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Bird Dog

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PostPosted: Sat 16 Sep 2017, 19:27    Post subject: Xenialpup CE  

Why does Peebee's LxXenialpup boot from the cd and install frugally to a hard drive and 666Philb's doesn't when it's based on 666Philb's Xenialpup?
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PostPosted: Sun 17 Sep 2017, 00:55    Post subject:  

Are you trying to use the Puppy Universal Installer to do the frugal install?
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n00b-pup

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PostPosted: Wed 20 Sep 2017, 17:13    Post subject:  

gyro wrote:
I managed to produce a "xenialpup-7.0.8.1-uefi-g.iso" that does boot in either uefi or non-uefi modes.
But it's 319MiB, so I'm reluctant to spend the time to upload it, unless someone really needs it.

Note: The original "xenialpup-7.0.8.1-uefi.iso" file is good as a source for installing, it just won't actually boot when burnt to a CD/DVD.

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That will be really appreciated. Currently I am running tahrpup no pae build from a USB drive (hard drive died a few years ago) on a Pentium M machine that doesn't support UEFI. Eagerly waiting for your ISO Very Happy
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PostPosted: Wed 20 Sep 2017, 17:47    Post subject: The "uefi.iso" will also boot on computers which use bios  

Hi n00b-pup,

No need to wait.

All Puppies will boot on "older" computers which don't use the UEFI boot mechanism. Those Puppies whose ISO names contain "uefi" have included the signatures that are required IF the computer has the UEFI mechanism. On computers without it, it will just be ignored.

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PostPosted: Thu 21 Sep 2017, 02:58    Post subject: pRecord must be included in all puppies.  

still on explaining how to install... madre de dios.. (damned !)
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PostPosted: Sun 24 Sep 2017, 02:25    Post subject:  Re: The "uefi.iso" will also boot on computers which use bios  

Thank you for the info Mikeslr, downloading the ISO right now. Can't "wait" for the download to finish Laughing
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watchdog

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PostPosted: Sun 24 Sep 2017, 02:37    Post subject:  

The current xenialpup-7.0.8.1-uefi.iso can't be burned to a cd because of an unresolved bug of syslinux. The iso file can only be used for a frugal install on hd or for being installed on usb.
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PostPosted: Sun 24 Sep 2017, 10:25    Post subject:  

snayak wrote:



It said:
Code:
Failed to load ldlinux.c32
Boot failed: press a key to retry



Hi,
I ran into the same problem. Luckily I was able fix this by partitioning my USB drive.

To solve the issue create two partition on your USB drive, one for booting your iso and one for your data/puppy-save file. First partition MUST be less than 2GB, you will be booting your puppy from this partition. Now make your USB drive bootable and you will be good to go.

I used unetbootin on windows to make bootable USB drive. Rufus and UUI deleted my newly created partitions I would suggest you to use unetbootin.
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PostPosted: Mon 25 Sep 2017, 10:43    Post subject:  

After many attempts I succeeded to build a remastered iso named xenialpup-7081-uefi-w.iso which I can burn and boot on my laptop. I installed syslinux from slackware 14.1 and copied to the iso isolinux.bin and vesamenu.c32 from slacko 6.3.2. I haven't a uefi machine to test the uefi boot but bios is ok. I share it.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B9iMb4UZBeFkNl84RWNzSVZQVUk/view?usp=sharing

Code:
root# md5sum /mnt/sda1/xenialpup-7081-uefi-w.iso
1d58d0abfb47cdf72ae35dd383cd6b0b  /mnt/sda1/xenialpup-7081-uefi-w.iso



EDIT: file iso has been reuploaded. I beg your pardon.
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PostPosted: Tue 03 Oct 2017, 11:19    Post subject:  

If anyone would like to help with ZestyPup - please send me a PM for a link to the .iso.....

There are 3 problems I need to solve before wider exposure....

- up-arrow key being interpreted as printscreen (keypad "8" with num-lock off is up-arrow)

- PPM uninstall has to be set to "Classic step by step" otherwise doesn't work

- (less important) windows buttons not maccish on 1st boot - change correctly if theme is changed to something else and then back to Zesty

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PostPosted: Tue 03 Oct 2017, 14:15    Post subject:  

peebee wrote:

- up-arrow key being interpreted as printscreen (keypad "8" with num-lock off is up-arrow)

If that's an openbox pup is because of the relevant code in /etc/xdg/openbox/rc.xml Is in all LxPups.
Comment out that block or change keybinding key to other that "0x6F" (check the code that a keyboard with print screen button emits)

peebee wrote:

- PPM uninstall has to be set to "Classic step by step" otherwise doesn't work

Uncomment line 3 of /usr/local/petget/removemodes.sh and see what to log has (check log before you OK the failed message window)

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PostPosted: Tue 03 Oct 2017, 14:31    Post subject:  

peebee wrote:
If anyone would like to help with ZestyPup - please send me a PM for a link to the .iso.....

There are 3 problems I need to solve before wider exposure....

- up-arrow key being interpreted as printscreen (keypad "8" with num-lock off is up-arrow)

- PPM uninstall has to be set to "Classic step by step" otherwise doesn't work

- (less important) windows buttons not maccish on 1st boot - change correctly if theme is changed to something else and then back to Zesty

Cheers
peebee



Peebee,

This is just not a problem in Xenial, but also in your LxPupSc. I posted about it (and fixed it) the other day. Keys are mapped to specifc locations, and you can do what marvothal says (which I tried and does work), or you can fix it a better way by assigning the keys (i.e. 0x6F) on the keyboard to their correct "execute" functions. Best of luck, Zesty sounds like it is going to be nice!
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PostPosted: Tue 03 Oct 2017, 15:00    Post subject:  

mavrothal wrote:
If that's an openbox pup is because of the relevant code

Sadly no - ZestyPup is a traditional JWM / Roxfiler pup so no openbox....

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PostPosted: Tue 03 Oct 2017, 16:16    Post subject:  

mavrothal wrote:
Uncomment line 3 of /usr/local/petget/removemodes.sh and see what to log has (check log before you OK the failed message window)

Thanks - that tells me what's wrong.....

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PostPosted: Tue 03 Oct 2017, 17:19    Post subject:  

peebee wrote:
mavrothal wrote:
If that's an openbox pup is because of the relevant code

Sadly no - ZestyPup is a traditional JWM / Roxfiler pup so no openbox....

Look at .jwmrc and .jwmrc-personal or sven key_config if installed.

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