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Thank you all

#646 Post by DuMar »

After 2 weeks adjusting and testing I switched toady from my much belovered Tahrpup to the new Xenialpup. Thanx @666philb for the developement and also thanx for all the people that helped him to make this all work.

I run Xenial from a USB stick an my 2007 Medion laptop and it runs fine just like Tahr did for some 4 years? I swiched from Claws to Sypheed because it' s in dutch. I had a pet for my mx370 Canon printer so hat went fine. I have Libre Office 6.0 as SFS.

I noticed one thing. When starting up Xenial it boots the Zdrv file too. My old tharpup didn' t. What is the difference?

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#647 Post by augras »

Hi,
Firefox57 from the quickpet works fine. But today I didn't take care and firefox have been update to 59.0.1 and no more sound on youtube and video in general.
I install again Firefox57 in a new folder and it's ok.
How to make work the 59 one ?
The problem is with apulse.
In the terminal :

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root# apulse /opt/firefox2/firefox

(firefox:3641): Gtk-WARNING **: Theme parsing error: gtk-widgets.css:716:13: Not using units is deprecated. Assuming 'px'.

(/opt/firefox2/firefox:3832): Gtk-WARNING **: Theme parsing error: gtk-widgets.css:716:13: Not using units is deprecated. Assuming 'px'.

(/opt/firefox2/firefox:3936): Gtk-WARNING **: Theme parsing error: gtk-widgets.css:716:13: Not using units is deprecated. Assuming 'px'.
[Parent 3641, Gecko_IOThread] WARNING: pipe error (95): Connection reset by peer: file /builds/worker/workspace/build/src/ipc/chromium/src/chrome/common/ipc_channel_posix.cc, line 353

(/opt/firefox2/firefox:4233): Gtk-WARNING **: Theme parsing error: gtk-widgets.css:716:13: Not using units is deprecated. Assuming 'px'.
ALSA lib confmisc.c:768:(parse_card) cannot find card '0'
ALSA lib conf.c:4292:(_snd_config_evaluate) function snd_func_card_driver returned error: Permission denied
ALSA lib confmisc.c:392:(snd_func_concat) error evaluating strings
ALSA lib conf.c:4292:(_snd_config_evaluate) function snd_func_concat returned error: Permission denied
ALSA lib confmisc.c:1251:(snd_func_refer) error evaluating name
ALSA lib conf.c:4292:(_snd_config_evaluate) function snd_func_refer returned error: Permission denied
ALSA lib conf.c:4771:(snd_config_expand) Evaluate error: Permission denied
ALSA lib pcm.c:2266:(snd_pcm_open_noupdate) Unknown PCM default
[apulse] [error] do_connect_pcm: can't open playback device "default". Error code -13 (Permission denied)
[apulse] [error] do_connect_pcm: can't open playback device "default". Error code -13 (Permission denied)
[apulse] [error] do_connect_pcm: failed to open ALSA device. Apulse does no resampling or format conversion, leaving that task to ALSA plugins. Ensure that selected device is capable of playing a particular sample format at a particular rate. They have to be supported by either hardware directly, or by "plug" and "dmix" ALSA plugins which will perform required conversions on CPU.
[apulse] [error] do_connect_pcm: failed to open ALSA device. Apulse does no resampling or format conversion, leaving that task to ALSA plugins. Ensure that selected device is capable of playing a particular sample format at a particular rate. They have to be supported by either hardware directly, or by "plug" and "dmix" ALSA plugins which will perform required conversions on CPU.
[apulse] [error] do_connect_pcm: additionally, the error code is -13, which means access was denied. That looks like access restriction in a sandbox. If the app you are running uses sandboxing techniques, make sure /dev/snd/ directory is added into the allowed list. Both reading and writing access to the files in that directory are required.
[apulse] [error] do_connect_pcm: additionally, the error code is -13, which means access was denied. That looks like access restriction in a sandbox. If the app you are running uses sandboxing techniques, make sure /dev/snd/ directory is added into the allowed list. Both reading and writing access to the files in that directory are required.
[Child 4233, MediaPlayback #3] WARNING: 9dec3820 OpenCubeb() failed to init cubeb: file /builds/worker/workspace/build/src/dom/media/AudioStream.cpp, line 387
[Child 4233, MediaPlayback #3] WARNING: Decoder=9e35c940 [OnMediaSinkAudioError]: file /builds/worker/workspace/build/src/dom/media/MediaDecoderStateMachine.cpp, line 3755
The command apulse /opt/firefox/firefox that runs firefox57 from quickpet is ok : no errors and the sound is ok.
If somebody understand what is wrong thanks for a solution.
Philippe

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#648 Post by bigpup »

I noticed one thing. When starting up Xenial it boots the Zdrv file too. My old tharpup didn' t. What is the difference?
How was Tahrpup installed?
Full or frugal?
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#649 Post by bigpup »

Firefox and sound.
What a piece of junk they have made Firefox.

Probably need to do this:
Just have the apulse 0.1.11 from here installed. Nothing else.
Make sure to use the correct bit version.
http://smokey01.com/OscarTalks/
Reboot after you install it to make sure it is saved and loaded at the correct place.

There is some newer info here:
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... 590#985590

Like I said, Firefox constantly changes what it needs.


You may also need this:

/root/.mozilla/firefox
Look for a directory that ends in .default

Put the user.js file in that directory.

Use Geany to make this user.js file.
This is what needs to be in it.
watchdog's code

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// for using apulse with latest firefox
user_pref("security.sandbox.content.write_path_whitelist", "/dev/snd/");
user_pref("security.sandbox.content.syscall_whitelist", "/dev/snd/");
user_pref("security.sandbox.content.read_path_whitelist", "/dev/snd/");
[/quote]

Build 58 requires user_pref("security.sandbox.content.syscall_whitelist", "/dev/snd/"); to be set to "16" now instead of /dev/snd/, so am currently using

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// for using apulse with latest firefox
user_pref("security.sandbox.content.write_path_whitelist", "/dev/snd/");
user_pref("security.sandbox.content.syscall_whitelist", "16");
user_pref("security.sandbox.content.read_path_whitelist", "/dev/snd/");
Ref: https://github.com/i-rinat/apulse/issues/65
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#650 Post by augras »

Hi,
Thanks a lot bigpup for your answer : it works fine.
As you said i took the apulse 0.1.11 .pet. I didn't install it and just put the lib in the firefox folder as said OscarTalks.
After in about:config i change the value 3 to 0 for sandbox.
Reboot and it's ok : in youtube, in 2 french TV replay that are not simple to work and in netflix. I think if it'is ok with netfliw itwill work every where.
Thanks again bigpup and OscarTalks.
And i hope the sound problems in firefox are finish : mozilla makes really bullshit with that.
Philippe

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Xenialpup on one of the biggest German news pages

#651 Post by MagicZaurus »

Just stumbled upon this. It's an article about Xenialpup to revive old PCs on one of the biggest German news sites.

http://www.spiegel.de/netzwelt/apps/lin ... 94437.html

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#652 Post by Steffan27 »

bigpup wrote:Firefox and sound.
What a piece of junk they have made Firefox.



Ref: https://github.com/i-rinat/apulse/issues/65
I have to admit it's no where near as good as it used to be. They wrecked it by bolting too much on. The old embedded videos were far better. it didn't even download unless you clicked on it. Now we're constantly bombarded by auto-playing adverts and sound. completely inefficient and useless... except for advertisers...

TO be honest i've clicked on less than 10 adverts in my life!

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#653 Post by bigpup »

If you have problems with get_libreoffice.
Newer version of get_libreoffice with a bug fix
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... 460#988460
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Saving session state

#654 Post by slaphead99 »

Hi all- I am loving xenial puppy but I have had one or two major disasters with state not being preserved after a reboot- I know it must be something I am doing wrong but, the thing is, I never had this problem with tahrpup.

Has anything changed in this regard between the distros?

Thanks again for a fabulous puppy.

april

#655 Post by april »

In all puppy distributions that I have used the state is preserved in the savefile.

What i think you are saying is the puppy boots back to the original setup so that means it is not finding your savefile for some reason or the savefile is not being saved on exit for some reason.

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#656 Post by slaphead99 »

april wrote:In all puppy distributions that I have used the state is preserved in the savefile.

What i think you are saying is the puppy boots back to the original setup so that means it is not finding your savefile for some reason or the savefile is not being saved on exit for some reason.
Yes exactly. The thing is - with tahrpup, once I had set it up, it dutifully saved the state after shutdown. without me doing anything explicitly and, as I say, I have had repeated disasters with xenial :( so I just was looking for any differences in this respect between the distros.

april

#657 Post by april »

Well I chose not to use tahpup. Didn't like it but I am very happy with xenialpup64.
so I just was looking for any differences in this respect between the distros.
I dont see why there would be and mine works fine


I'm guessing your initial setup is wrong or lacking in something . I would go back and reinstall it however you did it .
xenialpup64save.4fs is my save file and it gives me no problems . The suffix depends on your ext2 ext3 or ext4 choice .

Might I recommend ext4 as one I have had zero losses for two years since i started using it.

Your savefile can be examined by looking at your home directory and if its not loaded you can open and inspect it ,not that that will tell you much except if its not loaded then you can do a check on it for errors.

Did you do something unusual in the savefile naming choice ?

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#658 Post by bigpup »

slaphead99 wrote:
april wrote:In all puppy distributions that I have used the state is preserved in the savefile.

What i think you are saying is the puppy boots back to the original setup so that means it is not finding your savefile for some reason or the savefile is not being saved on exit for some reason.
Yes exactly. The thing is - with tahrpup, once I had set it up, it dutifully saved the state after shutdown. without me doing anything explicitly and, as I say, I have had repeated disasters with xenial :( so I just was looking for any differences in this respect between the distros.
How did you install it?
Frugal or full install?
What are you using for the boot loader?
If you could post the boot loader menu entry, that would help to eliminate one possible cause of problem.
Installed on what device and formated what format?

If frugal install.
When it boots and the boot process info statements are popping up. Does it say anything about the save?
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#659 Post by sancxjo »

Hi!
How to turn it into a wireless access point?
After Ubuntu 16.04 can work so.
I myself will not do it, anyone can help.

I watched this guide:https://pro-gram.ru/setting-access-poin ... _nat_pppoe
But I do not have a file etc/network/interfaces.

I had the packages: iw wireless-tools.
And I installed hostapd.
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#660 Post by rcrsn51 »

I tested this system in Xenialpup-32 and it worked.

You will need to install two packages - wlanmaker and libnl1.

1. Download them.
2. Remove the fake .gz extension from the name.
3. Click-install them.

Follow the instructions. For example:

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wlanmaker wlan0 sancxjo woof1234 eth0
What model WiFI adapter do you have?

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#661 Post by sancxjo »

rcrsn51 wrote:I tested this system in Xenialpup-32 and it worked.

You will need to install two packages - wlanmaker and libnl1.

1. Download them.
2. Remove the fake .gz extension from the name.
3. Click-install them.

Follow the instructions. For example:

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wlanmaker wlan0 sancxjo woof1234 eth0
What model WiFI adapter do you have?
Thank you.
I installed the packages.
I do not have an adapter. I want to buy exactly what it will work.
Judging from this
https://wireless.wiki.kernel.org/en/use ... tc/devices
must work adapter TL-WN722N . I think to take it.

In the team, apparently, I will have usb0, since the usb-modem.

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apt-get install iptables
gives an error message.
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#662 Post by rcrsn51 »

sancxjo wrote:In the team, apparently, I will have usb0, since the usb-modem.
Please explain. Are you getting internet into your computer through a usb modem? Is this working?

In that case, the command should be

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wlanmaker wlan0 sancxjo woof1234 usb0
But I have never tried this.

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apt-get install iptables
gives an error message.
Xenial already has iptables built-in.

Be aware that some Xenials are missing the drivers for Atheros devices. There are special instructions somewhere for fixing this.

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#663 Post by sancxjo »

Yes, I connect through the USB-modem.
I understood about iptables.
About the adapter you have to think about. The distance is very small enough for me, unnecessary exposure is not necessary.

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wlanmaker wlan0 sancxjo woof1234 usb0
wlan0     No such device
Naturally, there is no adapter right now.
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#664 Post by rcrsn51 »

For the TL-WN722N adapter, you may need this driver PET.

https://distro.ibiblio.org/puppylinux/p ... nial32.pet

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#665 Post by sancxjo »

And I also found a list of adapters for Ralink rt2800usb
https://wireless.wiki.kernel.org/en/use ... sb/devices
Do you need to install the TL-WN727N adapter?
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