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Google Chrome 64-bit SFS packages
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Mike Walsh


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PostPosted: Sun 10 Dec 2017, 15:13    Post subject:  

ally wrote:
I do not like spot, very restrictive for me if I'm batching without being able to use wget.


I'll let you into a few secrets, mate. I may have only been a Puppian for about 3 1/2 years, but I've been a Chrome user from day one. I downloaded that very first beta, pre-release evaluation spin of Chrome, in Autumn 2008.....and I've never looked back since.

Chrome has always had what's known as the 'developer mode'. Essentially, it frees the developers from having to run like 'normal' Linux distros do (as a 'user'), and allows them free rein to do what they want with the browser.

For a long time - till quite recently, in fact - that mechanism has been achieved in Linux by allowing the browser to run as root. Because of the unique way in which Pup runs, we've always taken full advantage of that 'loophole'.

Well.....no more, unfortunately.

During the last year, the WebExtensionsAPI (the same one that FireFox is now building the extensions eco-system around) has finally reached maturity. Google have been making no secret of the fact that they fully intended to implement it in Chrome so that the need to allow running as root could finally be done away with.

And that's what's happened at long last.

For the very first time in Pup's 'relationship' with Chrome, we no longer have a choice. We're not running Chrome (or the other Chromium-based browsers) as 'spot' because we want to.....or because we think it's better. (Which it isn't...)

Since Chrome 62, running as 'spot' in Puppy is, (quite literally), the only way to make Chrome run at all now. Big Brother (aka Google) has decided, in his wisdom, that Daddy knows what's best.....and naughty Puppians must finally 'toe the line'. Or else....

If things carry on like this, we shall eventually end up re-writing Puppy, via 'patch' after 'patch' after 'patch', into a carbon copy of every other distro out there.....and Pup will lose it's unique identity.

I'm not looking forward to that day, I tell you..! Shocked


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ally


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PostPosted: Sun 10 Dec 2017, 16:25    Post subject:  

I fully understand it is a chrome's making apologies if it came across otherwise

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Mike Walsh


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PostPosted: Sun 10 Dec 2017, 18:17    Post subject:  

ally wrote:
I fully understand it is a chrome's making apologies if it came across otherwise

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Nah, you're all right, mate. I thought it was as good a time as any to clarify the situation as of this moment in time.....seems like Google have been making major changes with every other release these last few months.

Just be patient with us; that's all I ask. Those of us who package the various incarnations of these browsers.....Oscar, peebee, myself, to name but three.....if we didn't share tricks & tips around between us I don't know where we'd be. Even PhilB (with his 'bbe' script for changing ownership permissions), and Iguleder (with 'libpuppygc.so') have indirectly helped out. Not forgetting the 'head honcho' himself, Micko, for pointing me toward the latter last year.

And, last (but by no means least) belham2 with his modifications to the wrapper scripts, and the 'new' method for running as 'spot'. Everybody's pulled together, and helped out.

Anyroad, I'm not gonna find fault with our archivist, now.....am I?? Rolling Eyes Laughing


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PostPosted: Wed 31 Jan 2018, 15:50    Post subject:  

Evening, boys'n'girls.

The current stable release of Chrome - 64.0.3282.119 - is now available from the usual location in post #1. Sorry for the slight delay; this has been out for a week, but I haven't had time till this evening.... Embarassed

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Belham2's wrapper-script and 'run-as-spot' modifications are still running sweetly, as are battleshooter's 'self-contained' NSS/GTK3 libs. No real problems to report, aside from the afore-mentioned possible reluctance to download/upload without freezing-up/crashing. I still maintain this could be confined to my own machine, since I haven't had any reports of problems in this area, Please remember, boys & girls.....feedback is important, and helps me to keep producing Chrome for all Puppians.

'Silent-launch' is now included as standard.

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Changes for this release:-

https://chromereleases.googleblog.com/2018/01/stable-channel-update-for-desktop_24.html

Google's devs/techs keep on coming up with ideas to improve your browsing experience. The new, up-and-coming one is 'lazy loading':-

https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/google/google-chrome-to-feature-built-in-image-lazy-loading/

.....which apparently, only loads items on the webpage as and when they actually come into view.....this is, of course, supposed to help with page-load times. We'll see!

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Any problems, let me know, as always, and we'll see if we can fix them..

Enjoy.


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mjmikulcik

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PostPosted: Fri 02 Feb 2018, 23:20    Post subject:  

Thanks a lot for this.

One note, I found it difficult figuring out how to get the sfs to run because GTK3 wasn't installed and I hadn't symlinked libpcre.so.3 as the following thread suggests. I had to dig through the forum a lot to figure that out, so I recommend putting that somewhere conspicuous.

http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=107301&search_id=2107702706&start=165


I've done brief testing and I've found no problems with downloads, but crashes on uploads with error "Glib-gio-error **: setting schema org.gtk.Settings.FileChooser does not contain a key named startup mode" .
Otherwise, good work, thanks.


Edit:
I finally fixed my error by locating the proper org.gtk.Settings.FileChooser.gschema.xml file from this url.

https://github.com/GNOME/gtk/blob/master/gtk/org.gtk.Settings.FileChooser.gschema.xml

Then I put it in /usr/share/glib-2.0/schemas and compiled it with glib-compile-schemas in terminal.

That made it work and it uploads okay now. I can't reproduce any upload/download errors on my Slacko64 6.3.2

Edit 2:
I can't get it to open any ntfs formatted partition to upload. I don't know why that is.

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PostPosted: Sat 03 Feb 2018, 06:43    Post subject: reluctance to download/upload without freezing-up/crashing
Subject description: reluctance to download/upload without freezing-up/crashing
 

"reluctance to download/upload without freezing-up/crashing"

Hello Mike,

I can re-produce this crashing upon download/upload. I applied your NSS/GTK3 libs folder and running Waterfox56.0.3 on system without GTK3, the browser just kill itself whenever i try to upload/download files. So I think your NSS/GTK3 libs folder may be the cause of the crashing, but i am not sure as i am not a coder.

Hope this info. provide you some debugging hints.

Thanks again for your effort in packaging these browsers for the puppy community.
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