How to use dialup modem? (Solved)
zippy, I feel compelled to remind you that this forum is a place where you are asking for help.
Sending very rude PMs to members here will not get you that.
I won't post what you wrote -- it's a PM, it's not meant for that -- but I will say that continuing to be rude to me -- or being rude to anyone else -- has an approximately 100% chance of getting you reported to our resident moderator, with a recommendation to move you along to somewhere more suitable to your temperament.
If you can't be nice to people, you probably shouldn't be here...
Sending very rude PMs to members here will not get you that.
I won't post what you wrote -- it's a PM, it's not meant for that -- but I will say that continuing to be rude to me -- or being rude to anyone else -- has an approximately 100% chance of getting you reported to our resident moderator, with a recommendation to move you along to somewhere more suitable to your temperament.
If you can't be nice to people, you probably shouldn't be here...
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zippy, it's not necessary in many/most instances to send personal messages to us. Your PM's of thanks to me are not necessary, and don't advance the forum's informational content.
I think that what starhawk has been trying to say, albeit a little undiplomatically, is that you could consider not limiting your internet connectivity options to landline dialup.
Even if you DO wish to stick with dialup, rerwin has suggested that there are more Linux-friendly modems available than Dell/Intel internal models. My personal choice would be the USRobotics 56K V.92 Message Modem - an external full hardware-modem which plugs into a serial port.
Notwithstanding, I will offer some suggestions/solutions based on your existing hardware.
And I see now that Wary's extensive modem support DOES NOT extend to these Intel 536/537 drivers, which certainly explains why Wary does not detect your modem.
the most recent Puppy versions with the 536/537 drivers available appear to be
- Puppy 4.3.1 (the "SCSI-Intel-modems" version)
- LupuSuper2-5.2.8.7
- Precise-5.7.1-retro
But I just checked now, and it appears to me that LupuSuper and Precise-retro do contain the 536/537 utilities, but NOT the actual drivers.
rerwin, can you please clarify? Do the drivers need to be downloaded separately?
zippy, if you're keen to proceed without waiting for rerwin to reply, you can certainly go ahead and try Puppy 4.3.1 - it definitely contains the 537 driver. You must use this version -
http://distro.ibiblio.org/puppylinux/pu ... modems.iso
Once booted to this CD, go to -
Menu > Network > PupDial modem dialup
I think that what starhawk has been trying to say, albeit a little undiplomatically, is that you could consider not limiting your internet connectivity options to landline dialup.
Even if you DO wish to stick with dialup, rerwin has suggested that there are more Linux-friendly modems available than Dell/Intel internal models. My personal choice would be the USRobotics 56K V.92 Message Modem - an external full hardware-modem which plugs into a serial port.
Notwithstanding, I will offer some suggestions/solutions based on your existing hardware.
I'm guessing what you really have is Intel 537, and the following assumes this to be the case; some years ago Intel provided proprietary driver source code for the 536 & 537 modems, but it's difficult to compile these drivers against modern Linux kernels.zippy12 wrote:My Intel modem is a 573
And I see now that Wary's extensive modem support DOES NOT extend to these Intel 536/537 drivers, which certainly explains why Wary does not detect your modem.
rerwin's last post is your best option, let me recap;zippy12 wrote:Any suggestions would be appreciated.
the most recent Puppy versions with the 536/537 drivers available appear to be
- Puppy 4.3.1 (the "SCSI-Intel-modems" version)
- LupuSuper2-5.2.8.7
- Precise-5.7.1-retro
But I just checked now, and it appears to me that LupuSuper and Precise-retro do contain the 536/537 utilities, but NOT the actual drivers.
rerwin, can you please clarify? Do the drivers need to be downloaded separately?
zippy, if you're keen to proceed without waiting for rerwin to reply, you can certainly go ahead and try Puppy 4.3.1 - it definitely contains the 537 driver. You must use this version -
http://distro.ibiblio.org/puppylinux/pu ... modems.iso
Once booted to this CD, go to -
Menu > Network > PupDial modem dialup
Modem
I discovered that I misread my Intel PCI modem as being a 573 , but its actually a 537.
Nonetheless , I found a USB modem in my parts that I've had for YEARS , hooked it up , booted Wary Puppy and was on the internet at a good speed , in just a few minutes..
Thanks for all the good suggestions.
I might go back to Ubuntu though.
Nonetheless , I found a USB modem in my parts that I've had for YEARS , hooked it up , booted Wary Puppy and was on the internet at a good speed , in just a few minutes..
Thanks for all the good suggestions.
I might go back to Ubuntu though.
I asked two questions, and I would like to think I was rather polite in each case.tempestuous wrote:albeit a little undiplomatically
The first response was oddly indignant. The second response was no-holds-barred rude and was followed by The Silent Treatment.
I don't think I'm the one being "undiplomatic" here, and I have to say, I resent that comment a little bit. Yes, I have Asperger's Syndrome, which is at root a communicative disorder. No, I don't talk about it much. I'm not proud of it. I don't wear it like a crutch, it's not made for that. Yes, it does disorder my communications so that I'm not well understood sometimes. This is especially true when the medium is text-based. There is so much more to communication than simple words.
But I do have my full wits about me, and I know when I'm being snubbed.
zippy is the one who is being immature, not me, and I rather think we all know it -- whether or not we say so "out loud".
So: zippy, I put to you a challenge. Respond, in a mature way, to my remaining question: what is it, to you, that is preferable about dialup?
Zippy, don't be so touchy.
In case you don't already know, there are two ways to make a dialup modem:
In case you don't already know, there are two ways to make a dialup modem:
- 1. The hardware modem, which is purpose-built and can do nothing else.
2. The software modem, aka winmodem, which, as far as I can figure it, is a program that generates all the required waveforms and feeds them tthrouh a fairly high-powered audio amplifier, the output of which is connected to the phone line.
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I have Asperger's Syndrome as well so I can understand what you're saying.starhawk wrote:I don't think I'm the one being "undiplomatic" here, and I have to say, I resent that comment a little bit. Yes, I have Asperger's Syndrome, which is at root a communicative disorder. No, I don't talk about it much. I'm not proud of it. I don't wear it like a crutch, it's not made for that. Yes, it does disorder my communications so that I'm not well understood sometimes. This is especially true when the medium is text-based. There is so much more to communication than simple words.
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I have to say, at least to me, you don't come off sounding like that -- a little headstrong and a lot opinionated... but I'm actually somewhat surprised to hear that you're also an "Aspy" (as a friend of mine in college, who worked with us folks, used to call us).
Nevertheless... my sympathies to you, sir. It sure as heck doesn't make life easier, I can say that...
Nevertheless... my sympathies to you, sir. It sure as heck doesn't make life easier, I can say that...
Dial Up is not always an option, it is a circumstance.
I live in a small town surrounded by rural areas. Some of those rural areas are either Dial Up only, if one shells out for a hard line. Some of the rural area has the option of DSL from the local phone Co-op (a special monopoly granted because no carrier would invest in this area) Some of this DSL does not work very well, and also is really expensive for someone on limited income.
I also know from my experience, as a Social Security recipient, I used to live in a city which had broadband. I could get a hard line at a limited cost, and felt the cost of broadband internet was too much. Likewise my TV was limited to three channels on antenna, as cable TV was too much. I can recall trekking over every month to pay twelve dollars to keep my Dial Up internet working.
Yes, it is all right to ask why ones internet limited to Dial Up. What is the circumstance, just as a carrying on conversation. That being perhaps a means to advise someone how much better high speed Internet is, and how much more satisfying it is. Plus how they might be able to use high speed (McDonalds, public library)
It is like my brother told me when I was on Dial Up and asked why he paid so much more for high speed, "Once I experienced the difference, I will never go back to Dial Up. It also keeps the phone line open."
I also know from my experience, as a Social Security recipient, I used to live in a city which had broadband. I could get a hard line at a limited cost, and felt the cost of broadband internet was too much. Likewise my TV was limited to three channels on antenna, as cable TV was too much. I can recall trekking over every month to pay twelve dollars to keep my Dial Up internet working.
Yes, it is all right to ask why ones internet limited to Dial Up. What is the circumstance, just as a carrying on conversation. That being perhaps a means to advise someone how much better high speed Internet is, and how much more satisfying it is. Plus how they might be able to use high speed (McDonalds, public library)
It is like my brother told me when I was on Dial Up and asked why he paid so much more for high speed, "Once I experienced the difference, I will never go back to Dial Up. It also keeps the phone line open."
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Yes, as I surmised in my previous post.purple379 wrote:I misread my Intel PCI modem as being a 573 , but its actually a 537.
Great news. Yes, this illustrates what rerwin and I were suggesting; sure, you can jump through technical hoops to get a non-Linux-friendly device working, but often it's more practical just to swap to a different hardware device.purple379 wrote:I found a USB modem in my parts that I've had for YEARS , hooked it up , booted Wary Puppy and was on the internet at a good speed , in just a few minutes.
Better news
Yes , issue solved...........thanks for useful replies.
I don't use internet very much ( I have other interests ), so why throw away money on high speed connection I don't need?.............I prefer to make more sound investments.
I don't use internet very much ( I have other interests ), so why throw away money on high speed connection I don't need?.............I prefer to make more sound investments.
Speed with dial up
One last thing. I know with Windows, that if one has a broadband card, and one is not using it. It is best to disable the card in Windows, turn off auto hardware discovery at start up to prevent Windows from re installing the driver for the broadband, as Windows will constantly try to process the errors from the card, waiting for it come online. Killing overall computer response for every thing else.
A better choice is one is devoted to dial up, is to simply remove the card. I do not know how Linux deals with an un-used broadband card, or how to turn off the linux driver to such a card. I know my current MOBO has two NIC connections on the MOBO, which I can not remove.
There are always additional wrinkles to make things work faster.
A better choice is one is devoted to dial up, is to simply remove the card. I do not know how Linux deals with an un-used broadband card, or how to turn off the linux driver to such a card. I know my current MOBO has two NIC connections on the MOBO, which I can not remove.
There are always additional wrinkles to make things work faster.