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duckguy


Joined: 01 Nov 2015
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PostPosted: Wed 13 Sep 2017, 00:36    Post subject: menu.lst created with Grub4dos and modified
Subject description: I Do Not Have 'MENU.LST' Since I Do Not Boot 'GRUB4DOS'?
 

fredx181 wrote:
... 1.Create a Folder named XENIAL either on Usb-Stick (make it bootable ... 4.Apply Grub4dos to the Device you want to boot your Xenial Dog from .
5.Modify Grub4dos menu.lst as follow : ...
Hi,

I think I figured out why I do not have 'menu.lst' in my system. I am not booting from 'grub4dos'? Since 'menu.lst' is a subsidiarity of 'grub4dos'?

I think what I am booting from is called 'lilo'. I boot directly from the POST menu. So I do not run DOS. So, therefore 'grub4dos' will never work on my system? Doesn't 'grub4dos' require that DOS be running first? Or not?

In any case, I am not running DOS on this laptop. At all.

Thanks in advance, B'H.
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fredx181


Joined: 11 Dec 2013
Posts: 2514
Location: holland

PostPosted: Wed 13 Sep 2017, 08:33    Post subject: Re: menu.lst created with Grub4dos and modified
Subject description: I Do Not Have 'MENU.LST' Since I Do Not Boot 'GRUB4DOS'?
 

duckguy wrote:
fredx181 wrote:
... 1.Create a Folder named XENIAL either on Usb-Stick (make it bootable ... 4.Apply Grub4dos to the Device you want to boot your Xenial Dog from .
5.Modify Grub4dos menu.lst as follow : ...
Hi,

I think I figured out why I do not have 'menu.lst' in my system. I am not booting from 'grub4dos'? Since 'menu.lst' is a subsidiarity of 'grub4dos'?

I think what I am booting from is called 'lilo'. I boot directly from the POST menu. So I do not run DOS. So, therefore 'grub4dos' will never work on my system? Doesn't 'grub4dos' require that DOS be running first? Or not?

In any case, I am not running DOS on this laptop. At all.

Thanks in advance, B'H.


Grub4dos does not require DOS and can be used on: ext2 ext3 ext4, NTFS and FAT32
Here's info from mikeslr and attached weeinst4Xenial to install grub4dos:
http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=950077#950077
(in fact for Xenialdog64, but can be used for xenialdog32 also)

Fred
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mikeslr


Joined: 16 Jun 2008
Posts: 1926
Location: 500 seconds from Sol

PostPosted: Wed 13 Sep 2017, 11:06    Post subject:  

Hi duckguy,

The difficulty you've encountered is a consequence of the problem the creators had, not with the application, but what to name it. Grub4dos is not limited to only being used with dos. In fact, it is primarily used with Linux. But unlike other bootloaders for Linux, it can also be used with dos. So the name grub4dos probably seem a good way to distinguish it.

Similar problems: Wine -- which means "Wine is not an emulator". True, its an application layer but unless you're a techie, you won't care about that distinction.

Frugal install: Not a "cut-down", incomplete, minimized version of a "Full Install". Rather, a method of frugally utilizing your storage space, enabling you to run a Puppy from a folder/directory rather than requiring an entire partition; i.e., several Puppies can be placed on the same partition, or placed on a partition also holding Windows or a different Linux operating system. The alternate name "co-existent" install never caught on.

mikesLr
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Diogenes08

Joined: 18 Sep 2017
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PostPosted: Mon 18 Sep 2017, 17:20    Post subject: desktop harddrive icons  

I know this information is probably out there, and I am way late to the game. But it seems that whenever I try to change the gtk theme, the eject/mount icons in my desktop partition icons, disappear. I have removed lxappearance for this reason, and any other gtk switcher seems to have the same problem. Advice?
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fredx181


Joined: 11 Dec 2013
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Location: holland

PostPosted: Tue 19 Sep 2017, 08:57    Post subject: Re: desktop harddrive icons  

Diogenes08 wrote:
I know this information is probably out there, and I am way late to the game. But it seems that whenever I try to change the gtk theme, the eject/mount icons in my desktop partition icons, disappear. I have removed lxappearance for this reason, and any other gtk switcher seems to have the same problem. Advice?


Not sure if I understand well, you mean when changing icon theme ?
If so, yes indeed with some icon themes, the others are fine though.
You may want to install some other icon themes from synaptic.

Fred
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stretchystretch

Joined: 28 Sep 2017
Posts: 2

PostPosted: Mon 02 Oct 2017, 09:24    Post subject:  

In Porteus mode, is it normal that changes-ro boot parameter is completely ignored?
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fredx181


Joined: 11 Dec 2013
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PostPosted: Mon 02 Oct 2017, 12:17    Post subject:  

stretchystretch wrote:
In Porteus mode, is it normal that changes-ro boot parameter is completely ignored?


Yes, sorry, not all porteus cheat codes work, I have never tested changes-ro, btw, I wonder if it works in porteus distro itself (anyway can't find anything referring to it in the linuxrc init script).

Fred
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