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Re: Quirky Xerus 8.3 for x86_64, released July 29, 2017

#676 Post by musher0 »

ETP wrote:@Rodney Byne:

It seems that you would like a modern self updating browser for 8.3
Here it is Waterfox64 (posting from it now with 8.3)

Direct download link for pet follows:

https://drive.google.com/uc?export=down ... UVaSlptbnc

It will automatically update to 54.0.1 :)
Plus a classic favourite track to test:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NH5wbYP5xkQ
"Waterfox" ??? Looks suspicious !!!
Keep your hands on the wheel where I can see them and
show me your driver's licence please. :lol:
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Waterfox

#677 Post by Rodney Byne »

To ETP (& musher0)

Thanks for the Waterfox link.
I am now at 54.0.1

Well now, we have a Firefox & a Waterfox.
Will there ever be an Airfox to complete
the three elements I wonder.

Re your classics link, I watched it but sorry that
particular group must have passed me by.
I'm getting on a bit, but the band that caught my
imagination then was The Police LP heard the first
time in 1973 while working in Indonesia
(Roxanne, Walking on the moon etc)
and of course Abba in the eighties.

Thanks again, best regards.

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Waterfox

#678 Post by ETP »

Hi Rodney Byne & musher0,

@ musher - I kid thee not, totally kosher. :lol:

But a funny thing did just happen. A high pitched beeping sound suddenly started
to emanate from my PC with ever increasing volume and urgency.

Taking it to be the motherboard sounder, I panicked thinking that the memory had failed
and held the power button down. :shock:

The PC shut down but the sound continued. :shock:

Only then did my eyes alight on the alarm clock sitting on a bookcase next to the PC.
Some fool of a house maid.... (O/K it was me!) must have accidently hit the on switch when dusting. :oops: :oops: :roll:
Panic over. :lol:

Waterfox with 8.3, press F11 to toggle into full screen then click on link:

https://drive.google.com/uc?export=view ... 242cEpnVVE
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ETP your 8.3 full screen

#679 Post by Rodney Byne »

Hi ETP,

Nice desktop,
why have so many 25 drive icons - are some separate partitions
on the same drive & for what purpose, what is qpm, how is that shelf
of shortcuts created?
There's so much about Linux I don't know.

Regards.

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Speed test for frugal to partition

#680 Post by FeodorF »

@Barry,

I have added 'date' to line 112 and line 157 to see how long it will take for the 2GB 2.6GHz 2x Intel Celeron board.
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grub won't boot?

#681 Post by scsijon »

Hm, come across a wierd problem. Could someone else check if it works ok for them please.

Booted up a box with nothing on the hard drive (mbr type) with the 8.3 iso cd.
Partitioned to two partitions as ext2 (for /) and 4gig (for swap).
Installed with the onscreen installer to the correct partition.
Installed through QPM grub-legacy, i've been using it just about forever and can script it in me sleep (I thought).
It said it installed correctly.
Went in and altered the menu.1st to suit.
Shutdown the box after removing the cd.
Powered up the box, expecting it to grub-up it's menu.
It didn't!
Rebooted with the iso and had a look.
The grub 'stuff' was all there in the correct places and checking the drive the partition was set to boot.
Tried with the grub-install command (grub-install -v --no-floppy --root-directory=/dev/sda1/boot/grub) to make sure it installs to the right drive and partition.
Same result.

Changed drives and tried it with a slacko iso and it all worked straight.

Blew the slacko drive clean and did it all again with the 8.3 iso with the same non-booting results again.
checked the /temp logs but nothing there to explain it.
?-?-????

Any ideas anyone please!

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EDIT: 9 aug 2017 sorted out this (we hope):
I had a message fest with a couple of WD's people for a while and this seems to be the resultant theory.
It seems that a drive that has been changed from origonally being set as mbr and used with a partition set as boot, then changed to gpt, stuffs up the first partition table when reset to mbr again. I think it's may also be stuffing up other parts too.

Anyway, even if gparted says it's ok again, it seems it's now using the second partition table as the first one and writing a new second one into the following blocks. And of course grub wants the real first table to setup in and work with. I killed a couple of 'superannuated 80gig drives' (smallest I still had) testing the concept as well as a 240gb and 1tb in the origonal problem.

I've been promised 'two' new drives for finding the problem.

They were very interested in it and apparently something will change in the firmware to stop it being able to happen. They knew about linux too, which was a nice change and had pleasant things to say about it as a lot of their in-house stuff uses it.

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Oh, and what about adding SFR's Uextract into Quirky, http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=87864, well worth it.
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Quirky Xerus 8.3 for x86_64, released July 29, 2017

#682 Post by Billtoo »

I booted the live DVD and installed to a 32gb SDHC card,computer is an Acer laptop.
# inxi -bw
System: Host: puppypc22230 Kernel: 4.11.12 x86_64 (64 bit) Desktop: JWM git-976
Distro: Quirky 8.3 xerus64
Machine: System: Acer (portable) product: Aspire 7740 v: Rev serial: LXPNX02012004098672000
Mobo: Acer model: Aspire 7740 v: Rev serial: LXPNX02012004098672000
Bios: Phoenix v: V1.15 date: 12/25/2009
CPU: Dual core Intel Core i5 M 430 (-HT-MCP-) speed/max: 1199/2267 MHz
Graphics: Card: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD/ATI] Park [Mobility Radeon HD 5430/5450/5470]
Display Server: X.org 1.18.4 drivers: ati,radeon (unloaded: fbdev,vesa)
tty size: 105x25 Advanced Data: N/A for root
Network: Card-1: Broadcom NetLink BCM57780 Gigabit Ethernet PCIe driver: tg3
Card-2: Qualcomm Atheros AR928X Wireless Network Adapter (PCI-Express) driver: ath9k
Drives: HDD Total Size: 532.0GB (1.3% used)
Weather: Conditions: 70 F (21 C) - Mostly Cloudy Time: July 31, 11:00 PM EDT
Info: Processes: 148 Uptime: 2:39 Memory: 144.9/3821.1MB Client: Shell (bash) inxi: 2.2.35
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video-info-glx 1.5.3 Mon 31 Jul 2017 on Quirky Xerus64 8.3 Linux 4.11.12 x86_64
0.0 VGA compatible controller: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] Park [Mobility Radeon HD 5430/5450/5470]
oem: ATI ATOMBIOS
product: PARK 01.00
X Server: Xorg Driver: radeon
X.Org version: 1.18.4
dimensions: 1600x900 pixels (423x238 millimeters)
depth of root window: 24 planes
direct rendering: Yes
server glx vendor string: SGI
server glx version string: 1.4
OpenGL vendor string: X.Org
OpenGL renderer string: Gallium 0.4 on AMD CEDAR (DRM 2.49.0 / 4.11.12, LLVM 3.8.0)
OpenGL core profile version string: 3.3 (Core Profile) Mesa 12.0.6

Intel(R) Core(TM) i5 CPU M 430 @ 2.27GHz
Core 0: @1199 1: @1199 2: @1199 3: @1199 MHz

I installed applications with QPM.

I have Quirky 8.3 installs on computers with Nvidia,Intel,and ATI graphics,
all are working well.

The SDHC card is a Sandisk, slower than the lexar but works okay.

# dd if=/dev/zero of=/dummyfile bs=1M count=1024 conv=fdatasync
1024+0 records in
1024+0 records out
1073741824 bytes (1.1 GB, 1.0 GiB) copied, 148.204 s, 7.2 MB/s
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#683 Post by musher0 »

Billtoo? You just outdid yourself. Beautiful!
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Re: ETP your 8.3 full screen

#684 Post by ETP »

Rodney Byne wrote:Hi ETP,

Nice desktop,
why have so many 25 drive icons - are some separate partitions
on the same drive & for what purpose, what is qpm, how is that shelf
of shortcuts created?
There's so much about Linux I don't know.

Regards.
Hi Rodney,
There are 2 SSDs in that PC sda & sdb. (Both with a GPT layout)

sda just has Win10 on it with it's standard 6 partition layout. So sda4 is the "C:" drive & sda6 the "D:" drive or data partition. That SSD is 120GB.

sdb is a 250GB SSD which just houses Linux systems. It is split up as follows:

sdb2 - a 10GB NTFS partition to transfer data between Linux & Win10

sdb3 - a 30GB ext4 partition with a full install of Manjaro.

sdb4 to sdb16 are all 10GB f2fs partitions containing Pups either as full installs or frugal installs.

(I prefer separate partitions to folders within a single partition as it simplifies backup & restore.)

sdc1/sdc2/sdc3 is a 32GB USB3 stick with a full install of 8.3 on it's third partition (sdc3) which is an f2fs partition.

sdd1 is a 4GB class10 vfat SD card which is used to select between and to boot all the Linux systems. All Linux kernels are held on that and it is permanently plugged in.

sde1 is a 32GB vfat USB2 nano stick housing my media repositry. It is permanently plugged into a rear port on the PC and
is automatically mounted by all Pups using it's UUID when possible.

QPM = Quirky Package Manager
PPM = Puppy Package Manager

The shelf is "wbar" available via QPM or PPM. (It is the Linux equivalent of "Rocket Dock" for Windows)
I hope that sheds some light on the 25 partitions and you are not sorry you asked. :)
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#685 Post by don570 »

I installed Xerus 8.3 on USB stick and it works well,
however I came across an old issue I mentioned before.

Rox filer has the 'Open With' feature --> list of apps that will open the file

The apps are located in SendTo folder
(see image)

The problem is that the wrong pmusic desktop file is linked.
The proper one will add the music file to the playlist and play the music.

Instead a radio station is added.

Perhaps upgrading pmusic from version 5.2.4 to current 5.4.1
will solve the problem

http://www.01micko.com/zigbert/pmusic/pmusic-5.4.1.pet

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International keyboards works erratically

#686 Post by ottod »

For a long time Quirky has been lacking latam keyboard so initially I have to do with es keyboard, which is close enough. Afterwards, I select latam keyboard from the advanced Xorg keyboard configuration and everything works ok.
Right now in Quirky 8.3, this procedure works erratically. Some times it does execute the requested configuration and some times it stays setup to some variant of english, I suppose us or en-gb. I have not been able to identify the successful sequence. When I finally get the latam keyboard to work, it does not survive a reboot.
I'm using Quirky Xerus 8.3, USB flash stick image.

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#687 Post by musher0 »

don570 wrote:I installed Xerus 8.3 on USB stick and it works well,
however I came across an old issue I mentioned before.

Rox filer has the 'Open With' feature --> list of apps that will open the file

The apps are located in SendTo folder
(see image)

The problem is that the wrong pmusic desktop file is linked.
The proper one will add the music file to the playlist and play the music.

Instead a radio station is added.

Perhaps upgrading pmusic from version 5.2.4 to current 5.4.1
will solve the problem

http://www.01micko.com/zigbert/pmusic/pmusic-5.4.1.pet

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Hi don 570.

Simple: remove the symlinks and don't use PMusic. It's the slowest of
music readers and the most complicated to understand. You won't suffer!
Use deadbeef or one of the about 99 other music players available on
Linux.

BFN.
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Running Quirky 8.3 on an Intel G31 board

#688 Post by FeodorF »

Running Quirky 8.3 on an old Intel G31 board from 2007-2008. I think this was the first Intel board with 64-bit graphic support (GMA 3100) by Linux.
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Intel graphics chipset

#689 Post by lp-dolittle »

Hi Barry,

meanwhile, I managed to figure out an awkward, provisional workaround for my keyboard-layout issue.
After booting from a xerus64-8.3.iso CD and a frugal installation on the HD of a Dell Vostro 1720 laptop (Nvidia Chipset), I copied the xerus64-8.3 folder (containing s_sfs, Q_ID, q.sfs, and s.sfs) to the HD of the Dell Latitude 6500 (Intel graphics chipset) which previously had proved to be resistant to the appropriate Swiss German keyboard-layout settings. Booting the latter also via the xerus64-8.3.iso CD resulted in the previously described partially wrong/right keyboard-layout, yet, this time, the XkbConfigManager 'worked' if I precisely proceeded as follows:

After booting, first, a restart of X seems to be required. Then the XkbConfigManager can be used to successfully set the Swiss German layout; I cannot say whether an apparently unavailing attempt at configuring the third level chooser had an effect or not, but now I have a workable keyboard-layout ...... that alas, despite being saved, again needs to be reconfigured after every restart of X or reboot!

By the way, as shown by the today post of ottod, other users also seem to have to cope with similar keyboard-layout issues. It would be interesting to know the graphics chipset of ottod's computer.

kind regards, and apologies for having misspelt your name in the preceding post!

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keyboard-layout issue

#690 Post by lp-dolittle »

Hi ottod,

we seem to share similar keyboard-layout issues. It would be interesting to know your computer's graphics chipset. Intel? You will understand the question when you have a look at my previous posts.

kind regards

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To ETP.

#691 Post by Rodney Byne »

Hi ETP,

Indeed, I am not sorry I asked and with my eager curiosity
it is the only way I can learn new things.
Thanks for all the explanations, incl wbar.

Without doubt that is a most impressive array of partitions
controlling your systems. It's a wonder you can keep
track of all that's going on.

For simplicity, I keep my distros on separate usb flash drives with small
identified tie-on tag labels, written in pencil so they can be re-used
when a new distro is being tested.
All stored in an ex-electric shaver zip wallet for convenience.
A very different arrangement from yours & antiquated but effective
to me.

My laptop still has Win7 installed but with the ethernet data path
to it disabled internally for virus intrusion safety. (sda1 & 2)

The web is surfed from its boot menu (as sdb), selecting whichever
flash drive takes my fancy. There is a wide choice available to me.

Best regards.

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My graphics chipset

#692 Post by ottod »

Hi lp-dolittle,
Thank you for reaching out to me. If there is more people having keyboard issues we together can find the solution. I love Quirky but this bug is not letting me use the latest 8.3. My graphics chipset is Intel HD 520 from i5-6200u CPU.

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Intel graphics chipset

#693 Post by lp-dolittle »

Hi ottod,

there are several indications that some computer's Intel graphics chipset is 'co-responsible' for the keyboard-layout issue which we experience, probably together with a not yet fixed bug in the XkbConfigManager? Therefore, it's not really a surprise to read your computer's hardware specifications.

If you have the opportunity to run quirky xerus64-8.3 on a machine equipped with a different graphics chipset (e.g. Nvidia), you perhaps/hopefully may be able to configure the keyboard-layout according to your need.

Maybe, my clumsy workaround, described in a yesterday post, could work also in your situation??

Moreover, Barry is aware of the problem, and I'm sure he soon will present a solution!

kind regards

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pmcputemp

#694 Post by Rodney Byne »

Hi,
I wonder if anyone using a flashing light usb stick
such as Emtec has noticed that rapid repeated
rhythmic flashing and stop gaps from boot,
can be stopped immediately by right clicking
the indicated temp icon to quit.
If these are writes to stick, don't like them.

Going back awhile to xerus 7.0.1, this effect described
never happened.

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#695 Post by Philh »

Doing a frugal install to a usb partition from a cd
The menu.lst hints for grub v1 says hd19,1 which should be hd0,1 on my drive

retrovol values not remembered on a frugal install
If I run
alsactl -f /etc/asound.state store
in a terminal then asound.state gets updated with the retrovol values
but running /usr/sbin/savesession doesnt seem to update the asound.state with the retrovol values so it gets saved with the old values in s.sfs
although youve added it #170723

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