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puppytahruser

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PostPosted: Mon 13 Mar 2017, 06:19    Post subject: re
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Is there any way to upgrade from previous xenialpup? Or just need to download the iso and install it again.
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PostPosted: Mon 13 Mar 2017, 07:17    Post subject:  

Install it again. If you have a previous adrv.sfs then it may work simply renaming it depending on what packages are inside.
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PostPosted: Mon 13 Mar 2017, 07:29    Post subject: re
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Thank you WD for your reply. I will try it.
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PostPosted: Mon 13 Mar 2017, 22:04    Post subject:  

Quick manual frugal.

Code:
oot# inxi -Fxx
System:    Host: puppypc7337 Kernel: 4.9.13 i686 (32 bit gcc: 5.4.0)
           Desktop: JWM 2.3.5 dm: N/A Distro: xenialpup 7.0.8.1
Machine:   Mobo: ASUSTeK model: M5A97 LE R2.0 v: Rev 1.xx serial: 150545593600028
           Bios: American Megatrends v: 2601 date: 03/24/2015
CPU:       Hexa core AMD FX-6300 Six-Core (-MCP-) cache: 12288 KB
           flags: (lm nx pae sse sse2 sse3 sse4_1 sse4_2 sse4a ssse3 svm) bmips: 42143
           clock speeds: min/max: 1400/3500 MHz 1: 1400 MHz 2: 2000 MHz
           3: 1400 MHz 4: 3000 MHz 5: 1400 MHz 6: 1400 MHz
Graphics:  Card: NVIDIA GT218 [GeForce 210] bus-ID: 01:00.0 chip-ID: 10de:0a65
           Display Server: X.org 1.18.4 drivers: nouveau (unloaded: fbdev,vesa)
           tty size: 83x29 Advanced Data: N/A for root
Audio:     Card-1 NVIDIA High Definition Audio Controller
           driver: snd_hda_intel bus-ID: 01:00.1 chip-ID: 10de:0be3
           Card-2 Advanced Micro Devices [AMD/ATI] SBx00 Azalia (Intel HDA)
           driver: snd_hda_intel bus-ID: 00:14.2 chip-ID: 1002:4383
           Sound: Advanced Linux Sound Architecture v: k4.9.13
Network:   Card: Realtek RTL8111/8168/8411 PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet Controller
           driver: r8169 v: 2.3LK-NAPI port: d000
           bus-ID: 02:00.0 chip-ID: 10ec:8168
           IF: eth0 state: up speed: 1000 Mbps duplex: full
           mac: 1c:87:2c:5a:bb:e2
Drives:    HDD Total Size: 1120.2GB (6.3% used)
           ID-1: /dev/sda model: KINGSTON_SV300S3 size: 120.0GB serial: N/A
           ID-2: /dev/sdb model: WDC_WD10EZEX size: 1000.2GB serial: N/A
Partition: ID-1: swap-1 size: 8.60GB used: 0.00GB (0%) fs: swap dev: /dev/sdb5
RAID:      System: supported: linear raid0 raid1 raid10 raid6 raid5 raid4
           No RAID devices: /proc/mdstat, md_mod kernel module present
           Unused Devices: none
Sensors:   None detected - is lm-sensors installed and configured?
Info:      Processes: 201 Uptime: 24 min Memory: 226.6/2946.3MB
           Init: SysVinit v: N/A runlevel: 5 Gcc sys: N/A
           Client: Shell (bash 4.3.291 running in urxvt) inxi: 2.2.35



Code:
root# free
             total       used       free     shared    buffers     cached
Mem:       3017036    1366176    1650860     318252     123080    1015348
-/+ buffers/cache:     227748    2789288
Swap:      8396796          0    8396796
root#
Xenialpup32.jpg
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PostPosted: Tue 14 Mar 2017, 20:50    Post subject:  

Very, Very new Asus G11CD Tower
Intel® Core™ i5 6400 Processor
NVIDIA® GeForce GTX970 4GB

Working OK using this:
Tahrpup64 6.0.5 with kernel 4.1.7
Pup-Sysinfo
Quote:
VIDEO CARD:

VGA controller: NVIDIA Corporation Device 13c2 (rev a1) (prog-if 00 [VGA controller])
Subsystem: ASUSTeK Computer Inc. Device 8664
Flags: bus master, fast device select, latency 0
Interrupt Request (IRQ): 135
Memory at de000000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=16M]
Memory at c0000000 (64-bit, prefetchable) [size=256M]
Memory at d0000000 (64-bit, prefetchable) [size=32M]
I/O ports at e000 [size=128]
Expansion ROM at df000000 [disabled] [size=512K]
--
Kernel Driver: nouveau
Memory Used: 1264.50 KB
Path: /lib/modules/4.1.7/kernel/drivers/gpu/drm/nouveau/nouveau.ko
Description: nVidia Riva/TNT/GeForce/Quadro/Tesla
Dependencies: drm, drm_kms_helper, ttm, mxm-wmi, hwmon, wmi, i2c-algo-bit
Used by: 2
--
Video Card OEM: NVIDIA
Card Vendor: NVIDIA Corporation
Product: GM204 Board Chip Rev
VESA BIOS Extensions: VESA 3.0 detected.
Memory: 16384kb


The problem
Boots to black screen.

Xenialpup 7.0.8.1
Xenialpup64 7.0.8.1
frugal on USB flash drive.

Both boot OK up until the point of starting X.
Display goes black and nothing else happens.

Tried to boot to noX
Would not do it.
Still the black screen.

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PostPosted: Thu 16 Mar 2017, 05:12    Post subject:  

xenialpup64-7.0.8.1-uefi.iso boots in qemu with UEFI option. A small issue: while the system is early loading, qemu displays a black screen with just this message "system hasn't inizialized video (yet)". Then after about 20 seconds, the normal boot console log starts showing until the system is fully booted to graphics.
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PostPosted: Thu 16 Mar 2017, 10:43    Post subject:  

bigpup wrote:
Very, Very new Asus G11CD Tower
Intel® Core™ i5 6400 Processor
NVIDIA® GeForce GTX970 4GB

Working OK using this:
Tahrpup64 6.0.5 with kernel 4.1.7
Pup-Sysinfo
Quote:
VIDEO CARD:

VGA controller: NVIDIA Corporation Device 13c2 (rev a1) (prog-if 00 [VGA controller])
Subsystem: ASUSTeK Computer Inc. Device 8664
Flags: bus master, fast device select, latency 0
Interrupt Request (IRQ): 135
Memory at de000000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=16M]
Memory at c0000000 (64-bit, prefetchable) [size=256M]
Memory at d0000000 (64-bit, prefetchable) [size=32M]
I/O ports at e000 [size=128]
Expansion ROM at df000000 [disabled] [size=512K]
--
Kernel Driver: nouveau
Memory Used: 1264.50 KB
Path: /lib/modules/4.1.7/kernel/drivers/gpu/drm/nouveau/nouveau.ko
Description: nVidia Riva/TNT/GeForce/Quadro/Tesla
Dependencies: drm, drm_kms_helper, ttm, mxm-wmi, hwmon, wmi, i2c-algo-bit
Used by: 2
--
Video Card OEM: NVIDIA
Card Vendor: NVIDIA Corporation
Product: GM204 Board Chip Rev
VESA BIOS Extensions: VESA 3.0 detected.
Memory: 16384kb


The problem
Boots to black screen.

Xenialpup 7.0.8.1
Xenialpup64 7.0.8.1
frugal on USB flash drive.

Both boot OK up until the point of starting X.
Display goes black and nothing else happens.

Tried to boot to noX
Would not do it.
Still the black screen.


hi bigpup,

it's probably missing firmware.
you could try grabbing the firmware.sfs from here http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=97276, renaming it to adrv_xenialpup_7.0.8.1.sfs and putting in the same place the main puppy.sfs & zdrv.sfs are.

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PostPosted: Thu 16 Mar 2017, 10:51    Post subject:  

step wrote:
xenialpup64-7.0.8.1-uefi.iso boots in qemu with UEFI option. A small issue: while the system is early loading, qemu displays a black screen with just this message "system hasn't inizialized video (yet)". Then after about 20 seconds, the normal boot console log starts showing until the system is fully booted to graphics.


hi step ,
have a look through /var/log/messages to see what happened during the boot process.

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PostPosted: Fri 17 Mar 2017, 02:47    Post subject:  

Quote:
hi bigpup,

it's probably missing firmware.
you could try grabbing the firmware.sfs from here http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=97276, renaming it to adrv_xenialpup_7.0.8.1.sfs and putting in the same place the main puppy.sfs & zdrv.sfs are.

This had no affect.
Xenialpup 7.0.8.1 frugal on usb flash.
Xenialpup64 7.0.8.1 frugal on USB flash.

The screen seems to go black about the time it is switching to using the nouveau driver.

I am posting this from Tahrpup 6.0.6 running on the same computer.
It boots with no problem.
Note:
That added firmware did help on Tahrpup 6.0.6 to get the wifi working on it.
Needed the rtl8821ae driver.


Got Xenialpup64 7.0.8.1 to boot using the Vesa driver.

Quote:
VIDEO REPORT: xenialpup64, version 7.0.8.1

Chip description:
VGA compatible controller: NVIDIA Corporation GM204 [GeForce GTX 970] (rev a1)

Requested by /etc/X11/xorg.conf:
Resolution (widthxheight, in pixels): 1024x768
Depth (bits, or planes): 24
Modules requested to be loaded: dbe
Drivers requested to be loaded: vesa

Probing Xorg startup log file (/var/log/Xorg.0.log):
Driver loaded (and currently in use): vesa
Loaded modules: dbe ddc fb glx int10 kbd mouse shadow vbe

Actual rendering on monitor:
Resolution: 1024x768 pixels (271x203 millimeters)
Depth: 24 planes

...the above also recorded in /tmp/report-video


More testing:
added nouveau.modeset=0 to the boot options.

Xenialpup 7.0.8.1
Xenialpup64 7.0.8.1

Both boot to desktop and seem to be working with the Nouveau driver.
Do not understand why this should be needed.

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PostPosted: Fri 17 Mar 2017, 15:11    Post subject:  

hi bigpup,

can you try booting with
Code:
nouveau.config=NvGrUseFW=1


and if that fails can you try this http://distro.ibiblio.org/puppylinux/pet_packages-xenial64/nvidia_firmware_7.0.8.1.sfs

renaming to adrv.......sfs as before

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PostPosted: Fri 17 Mar 2017, 18:40    Post subject:  

666philb wrote:
step wrote:
xenialpup64-7.0.8.1-uefi.iso boots in qemu with UEFI option. A small issue: while the system is early loading, qemu displays a black screen with just this message "system hasn't inizialized video (yet)". Then after about 20 seconds, the normal boot console log starts showing until the system is fully booted to graphics.


hi step ,
have a look through /var/log/messages to see what happened during the boot process.
Hi Phil, I did, and I couldn't find anything terribly suspicious. No blatant error messages for sure.
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PostPosted: Fri 17 Mar 2017, 20:15    Post subject:  

666philb wrote:
hi bigpup,

can you try booting with
Code:
nouveau.config=NvGrUseFW=1


and if that fails can you try this http://distro.ibiblio.org/puppylinux/pet_packages-xenial64/nvidia_firmware_7.0.8.1.sfs

renaming to adrv.......sfs as before

No affect.

Tried with just the boot option
Code:
nouveau.config=NvGrUseFW=1

Tried with just the firmware adrv sfs.
Tried using both.

Only thing that works is booting with added boot option:
Code:
nouveau.modeset=0


It boots OK in Tahrpup 6.0.5 or 6.0.6, with no added boot option.
Is Xenialpup using a different Nouveau driver?
Maybe could be that Idea
Or different Xorg Idea
Maybe a setting in the Kernel Idea

Are we having fun yet? Shocked Laughing

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PostPosted: Fri 17 Mar 2017, 20:39    Post subject:  

Also wondering why this is happening.
Changed the refresh rate in menu->Setup->Xorg Video Wizard->Screen Resolution (Xorg.conf) and it says it changed.

However I get this output in Pup-Sysinfo

Quote:
VIDEO REPORT: xenialpup, version 7.0.8.1

Chip description:
VGA compatible controller: NVIDIA Corporation GM204 [GeForce GTX 970] (rev a1)

Requested by /etc/X11/xorg.conf:
Resolution (widthxheight, in pixels): 1366x768
Modules requested to be loaded: dbe

Probing Xorg startup log file (/var/log/Xorg.0.log):
Driver loaded (and currently in use): nouveau
Loaded modules: dbe ddc fb fbdevhw glx int10 kbd mouse shadow vbe vesa

Actual rendering on monitor:
Resolution: 1024x768 pixels (271x203 millimeters)
Depth: 24 planes

...the above also recorded in /tmp/report-video

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PostPosted: Fri 17 Mar 2017, 21:30    Post subject:  

bigpup wrote:
Also wondering why this is happening.
Changed the refresh rate in menu->Setup->Xorg Video Wizard->Screen Resolution (Xorg.conf) and it says it changed.

However I get this output in Pup-Sysinfo

Quote:
VIDEO REPORT: xenialpup, version 7.0.8.1

Chip description:
VGA compatible controller: NVIDIA Corporation GM204 [GeForce GTX 970] (rev a1)

Requested by /etc/X11/xorg.conf:
Resolution (widthxheight, in pixels): 1366x768
Modules requested to be loaded: dbe

Probing Xorg startup log file (/var/log/Xorg.0.log):
Driver loaded (and currently in use): nouveau
Loaded modules: dbe ddc fb fbdevhw glx int10 kbd mouse shadow vbe vesa

Actual rendering on monitor:
Resolution: 1024x768 pixels (271x203 millimeters)
Depth: 24 planes

...the above also recorded in /tmp/report-video


hi bigpup.... can you try the 4.9.15 kernel here
http://distro.ibiblio.org/puppylinux/huge_kernels/

if you have a savefile/folder type into a terminal and follow the instructions
Code:
change_kernels


else grab the kernel from ibiblio, unzip & rename accordingly vmlinux...blaah..blaahh > vmlinuz
& kernel-modules...blah..blah > xenialpup-or-whatever.zdrvsfs

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PostPosted: Fri 17 Mar 2017, 23:28    Post subject:  

Thank you Phil. I install it by copying into my flashdisk. That's works.
But when I use YUMI, I can not boot it. How to make YUMI boot my Xenial 7.0.8.1?
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