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bigpup


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PostPosted: Fri 17 Nov 2017, 06:56    Post subject:  

Xenialpup64 7.0.8.6

Quickpet testing

When the icon for Quickpet was first put on the desktop after installing the pet for Quickpet.
The Quickpet icon was over the bugfix icon.

From puppypin

Quote:
<?xml version="1.0"?>
<pinboard>
<backdrop style="Stretched">/usr/share/backgrounds/default.png</backdrop>
<icon x="32" y="512" label="quickpet">/usr/share/applications/quickpet.desktop</icon>
<icon x="32" y="512" label="bugfix">/usr/share/applications/bugfix.desktop</icon>
<icon x="96" y="320" label="play">/usr/local/bin/defaultmediaplayer</icon>

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PostPosted: Fri 17 Nov 2017, 07:29    Post subject:  

Xenialpup64 7.0.8.6

Quickpet testing

Used Quickpet>Drivers to download and install the Nvidia driver for my hardware.
Clicked on the Nvidia 380.
It downloaded the Nvidia 384.98 driver, which was the latest version recommended by Nvidia web site.
Downloaded, installed, rebooted, and loaded with no problems.
Very easy to do. Very Happy

Driver usage report:
Puppy is a little hog on graphics card resources.
Puppy is using 37MB of graphic memory.
My Geforce GTX 970 has 4GB of memory. Laughing Shocked Rolling Eyes Very Happy

What do you need 4GB of graphics memory for? Rolling Eyes
Oculus Rift VR!!!!!!
No Crying or Very sad It does not work on Puppy Crying or Very sad I wish Exclamation

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Lassar

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PostPosted: Sat 18 Nov 2017, 22:29    Post subject: Where does xenialpup64 store the alsa sound settings?  

Where does xenialpup64 store the alsa volume levels.

I am sure it's probably in the etc folder somewhere, but I can't find it.
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PostPosted: Sun 19 Nov 2017, 12:47    Post subject: Bug in Xenialpup64: ALSA audio not loud enought.  

At first I thought that the volume I was getting from my old computer was maxed out.

But then, I install audio mixer on kodi & set master and front to 100%.

Exited kodi, and went to alsa setup and test audio.

The sound was about 4 times louder.

So somewhere in Xenialpup64 is a bug, that sets the sound incorrectly.

It does it on both my intel computer as well as on my old amd computer.

These two computers have completely different audio hardware.
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PostPosted: Sun 19 Nov 2017, 14:34    Post subject: Re: Bug in Xenialpup64: ALSA audio not loud enought.  

Lassar wrote:
So somewhere in Xenialpup64 is a bug, that sets the sound incorrectly.

Some time back when I tried 7.0.8.5 I got a loud startling bleep type burst at startup. After that it seemed fine but as you say something amiss somewhere.
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p310don

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PostPosted: Tue 21 Nov 2017, 08:37    Post subject: Nvidia  

I have tried to get my nvidia card to work using the proprietary driver to no avail.

Doing what I've done in the past with Tahr, unload nouveau, reboot and run nvidia.run file builds the driver ok-ish, but upon restart my keyboard & mouse won't work.

I found that if I unplug and replug them in, they work. But that has to happen every reboot. Plus, I don't think the driver was actually working.

I tried the quickpet nvidia drivers. Both of which install, come up with "restart now to use nvidia" or something to that effect. Both boot to a xvesa screen with low res and no acceleration.

All of the above were tested using a fresh save file.
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PostPosted: Tue 21 Nov 2017, 08:37    Post subject: Nvidia  

I have tried to get my nvidia card to work using the proprietary driver to no avail.

Doing what I've done in the past with Tahr, unload nouveau, reboot and run nvidia.run file builds the driver ok-ish, but upon restart my keyboard & mouse won't work.

I found that if I unplug and replug them in, they work. But that has to happen every reboot. Plus, I don't think the driver was actually working.

I tried the quickpet nvidia drivers. Both of which install, come up with "restart now to use nvidia" or something to that effect. Both boot to a xvesa screen with low res and no acceleration.

All of the above were tested using a fresh save file.
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PostPosted: Tue 21 Nov 2017, 10:43    Post subject:  

p310don,

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builds the driver ok-ish

Is this saying the driver was made with no errors reported at the end of the build?

What is the Nvidia hardware?
What exact driver did you first try to install?
What driver does the Nvidia web site say is the correct driver for your hardware?
Did you uninstall it using PPM(Puppy package manager) before trying to install a different driver?
Also, each time you tried to install a different driver. Did you first uninstall any previously installed driver?

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PostPosted: Tue 21 Nov 2017, 23:05    Post subject:  

Bigpup wrote

Quote:
Is this saying the driver was made with no errors reported at the end of the build?


It spat out errors saying "cannot create symlink xxxx because the file already exists". It did about 10 of those. It seems that the driver builds ok, but doesn't install quite right.

Quote:
What is the Nvidia hardware?


GT210 - I think, not at home atm.

Quote:
What exact driver did you first try to install?


The recommended driver from nvidia's website - 340.1040

Quote:
Did you uninstall it using PPM(Puppy package manager) before trying to install a different driver? Also, each time you tried to install a different driver. Did you first uninstall any previously installed driver?


No. I used a pristine save file every time I tried either building or installing it.
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PostPosted: Wed 22 Nov 2017, 01:09    Post subject:  

Quote:
It spat out errors saying "cannot create symlink xxxx because the file already exists". It did about 10 of those. It seems that the driver builds ok, but doesn't install quite right.

If you get any errors at the end of the Nvidia run package build, it probably did not get built correctly.

You may already be doing it this way, but just to make sure.
Here is how I do it.
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=110611

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PostPosted: Wed 22 Nov 2017, 02:27    Post subject:  

Thanks Bigpup. The last line on your linked post about "do not save the x config" might be the clue. I'll try it again when I get home and see how it goes.
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PostPosted: Wed 22 Nov 2017, 07:03    Post subject:  

p310don:
1. Assuming you run the latest 7.0.8.6 xenial64 (64-bit) pup.
2. Assuming you start from a fresh savefile (or pfix=ram).

__________

0. Download NVIDIA-xxx tarball (I used 340.104 as per your example).
1. Load devx and kernel sources using sfs_load.
2. mkdir to Linux partition (or /tmp, if it ls large enough (you need at least 512MB free).
3. cd to that dir
4. Extract: "sh /path/to/where/you/downloaded/NVIDIA-*.run -x"
5. cd NVIDIA-*
6. ./nvidia-installer -a --ui=none --no-x-check --no-nouveau-check --compat32-libdir=lib32 -k 4.9.58
7, When it asks you whether to install 32-bit library, please respond with "no" (unless you really need it).
8. When it ask you to update x-config, say "no"
9. Manually disable nouveau (echo "blacklist nouveau" > /etc/modprobe.d/nouveau.conf
10. Exit to prompt
11. Run xorgwizard. Choose "set video driver". Set it to "nvidia".
12. Reboot
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13. If you need that 32-bit library (for use with wine or whatever), edit /etc/ld.so.conf and append a new line at the end:
"/usr/lib32"
Then save the file, and run "ldconfig".

Good luck.

EDIT: Better, fully tested on real hardware step-by-step guide on the next few posts after this: here.

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PostPosted: Wed 22 Nov 2017, 08:40    Post subject:  

Followed bigpup's method. Everything went without a hitch, seemingly.

Xenial boots to a full screen, the nvidia x-server control centre works, BUT, running WINE, the game plays like molasses, so no acceleration. Tried to play a video, but now mpv doesn't start. Mpv in terminal gives me:

Quote:
root# mpv
mpv: error while loading shared libraries: libGL.so.1: wrong ELF class: ELFCLASS32
root#


so that's buggered up too.

James. I'll have to try your method, tomorrow after work.
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PostPosted: Wed 22 Nov 2017, 09:52    Post subject:  

Are you using the 32bit version of the NVIDIA package?
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PostPosted: Wed 22 Nov 2017, 11:37    Post subject:  

If the game is using OpenGL
nvidia x-server settings>OpenGL settings
Uncheck sync to vblank

OpenGl runs much faster not sync to vblank.
Big, big difference in FPS

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