile a kernel, maybe 4.12.x, and again, will not have aufs in it. I will do testing of frugal and savefile, make sure it works.
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#412 Post by BarryK »

BarryK wrote:
belham2 wrote: Also, the errors in init stage introduced in 8.1.6 live/frugal compared to 8.0 are still there:

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Making the filesystem usable...mv: cannot move '/var' to a subdirectory of itsel
f, '/root/.var'
rm: cannot remove '/var/local/lib': Directory not empty
rm: cannot remove '/var/local/pupdial': Directory not empty
I plan to do some testing of the frugal install, I have neglected it.

Anyway, that failed "mv" is fixed.
Major progress. I am not surprised that you had trouble with live-CD and frugal saved-session, etc.

I found one bug, in the 'init' script in the initramfs, when booting from live-CD. The path was wrong when using overlay filesystem instead of aufs.

But then I hit a major show-stopper. I discovered that overlay filesystem is broken. This is for a simple two-layer, /dev/zram0 on read-write layer (with ext2 f.s.) and q.sfs on bottom read-only layer.
A simple "rm -rf foldername" fails.

I reported this on my blog. Googled and found this to be a problem with overlay for years, put one link into my post:
http://barryk.org/news/?viewDetailed=00591

Aaaargggghhh! The kernel in Quirky Xerus64 8.1.6 has a broken overlayfs!

I have recompiled the 4.11.9 kernel patched for aufs, and now the live-CD/frugal save-session works perfectly. Those errors you have reported at bootup have disappeared. "rm" now works.

I got lulled, thinking that overlay is now mature. But it, and btrfs, should be moved out to "staging"!

There are more tests to do, hope to have 8.2-RC (or a beta) out soon.
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#413 Post by linuxcbon »

Hi,

I am still downloading.
I told you that xine was the best :) Why nobody listens to me ? LOL.

Is this corrected this in ppm ?

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/usr/local/petget/installpreview.sh: line 101: [: 13757: unary operator expected
 if [ $SIZEVALx2 -ge $SIZEFREEK ];then

/usr/local/petget/installpreview.sh: line 311: [: 25350: unary operator expected
[ $testSIZEK -gt $SIZEFREEK ]
- /etc/xdg/templates/_root_.jwmrc
has too many obsolete entries like : Gaim xmms

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#414 Post by BarryK »

A new version! About time too! :D

I have uploaded Quirky Xerus 8.1.94, for PCs with 64-bit CPUs.
This is a beta release, the final will be 8.2.

At this stage, I can't find any fault with it, but I am sure issues will be found.

Lots of updates and bug fixes. But the biggest fix is dumping of overlay filesystem and return to aufs.

Here is my blog announcement:

http://barryk.org/news/?viewDetailed=00593

Testers invited, feedback is welcome!

And one question: is there still interest in a 32-bit build?
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#415 Post by linuxcbon »

See my post just before.

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#416 Post by musher0 »

BarryK wrote:A new version! About time too! :D

I have uploaded Quirky Xerus 8.1.94, for PCs with 64-bit CPUs.
This is a beta release, the final will be 8.2.

At this stage, I can't find any fault with it, but I am sure issues will be found.

Lots of updates and bug fixes. But the biggest fix is dumping of overlay filesystem and return to aufs.

Here is my blog announcement:

http://barryk.org/news/?viewDetailed=00593

Testers invited, feedback is welcome!

And one question: is there still interest in a 32-bit build?
Thanks for this, Mr. Kauler. Downloading now.

In answer to your question:
I, for one, would be interested in a 32-bit build.
TIA.
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#417 Post by musher0 »

Hello, Mr. Kauler.

I was unsuccessful booting from a directory on sda1. Various infos follow.
IHTH.

Best regards.

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I hope you can make sense of the following snapshots. The main thing
seems to be that the boot process cannot find /sbin/init, which provokes
a kernel panic.

IMG_0195.JPGImage

IMG_0196.JPGImage

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This is the tree of the directory it's in:

[/initrd/mnt/dev_save]>tree -fish xerus64Quirky-8.1.94/
xerus64Quirky-8.1.94
[2.0K] xerus64Quirky-8.1.94/boot.cat
[ 86] xerus64Quirky-8.1.94/boot.msg
[8.0M] xerus64Quirky-8.1.94/efiboot.img
[ 577] xerus64Quirky-8.1.94/help.msg
[1.2M] xerus64Quirky-8.1.94/initrd.q
[ 24K] xerus64Quirky-8.1.94/isolinux.bin
[ 141] xerus64Quirky-8.1.94/isolinux.cfg
[4.0K] xerus64Quirky-8.1.94/lance
[114K] xerus64Quirky-8.1.94/ldlinux.c32
[8.8K] xerus64Quirky-8.1.94/logo.16
[4.2M] xerus64Quirky-8.1.94/vmlinuz

The q.sfs file being at /initrd/mnt/dev_save/q.sfs,
but the result was the same with the q.sfs file inside the
/initrd/mnt/dev_save/xerus64Quirky-8.1.94 folder.

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This is the notebook I tried it on:

H/W path Device Class Description
================================================
system HP Compaq 6715b (RK156AV) (RK156AV)
/0 bus 30C2
/0/0 memory 128KiB BIOS
/0/4 processor AMD Turion(tm) 64 X2 Mobile Technology TL-52
/0/4/5 memory 128KiB L1 cache
/0/4/6 memory 512KiB L2 cache
/0/a memory 4GiB System Memory
/0/a/0 memory 2GiB SODIMM DDR2 Synchronous 667 MHz (1,5 ns)
/0/a/1 memory 2GiB SODIMM DDR2 Synchronous 667 MHz (1,5 ns)
/0/100 bridge RS690 Host Bridge
/0/100/1 bridge RS690 PCI to PCI Bridge (Internal gfx)
/0/100/1/5 display RS690M [Radeon Xpress 1200/1250/1270]
/0/100/4 bridge Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI]
/0/100/4/0 eth0 network NetLink BCM5787M Gigabit Ethernet PCI Express
/0/100/5 bridge RS690 PCI to PCI Bridge (PCI Express Port 1)
/0/100/12 storage SB600 Non-Raid-5 SATA
/0/100/13 bus SB600 USB (OHCI0)
/0/100/13.1 bus SB600 USB (OHCI1)
/0/100/13.2 bus SB600 USB (OHCI2)
/0/100/13.3 bus SB600 USB (OHCI3)
/0/100/13.4 bus SB600 USB (OHCI4)
/0/100/13.5 bus SB600 USB Controller (EHCI)
/0/100/14 bus SBx00 SMBus Controller
/0/100/14.1 storage SB600 IDE
/0/100/14.2 multimedia SBx00 Azalia (Intel HDA)
/0/100/14.3 bridge SB600 PCI to LPC Bridge
/0/100/14.4 bridge SBx00 PCI to PCI Bridge
/0/100/14.4/4 bridge RL5c476 II
/0/100/14.4/4.1 bus R5C832 IEEE 1394 Controller
/0/101 bridge K8 [Athlon64/Opteron] HyperTransport Technology Configuration
/0/102 bridge K8 [Athlon64/Opteron] Address Map
/0/103 bridge K8 [Athlon64/Opteron] DRAM Controller
/0/104 bridge K8 [Athlon64/Opteron] Miscellaneous Control
/1 scsi6 storage
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Quirky Xerus 8.1.94 for x86_64, released July 13, 2017

#418 Post by Billtoo »

I burned the iso to a DVD and ran the installer to a 32gb flash drive.

Computer
Processor 4x Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Quad CPU Q6600 @ 2.40GHz
Memory 8183MB (124MB used)
Machine Type Physical machine
Operating System Quirky Xerus64
User Name root (root)
Date/Time Thu Jul 13 15:12:31 2017
Display
Resolution 1920x1080 pixels
OpenGL Renderer Gallium 0.4 on NVC1
X11 Vendor The X.Org Foundation
Audio Devices
Audio Adapter HDA-Intel - HDA Intel
Audio Adapter HDA-Intel - HDA NVidia

I'm going to download the devx and kernel sources then see if I can
install the proprietary Nvidia driver.

So far have installed Firefox and a few kde games with QPM.

Thanks.

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#419 Post by linuxcbon »

musher0 wrote:Hello, Mr. Kauler.
I was unsuccessful booting from a directory on sda1. Various infos follow.
IHTH.
Best regards.
I had no problem to boot.
Can you describe the exact steps of your installation ?
Is it full or frugal ?
To hard disk or usb stick ?
What commands or steps did you use to install ?
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#420 Post by belham2 »

Wow, Barry (are we still allowed to say "wow" on murga---haha :D ) I know I've only been using your creations since the first Precise-5.7 came out some years ago, but out of everything you've done up-to-date, I believe this Quirky is hands down the most beautiful-themed/icon/colours of any of your creations. Add in the fact that "frugal" installing it worked right away, recognizing my dual monitors, and stuff I added like qupzilla, redshift-gui, tas, conkytoggle-switch, iqpuzzle and also the stuff added from PPM (PPM has worked great so far) like qiv (for conky transparency), sakura terminal, and dreamchess....well, I think I am in love again with Quirky. :) Congrats!

Will keep testing this the next few weeks----so far, I can't find a thing wrong with it & that's saying something as I usually crashed all the previous Quirky/Werewolfs/etc by now. :wink:
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#421 Post by belham2 »

musher0 wrote:Hello, Mr. Kauler.

I was unsuccessful booting from a directory on sda1. Various infos follow.
IHTH.

Best regards.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

I hope you can make sense of the following snapshots. The main thing
seems to be that the boot process cannot find /sbin/init, which provokes
a kernel panic.

IMG_0195.JPGImage

IMG_0196.JPGImage

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
This is the tree of the directory it's in:

[/initrd/mnt/dev_save]>tree -fish xerus64Quirky-8.1.94/
xerus64Quirky-8.1.94
[2.0K] xerus64Quirky-8.1.94/boot.cat
[ 86] xerus64Quirky-8.1.94/boot.msg
[8.0M] xerus64Quirky-8.1.94/efiboot.img
[ 577] xerus64Quirky-8.1.94/help.msg
[1.2M] xerus64Quirky-8.1.94/initrd.q
[ 24K] xerus64Quirky-8.1.94/isolinux.bin
[ 141] xerus64Quirky-8.1.94/isolinux.cfg
[4.0K] xerus64Quirky-8.1.94/lance
[114K] xerus64Quirky-8.1.94/ldlinux.c32
[8.8K] xerus64Quirky-8.1.94/logo.16
[4.2M] xerus64Quirky-8.1.94/vmlinuz

The q.sfs file being at /initrd/mnt/dev_save/q.sfs,
but the result was the same with the q.sfs file inside the
/initrd/mnt/dev_save/xerus64Quirky-8.1.94 folder.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~
This is the notebook I tried it on:

H/W path Device Class Description
================================================
system HP Compaq 6715b (RK156AV) (RK156AV)
/0 bus 30C2
/0/0 memory 128KiB BIOS
/0/4 processor AMD Turion(tm) 64 X2 Mobile Technology TL-52
/0/4/5 memory 128KiB L1 cache
/0/4/6 memory 512KiB L2 cache
/0/a memory 4GiB System Memory
/0/a/0 memory 2GiB SODIMM DDR2 Synchronous 667 MHz (1,5 ns)
/0/a/1 memory 2GiB SODIMM DDR2 Synchronous 667 MHz (1,5 ns)
/0/100 bridge RS690 Host Bridge
/0/100/1 bridge RS690 PCI to PCI Bridge (Internal gfx)
/0/100/1/5 display RS690M [Radeon Xpress 1200/1250/1270]
/0/100/4 bridge Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI]
/0/100/4/0 eth0 network NetLink BCM5787M Gigabit Ethernet PCI Express
/0/100/5 bridge RS690 PCI to PCI Bridge (PCI Express Port 1)
/0/100/12 storage SB600 Non-Raid-5 SATA
/0/100/13 bus SB600 USB (OHCI0)
/0/100/13.1 bus SB600 USB (OHCI1)
/0/100/13.2 bus SB600 USB (OHCI2)
/0/100/13.3 bus SB600 USB (OHCI3)
/0/100/13.4 bus SB600 USB (OHCI4)
/0/100/13.5 bus SB600 USB Controller (EHCI)
/0/100/14 bus SBx00 SMBus Controller
/0/100/14.1 storage SB600 IDE
/0/100/14.2 multimedia SBx00 Azalia (Intel HDA)
/0/100/14.3 bridge SB600 PCI to LPC Bridge
/0/100/14.4 bridge SBx00 PCI to PCI Bridge
/0/100/14.4/4 bridge RL5c476 II
/0/100/14.4/4.1 bus R5C832 IEEE 1394 Controller
/0/101 bridge K8 [Athlon64/Opteron] HyperTransport Technology Configuration
/0/102 bridge K8 [Athlon64/Opteron] Address Map
/0/103 bridge K8 [Athlon64/Opteron] DRAM Controller
/0/104 bridge K8 [Athlon64/Opteron] Miscellaneous Control
/1 scsi6 storage

Hi Musher,

If you're frugal booting (using the limited savefile Barry incorporates), your grub4dos has (you cannot deviate) to look like this (my frugal folder is called "Quirky-Xerus":

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title Quirky-Xerus (sda#)
  kernel /Quirky-Xerus/vmlinuz install_specs=UUID=(find your UUID using blkid in terminal):ext4:Quirky-Xerus
  initrd /Quirky-Xerus/initrd.q  
Do this, and Quirky will boot right away "frugally" with a limited savefile ready to go (savefile will go straight into the folder you created for frugally booting quirky).

This is, since Precise 5.7, the most stable OS Barry has put out, imho. I am really liking it here. :)

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Quirky Xerus 8.1.94 for x86_64, released July 13, 2017

#422 Post by Billtoo »

The proprietary Nvidia driver installed without problems.
I like the icons but the background wasn't my cup of tea :)

# inxi -b
System: Host: puppypc32627 Kernel: 4.11.9 x86_64 (64 bit) Desktop: JWM git-976 Distro: Quirky 8.1.94 xerus64
Machine: System: ACER product: Aspire M5620 v: R01-A4 serial: PTS860X0348050CF642700
Mobo: ACER model: G33T-AM v: 1.0 serial: 00000000 Bios: American Megatrends v: R01-A4 date: 12/19/2007
CPU: Quad core Intel Core2 Quad Q6600 (-MCP-) speed/max: 1603/2403 MHz
Graphics: Card: NVIDIA GF108 [GeForce GT 430]
Display Server: X.org 1.18.4 driver: nvidia tty size: 145x30 Advanced Data: N/A for root
Network: Card: Intel 82566DC-2 Gigabit Network Connection driver: e1000e
Drives: HDD Total Size: 93.9GB (41.8% used)
Info: Processes: 155 Uptime: 16 min Memory: 173.2/7991.8MB Client: Shell (bash) inxi: 2.2.35
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#423 Post by musher0 »

@belham2
Thanks for the tip. It worked. Proof is attached!

It's well done, as always with BK, but "je reste sur ma faim", il leaves
me still hungry.

I understand that a lot has changed on the inside, but on the surface, it
feels to me as "same old, same old."

For one thing, I miss the capacity for a real "pupsave" or similar.

For another, it took so long to power off that I had to push the reset
button.

For a third, neither the mtpaint capture script nor the screeny script are
the best for what they are supposed to do.

For a fourth, a lot of icon space could be saved on the desktop if icons
were grouped in category sub-menus. One icon for LibreOffice instead of
four should be obvious. In the same line of thought, the mnt icon top left
first line is really superfluous, since we have a string of partition icons at
the bottom that do exactly the same thing.

I did appreciate the zram compaction though,

As the saying goes in classical contemporary music, every composer is
free to be at the same time consistent and inconsistent with his logical
premises. (For a source of that quote, try I. Stravinsky or Th. Adorno, I
can't remember ATM.)

Meaning: you can present Xine as the best multi-media app AND not offer
SFR's Take-a-Shot in the same distro! ;) It's a composer's -- or a
developer's -- prerogative!

As I mentioned before, I respect Mr. Kauler's work, he is a trail-blazer in
so many ways. But for the reason mentioned above, I'm not doing him
any salamaleks.

So, mixed feelings about this QuirkyXerus-8.1.94 on this side of the
Ottawa River, Mixed, but still respectful!

BFN.
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#424 Post by belham2 »

musher0 wrote:@belham2
Thanks for the tip. It worked. Proof is attached!

It's well done, as always with BK, but "je reste sur ma faim", il leaves
me still hungry.

I understand that a lot has changed on the inside, but on the surface, it
feels to me as "same old, same old."

For one thing, I miss the capacity for a real "pupsave" or similar.

For another, it took so long to power off that I had to push the reset
button.

For a third, neither the mtpaint capture script nor the screeny script are
the best for what they are supposed to do.

For a fourth, a lot of icon space could be saved on the desktop if icons
were grouped in category sub-menus. One icon for LibreOffice instead of
four should be obvious. In the same line of thought, the mnt icon top left
first line is really superfluous, since we have a string of partition icons at
the bottom that do exactly the same thing.

I did appreciate the zram compaction though,

As the saying goes in classical contemporary music, every composer is
free to be at the same time consistent and inconsistent with his logical
premises. (For a source of that quote, try I. Stravinsky or Th. Adorno, I
can't remember ATM.)

Meaning: you can present Xine as the best multi-media app AND not offer
SFR's Take-a-Shot in the same distro! ;) It's a composer's -- or a
developer's -- prerogative!

As I mentioned before, I respect Mr. Kauler's work, he is a trail-blazer in
so many ways. But for the reason mentioned above, I'm not doing him
any salamaleks.

So, mixed feelings about this QuirkyXerus-8.1.94 on this side of the
Ottawa River, Mixed, but still respectful!

BFN.

Hi Musher,

Glad you got it booted. I am not sure what your missing with the way the current savefile operation is setup? I've completely modded much stuff now, been pushing it past it limits, and the savefile function with a frugal install has still worked like a champ. Perhaps you'd be interested in rufwoof's thoughts & comments on this when he was first fleshing it out for Barry in earlier Quirkies. Quite interesting reading. But, alas, I guess to each his own and there must be something you're desperately missing.

As far as TAS, it was one of the first things I installed. :wink: Took all of 30 secs.

As far as the icons, I hear ya. But they take so little space, that I don't mind it at all. What is important was the little changes under-the-hood, so to speak, in this Quirky compared to the last few iterations (both Slacko and Xenial).

Oh well, ce la vie. Me thinks this Quirky edition is a "keeper".

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#425 Post by BarryK »

musher0 wrote:Hello, Mr. Kauler.

I was unsuccessful booting from a directory on sda1. Various infos follow.
IHTH.
A quick response, coz I have to head into town.

If you boot the live-CD, there are two icons on the desktop.

Click the "install" icon and you can install anywhere you want, including a frugal.

This is how I tested over last couple of days, it worked for me.
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