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Making Puppy befriend Flatpak?
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Atle

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PostPosted: Fri 24 Jun 2016, 14:15    Post subject:  Making Puppy befriend Flatpak?  

http://flatpak.org/press/2016-06-21-flatpak-released.html
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PostPosted: Sat 25 Jun 2016, 03:09    Post subject: Re: Making Puppy befriend Flatpak?  

one thing im curious about: are these things based on containers?

cgmanager is dead and continues with lxc in devuan. other containers are managed with systemd (if youre not using systemd, you might need lxc at some point.)

for some reason i think containers are something you need 64-bit machines for. fine if this isnt the case.

if it is the case, do these "universal" packages work on 32-bit systems? for some reason, i think most copies of puppy installed or running are doing so 32-bit.

not saying that additional package support isnt an interesting idea, perhaps someone will implement that. i am curious about the requirements, and how much effort its worth if this is a 64-bit-only thing.

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PostPosted: Sat 25 Jun 2016, 05:14    Post subject:  

Assuming this flatpck thing is also for 32 bit, then I like the concept but with one big reservation:

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Flatpak apps are sandboxed. From within the sandbox, the only things the app can “see” are itself and a limited set of libraries and operating system interfaces. This effectively isolates apps from each other as well as from the host system and makes it much harder for applications to steal user data or exploit one another.


How is this going to affect things running as root and inter-program data sharing, the clipboard and permissions?

I like running as root, sure it has disadvantages but it's the Puppy way and that is why I chose it and not some other distro.
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PostPosted: Thu 30 Jun 2016, 04:31    Post subject:  

flatpak uses systemd, so it is a no-go for puppy.
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PostPosted: Thu 30 Jun 2016, 06:19    Post subject:  

systemd is not ok no...

good observation
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PostPosted: Thu 30 Jun 2016, 07:30    Post subject:  

amigo wrote:
flatpak uses systemd, so it is a no-go


i wonder if its possible to make flatpak use lxc for containers instead of systemd. the container functionality (which both these packages use) are tied to systemd anyway, though lxc is the modern (the maintained) alternative to systemd containers. this is something devuan will offer other distros-- but again, i think containers are 64-bit only.

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