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#196 Post by quirkian2new »

hello Mike and fellow google-chrome users,

I downloaded your google-chrome58 and made a sfs which contains all my favorite extensions,
adblockplus,and better-browser for chrome.

when doing a search on google, Better browser-for chrome automaticall display the next page when you reach
the bottom of a page. This saves the trouble of clicking on next page and make search more efficient.
when i want to go into details, i simple right click the item selected and let it open in a new tab. So
adblockplus,and better-browser for chrome combination makes search on google very efficient.

During the past 2 days, when i am browsing with this google-chrome58.sfs a box suddenly appear at the right upper corner
saying that this better browser-for chrome extension is automatically disabled. The box asked for my confirmation, but
it is just disabled no matter i confirm or not. And the extension CANNOT be re-activated again in any manner. I don't think this extension has any harm or malware. I have been using it quite a long time(since google-chrome29 on Fatdog630)

Is it a bad thing once again done by google ? The extension developer
has spent a lot of effort developing extensions, how can it be just disabled "unilaterally". Is the extension contain
a malware OR google-chrome contain malicious malware ? I am not a coder, i just want effifiency in my search.

Finally i think i am the only one to decide whether the extension should be disabled, not google nor google-chrome.

anyone has similar experience ?
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#197 Post by dancytron »

FWIW, when Google just doesn't like an extension (like ones that download youtube videos e.g. http://addoncrop.com/youtube_video_downloader/), they don't disable them. They just remove them from the Chrome Store. So, yours might really have malware.

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#198 Post by quirkian2new »

I reboot computer and started google-chrome.sfs again, this extension still there and still works.
I did another search, it still works. But when it reaches the end of page5 , the confirmation
box again appear at the upper right corner and again this extension is disabled and page6 is never
automatically displayed(see the captured screenshot).

Maybe this extension filtered google ads so that the google server dislike it ? Maybe...maybe...

I really dont know..........
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#199 Post by Mike Walsh »

dancytron wrote:FWIW, when Google just doesn't like an extension (like ones that download youtube videos e.g. http://addoncrop.com/youtube_video_downloader/), they don't disable them. They just remove them from the Chrome Store. So, yours might really have malware.
@ quirkian2new:-

Dan's absolutely right. Any extension/app you have installed from the Store that Google have decided they don't like just gets removed. End of story.

Because it's installed to Chrome (in the /root/.config/google-chrome directory), it will still continue to work locally. But the first you'll be aware of something not being quite right is usually when a warning pop-up appears (and things are not behaving themselves).

If you're a long-term Chrome user, like me, you'll be aware that at start-up, there's always a burst of network activity. This is Chrome 'phoning home' to the mother-ship, Google, and checking that your browser is performing within Google's 'accepted' parameters..!! :roll: All part of the Google 'Big Brother' we-know-better-than-you mentality.....which is supposedly for your own good.

(Do remember that the vast majority of Chrome users are running it under Windows.....and many Windows users don't have the faintest idea about safety & security, and how to implement it.)

This behaviour is not, of course, confined to Chrome alone. All of the Chromium-based browsers exhibit the exact same behaviour.....especially if you're using a Google a/c.


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#200 Post by Mike Walsh »

Evening, boys & girls.

Following a revelation earlier on today from belham2 on how he runs the newest version of Chrome as 'spot' (and with full sandboxing, too!), I am happy to be able to offer Google Chrome 62.0.3202.75.

This is why the delay since the last release from me. I've been trying all sorts of ways to tame Chrome 62, and get it to behave itself.....to no avail. Belham's method, however, works beautifully. (I have to make use of code developed by others, I'm afraid; my own coding skills are rudimentary at best...) :oops: :roll:

It's not perfect, I'm afraid. It still crashes when you try to upload/download anything (or maybe that's just my machine - I couldn't honestly say!).....but for general browsing, and listening to/watching streaming audio/video, it's fine. I think I know what needs doing to make it quit crashing, but I haven't had a lot of spare time recently.....so I thought I'd at least let y'all know the thread isn't dead.

Temporarily I'm using the Axel Download Accelerator, compiled from smokey01's instructions in the latest Puppy Newsletter, along with the GUI so kindly provided. Works great, too!

There's still life here!

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As before, the new libnss and associated dependencies live in their own folder within the /chrome directory, given preference over the system versions via LD_PRELOAD; this is to keep the new versions from interfering with apps that still require the older ones to function. Also, credit where it's due; once again, grateful thanks to battleshooter for his timely assistance with this.

NetFlix is working fine, and PepperFlash auto-updates as it has done for several releases now, so.....enjoy.

Any probs other than the upload/download issue, you know where to find me. I will get it sorted soon, promise.....but if you're not suffering from this particular hitch, feedback on that would also be appreciated, too.


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#201 Post by Mike Walsh »

Evening, all.

Now we're back in the swing of things..!

Currently testing the 'beta' of Chrome 63.0.3239.30. NetFlix fine; Pepper working A-OK. At present, everything looking very smooth. No issues to report.


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#202 Post by jake29 »

Thanks Mike, your continued support is appreciated. 62.0.3202.75 working well in FatDog64 out-of-the-box.

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#203 Post by Mike Walsh »

Hi, Jake.
jake29 wrote:Thanks Mike, your continued support is appreciated. 62.0.3202.75 working well in FatDog64 out-of-the-box.
Ah, I'm pleased to hear that. Does FatDog make use of 'spot'? Never having used it, it's not something I was aware of.....


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#204 Post by jake29 »

Mike Walsh wrote:Ah, I'm pleased to hear that. Does FatDog make use of 'spot'? Never having used it, it's not something I was aware of.....
Maybe someone else can correct me if I'm wrong, but /root/spot/ exists and appears to be used in FatDog. My understanding of this is limited.

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#205 Post by step »

jake29 wrote:
Mike Walsh wrote:Ah, I'm pleased to hear that. Does FatDog make use of 'spot'? Never having used it, it's not something I was aware of.....
Maybe someone else can correct me if I'm wrong, but /root/spot/ exists and appears to be used in FatDog. My understanding of this is limited.
Fatdog is true multi-user without sudo. The release system has one full user, root, and a "limited" user, spot, which is used to run Seamonkey by default. But you can run pretty much any process as spot by prefixing its command line with "run-as-spot". So I run Chromium-based browser Opera that way. It works well. For pepperflash support I have to specify the pepperflash.so path with --ppapi... and place the library file in spot's home folder with spot's ownership. Please note: don't hardwire /root/spot as spot's home. Instead read its location with ` ls -d ~spot` (bash) or `grep spot /etc/passwd|cut -d: -f6` (other shells).
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#206 Post by Mike Walsh »

Evening, all.

The current stable release of Chrome - 63.0.3239.84 - is now available from the usual location.

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Belham2's wrapper-script and 'run-as-spot' modifications are still running sweetly, as are battleshooter's 'self-contained' NSS/GTK3 libs. No real problems to report, aside from the afore-mentioned possible reluctance to download/upload without freezing-up/crashing. I still maintain this could be confined to my own machine, since I haven't had any reports of problems in this area, Please remember, boys & girls.....feedback is important, and helps me to keep producing Chrome for all Puppians.

'Silent-launch' is now included as standard.

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Changes for this release:-

https://chromereleases.googleblog.com/2 ... sktop.html

Quite a list this time. Those good ol' boys at Google keep on beavering away, unearthing and digging-up problems.....no doubt aided by the sizeable 'bug bounty' always on offer.

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Any problems, let me know, and I'll do what I can to help resolve 'em.

Have fun!


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#207 Post by ally »

hiya

I'm still running 57 on xenial64 7.5, I get a screen freeze when downloading from sourceforge or google drive but only when 2 or more download windows appear at the same time

this happens for example when bulk downloading from drive where the files are zipped and arrive simultaneously, if I'm quick enough to hit enter all well and good otherwise screen freeze, I then have to wait for the download(s) to finish then close the browser and restart

I've just downloaded 63, when I get a chance (bulk upload in progress) I'll give it spin

cheers

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#208 Post by Mike Walsh »

Morning, ally.

Mm. Well, I DID say this is what I need - feedback! - and 'twould seem it's not confined to my machine.

I've got a feeling I know what the cure for this is; it's something known as the 'glib-schemas'. Peebee's got it incorporated into the current Chromiums, but I still haven't figured out quite how to build it into Chrome yet. When I do get it sussed, it'll be incorporated into the Slimmie & Iron packages, too.

I'll get there eventually. I suspect you'll have the same trouble with 63 (for now), but, er.....let me know what happens, please.


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#209 Post by ally »

running 63 since yesterday, no issues so far but also no drive or sourceforge shenanigans

I do not like spot, very restrictive for me if I'm batching without being able to use wget

also dislike the inability to select file location shortcuts (the '+' to add sda3 etc.) when uploading files although it makes sense if you are expecting files to be in spot

how to set spot outside of pupsave?

appreciate all the effort

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#210 Post by ally »

chrome is not storing in-browser selections

for example, if I add my location to the weather page on bbc.co.uk/weather it is not remembered when visiting agsin

same for gumtree and a streaming site

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#211 Post by Mike Walsh »

ally wrote:I do not like spot, very restrictive for me if I'm batching without being able to use wget.
I'll let you into a few secrets, mate. I may have only been a Puppian for about 3 1/2 years, but I've been a Chrome user from day one. I downloaded that very first beta, pre-release evaluation spin of Chrome, in Autumn 2008.....and I've never looked back since.

Chrome has always had what's known as the 'developer mode'. Essentially, it frees the developers from having to run like 'normal' Linux distros do (as a 'user'), and allows them free rein to do what they want with the browser.

For a long time - till quite recently, in fact - that mechanism has been achieved in Linux by allowing the browser to run as root. Because of the unique way in which Pup runs, we've always taken full advantage of that 'loophole'.

Well.....no more, unfortunately.

During the last year, the WebExtensionsAPI (the same one that FireFox is now building the extensions eco-system around) has finally reached maturity. Google have been making no secret of the fact that they fully intended to implement it in Chrome so that the need to allow running as root could finally be done away with.

And that's what's happened at long last.

For the very first time in Pup's 'relationship' with Chrome, we no longer have a choice. We're not running Chrome (or the other Chromium-based browsers) as 'spot' because we want to.....or because we think it's better. (Which it isn't...)

Since Chrome 62, running as 'spot' in Puppy is, (quite literally), the only way to make Chrome run at all now. Big Brother (aka Google) has decided, in his wisdom, that Daddy knows what's best.....and naughty Puppians must finally 'toe the line'. Or else....

If things carry on like this, we shall eventually end up re-writing Puppy, via 'patch' after 'patch' after 'patch', into a carbon copy of every other distro out there.....and Pup will lose it's unique identity.

I'm not looking forward to that day, I tell you..! :shock:


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#212 Post by ally »

I fully understand it is a chrome's making apologies if it came across otherwise

:)

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#213 Post by Mike Walsh »

ally wrote:I fully understand it is a chrome's making apologies if it came across otherwise

:)
Nah, you're all right, mate. I thought it was as good a time as any to clarify the situation as of this moment in time.....seems like Google have been making major changes with every other release these last few months.

Just be patient with us; that's all I ask. Those of us who package the various incarnations of these browsers.....Oscar, peebee, myself, to name but three.....if we didn't share tricks & tips around between us I don't know where we'd be. Even PhilB (with his 'bbe' script for changing ownership permissions), and Iguleder (with 'libpuppygc.so') have indirectly helped out. Not forgetting the 'head honcho' himself, Micko, for pointing me toward the latter last year.

And, last (but by no means least) battleshooter, for his assistance on the self-contained NSS libs'n'stuff, and belham2 with his modifications to the wrapper scripts, and the 'new' method for running as 'spot'. Everybody's pulled together, and helped out.

Anyroad, I'm not gonna find fault with our archivist, now.....am I?? :roll: :lol:


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#214 Post by Mike Walsh »

Evening, boys'n'girls.

The current stable release of Chrome - 64.0.3282.119 - is now available from the usual location in post #1. Sorry for the slight delay; this has been out for a week, but I haven't had time till this evening.... :oops:

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Belham2's wrapper-script and 'run-as-spot' modifications are still running sweetly, as are battleshooter's 'self-contained' NSS/GTK3 libs. No real problems to report, aside from the afore-mentioned possible reluctance to download/upload without freezing-up/crashing. I still maintain this could be confined to my own machine, since I haven't had any reports of problems in this area, Please remember, boys & girls.....feedback is important, and helps me to keep producing Chrome for all Puppians.

'Silent-launch' is now included as standard.

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Changes for this release:-

https://chromereleases.googleblog.com/2 ... op_24.html

Google's devs/techs keep on coming up with ideas to improve your browsing experience. The new, up-and-coming one is 'lazy loading':-

https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/g ... y-loading/

.....which apparently, only loads items on the webpage as and when they actually come into view.....this is, of course, supposed to help with page-load times. We'll see!

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Any problems, let me know, as always, and we'll see if we can fix them..

Enjoy.


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#215 Post by mjmikulcik »

Thanks a lot for this.

One note, I found it difficult figuring out how to get the sfs to run because GTK3 wasn't installed and I hadn't symlinked libpcre.so.3 as the following thread suggests. I had to dig through the forum a lot to figure that out, so I recommend putting that somewhere conspicuous.

http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic. ... &start=165


I've done brief testing and I've found no problems with downloads, but crashes on uploads with error "Glib-gio-error **: setting schema org.gtk.Settings.FileChooser does not contain a key named startup mode" .
Otherwise, good work, thanks.


Edit:
I finally fixed my error by locating the proper org.gtk.Settings.FileChooser.gschema.xml file from this url.

https://github.com/GNOME/gtk/blob/maste ... schema.xml

Then I put it in /usr/share/glib-2.0/schemas and compiled it with glib-compile-schemas in terminal.

That made it work and it uploads okay now. I can't reproduce any upload/download errors on my Slacko64 6.3.2

Edit 2:
I can't get it to open any ntfs formatted partition to upload. I don't know why that is.
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