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duckguy


Joined: 01 Nov 2015
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PostPosted: Wed 13 Sep 2017, 00:36    Post subject: menu.lst created with Grub4dos and modified
Subject description: I Do Not Have 'MENU.LST' Since I Do Not Boot 'GRUB4DOS'?
 

fredx181 wrote:
... 1.Create a Folder named XENIAL either on Usb-Stick (make it bootable ... 4.Apply Grub4dos to the Device you want to boot your Xenial Dog from .
5.Modify Grub4dos menu.lst as follow : ...
Hi,

I think I figured out why I do not have 'menu.lst' in my system. I am not booting from 'grub4dos'? Since 'menu.lst' is a subsidiarity of 'grub4dos'?

I think what I am booting from is called 'lilo'. I boot directly from the POST menu. So I do not run DOS. So, therefore 'grub4dos' will never work on my system? Doesn't 'grub4dos' require that DOS be running first? Or not?

In any case, I am not running DOS on this laptop. At all.

Thanks in advance, B'H.
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fredx181


Joined: 11 Dec 2013
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Location: holland

PostPosted: Wed 13 Sep 2017, 08:33    Post subject: Re: menu.lst created with Grub4dos and modified
Subject description: I Do Not Have 'MENU.LST' Since I Do Not Boot 'GRUB4DOS'?
 

duckguy wrote:
fredx181 wrote:
... 1.Create a Folder named XENIAL either on Usb-Stick (make it bootable ... 4.Apply Grub4dos to the Device you want to boot your Xenial Dog from .
5.Modify Grub4dos menu.lst as follow : ...
Hi,

I think I figured out why I do not have 'menu.lst' in my system. I am not booting from 'grub4dos'? Since 'menu.lst' is a subsidiarity of 'grub4dos'?

I think what I am booting from is called 'lilo'. I boot directly from the POST menu. So I do not run DOS. So, therefore 'grub4dos' will never work on my system? Doesn't 'grub4dos' require that DOS be running first? Or not?

In any case, I am not running DOS on this laptop. At all.

Thanks in advance, B'H.


Grub4dos does not require DOS and can be used on: ext2 ext3 ext4, NTFS and FAT32
Here's info from mikeslr and attached weeinst4Xenial to install grub4dos:
http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=950077#950077
(in fact for Xenialdog64, but can be used for xenialdog32 also)

Fred
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mikeslr


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PostPosted: Wed 13 Sep 2017, 11:06    Post subject:  

Hi duckguy,

The difficulty you've encountered is a consequence of the problem the creators had, not with the application, but what to name it. Grub4dos is not limited to only being used with dos. In fact, it is primarily used with Linux. But unlike other bootloaders for Linux, it can also be used with dos. So the name grub4dos probably seem a good way to distinguish it.

Similar problems: Wine -- which means "Wine is not an emulator". True, its an application layer but unless you're a techie, you won't care about that distinction.

Frugal install: Not a "cut-down", incomplete, minimized version of a "Full Install". Rather, a method of frugally utilizing your storage space, enabling you to run a Puppy from a folder/directory rather than requiring an entire partition; i.e., several Puppies can be placed on the same partition, or placed on a partition also holding Windows or a different Linux operating system. The alternate name "co-existent" install never caught on.

mikesLr
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Diogenes08

Joined: 18 Sep 2017
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PostPosted: Mon 18 Sep 2017, 17:20    Post subject: desktop harddrive icons  

I know this information is probably out there, and I am way late to the game. But it seems that whenever I try to change the gtk theme, the eject/mount icons in my desktop partition icons, disappear. I have removed lxappearance for this reason, and any other gtk switcher seems to have the same problem. Advice?
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fredx181


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PostPosted: Tue 19 Sep 2017, 08:57    Post subject: Re: desktop harddrive icons  

Diogenes08 wrote:
I know this information is probably out there, and I am way late to the game. But it seems that whenever I try to change the gtk theme, the eject/mount icons in my desktop partition icons, disappear. I have removed lxappearance for this reason, and any other gtk switcher seems to have the same problem. Advice?


Not sure if I understand well, you mean when changing icon theme ?
If so, yes indeed with some icon themes, the others are fine though.
You may want to install some other icon themes from synaptic.

Fred
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stretchystretch

Joined: 28 Sep 2017
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PostPosted: Mon 02 Oct 2017, 09:24    Post subject:  

In Porteus mode, is it normal that changes-ro boot parameter is completely ignored?
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fredx181


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PostPosted: Mon 02 Oct 2017, 12:17    Post subject:  

stretchystretch wrote:
In Porteus mode, is it normal that changes-ro boot parameter is completely ignored?


Yes, sorry, not all porteus cheat codes work, I have never tested changes-ro, btw, I wonder if it works in porteus distro itself (anyway can't find anything referring to it in the linuxrc init script).

Fred
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fredx181


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PostPosted: Tue 31 Oct 2017, 07:57    Post subject: BionicDog Preview (Ubuntu 18.04 Bionic Beaver development)
Subject description: Very Alpha
 

*** BionicDog Preview (Ubuntu 18.04 Bionic Beaver development) ***

Hi Everyone,

Very Alpha version because "Bionic Beaver" is in early development stage.
Also there is no custom 'BionicDog' repository yet.

I was curious if it's possible to make a 'Dog' out of it, e.g. which obstacles.
Couldn't make it work with startx, so Slim is installed (login manager)
Probably I'll open new thread for it next year when it reached stable state
So for those who already like to play with the "Beaver" Smile

Code:
root@live:~# cat /etc/issue
Ubuntu Bionic Beaver (development branch) \n \l


Login details:
root with password root (default automatic login)
puppy with password puppy

Specifications:
Built from an absolute minimal Ubuntu by using debootstrap.
Kernel: 4.13.0-16-generic
Choice of Boot Methods: porteus-boot and casper-boot , see options at the XenialDog Wiki
Default WM - OpenBox with lxpanel and pcmanfm providing the desktop
Default File Manager - pcmanfm with option to use rox.
Default Internet Browser - Firefox. (there is launcher for "apulse firefox", so audio works without pulseaudio installed)
Applications included: gnome-mplayer, abiword, pburn, pfind, gparted, synaptic, leafpad, quick-remaster, dogradio, peasymp3, frisbee, wex and more (but not as full featured as XenialDog)

Download (32 bit only):
ISO: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/s/nxy9gh99sttk7yp/BionicDog.iso Size: 303MB
Md5sum: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/s/envmndv4fbn5amm/BionicDog.md5

Fred
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ally


Joined: 19 May 2012
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Location: lincoln, uk

PostPosted: Tue 31 Oct 2017, 09:06    Post subject:  

mirrored here: http://archive.org/details/Puppy_Linux_BionicDog

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backi

Joined: 27 Feb 2011
Posts: 1341
Location: GERMANY

PostPosted: Tue 31 Oct 2017, 11:46    Post subject:  

Hi Fred !
Looking for a new challenge ?

Installed the "Beaver" frugally to a Usb-Stick porteus style with my preferred changes=EXIT:/ "No save during Session " option .
Except Frisbee did not find my Networks .......so i installed Wifibox-tazpanel instead ......now posting from Bionic Dog .

76 MiB ram usage idle.

Will further test and give Feedback .

Regards !

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belham2

Joined: 15 Aug 2016
Posts: 1304

PostPosted: Tue 31 Oct 2017, 13:10    Post subject: Re: BionicDog Preview (Ubuntu 18.04 Bionic Beaver development)
Subject description: Very Alpha
 

fredx181 wrote:
*** BionicDog Preview (Ubuntu 18.04 Bionic Beaver development) ***

Hi Everyone,

Very Alpha version because "Bionic Beaver" is in early development stage.
Also there is no custom 'BionicDog' repository yet.

I was curious if it's possible to make a 'Dog' out of it, e.g. which obstacles.
Couldn't make it work with startx, so Slim is installed (login manager)
Probably I'll open new thread for it next year when it reached stable state
So for those who already like to play with the "Beaver" Smile

Code:
root@live:~# cat /etc/issue
Ubuntu Bionic Beaver (development branch) \n \l


Login details:
root with password root (default automatic login)
puppy with password puppy

Specifications:
Built from an absolute minimal Ubuntu by using debootstrap.
Kernel: 4.13.0-16-generic
Choice of Boot Methods: porteus-boot and casper-boot , see options at the XenialDog Wiki
Default WM - OpenBox with lxpanel and pcmanfm providing the desktop
Default File Manager - pcmanfm with option to use rox.
Default Internet Browser - Firefox. (there is launcher for "apulse firefox", so audio works without pulseaudio installed)
Applications included: gnome-mplayer, abiword, pburn, pfind, gparted, synaptic, leafpad, quick-remaster, dogradio, peasymp3, frisbee, wex and more (but not as full featured as XenialDog)

Download (32 bit only):
ISO: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/s/nxy9gh99sttk7yp/BionicDog.iso Size: 303MB
Md5sum: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/s/envmndv4fbn5amm/BionicDog.md5

Fred



Kids, Uncle Fred didn't actually mean what you all are thinking here Embarassed
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fredx181


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PostPosted: Tue 31 Oct 2017, 14:19    Post subject:  

belham wrote:
Kids, Uncle Fred didn't actually mean what you all are thinking here Embarassed


Sorry for my ignorance, I really don't know what you mean, is it something terrible what I wrote (that you quoted in bold) ??
You advise me to change it ?

@backi Thanks for testing !!!

Fred

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PostPosted: Tue 31 Oct 2017, 14:26    Post subject:  

fredx181 wrote:
belham wrote:
Kids, Uncle Fred didn't actually mean what you all are thinking here Embarassed


Sorry for my ignorance, I really don't know what you mean, is it something terrible what I wrote (that you quoted in bold) ??
You advise me to change it ?

@backi Thanks for testing !!!

Fred


https://english.stackexchange.com/questions/18810/how-did-the-word-beaver-come-to-be-associated-with-vagina

IT doesn't bother me, but some others might take offense. Thankfully, since Jeminah left a few years ago, I think we've been devoid of the smarter side of our species on or in Murga-land. Wink
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Max Headroom


Joined: 28 Jun 2006
Posts: 325
Location: GodZone Kiwi

PostPosted: Tue 31 Oct 2017, 19:18    Post subject:  

G'day Backi or anybody eLse that knows, How( & Where ) to Adjust the Sensitivity of Desktop Switching in eNlightenment E17, when She moves the Mouse Cursor to the Edge of the Screen ( Typically when going to the Scroll baa ) it Jumps to the Next or Adjacent Desktop ( Me X Wife is Bitching & Nagging & Cursing!!!... ) Please

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backi

Joined: 27 Feb 2011
Posts: 1341
Location: GERMANY

PostPosted: Wed 01 Nov 2017, 04:05    Post subject:  

Hi Max !

Go Menu>Settings>Settings Panel>Input>Edge Bindings>Delete All>Apply

Regards !
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