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drunkjedi


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PostPosted: Thu 21 Jul 2016, 21:23    Post subject:  

No worries musher,

I suspected problem should be from source site.
I was not checking Sydney though, but cities from India.
Didn't test much too, only 5 tries each on PC and mobile
I will try today later.
What surprised me was mobile browser was showing consistently and PC never showed even once.
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PostPosted: Thu 21 Jul 2016, 22:55    Post subject: Some Pups missing libtinfo
Subject description: Slacko fixed with Tahr lib
 

G'day/jour musher0,

I have been trying the less & weather pets in some Full Pups.

Tahrs 5.8.4 and 6.0.2 were fine apart from the already mentioned first-click terminal error/warning message.

Wheezy (one by pemasu) and SnowPup-016 (also one of his) - nothing when trying the report but when I tried running less in a terminal, I got a missing lib message for libtinfo.so.5

Slackos 5.9.3 and 6.30 both got to the desktop weather icon and then location selector but clicking for the report, only a brief flicker of a millisecond report.

I then copied the libtinfo.so.5 from a Tahr (it was in its /lib) to my general Library archive and then copied from my archive to /usr/lib in slacko-6.3.0 and now slacko-6.30 displays the report Very Happy - but still with the terminal error/warning requiring the <Enter> press.

So maybe non-Ubuntu-derived Pups need this missing libtinfo.so.5 for less to do its "magic"?

A minor nuisance that, in slacko, when the weather desktop icon was created, I lost my pwidgets. A Pwidgets re-run recovered the widgets without losing the weather icon.
The weather icon appears where I have my widgets (right-hand side of the display) so I'd like to have the weather icon first appear more centrally on the desktop - is there some way to re-position the first appearance of this icon to mid-screen?

I'll further check the missing library in the non-Ubuntu Pups and let you know if this is a general fix for the missing report problem in them.

Nice sunny winter's day here, but may not reach the 25C 'hottest July day for x years' forecast. But 23C is OK by me and the garden - huskies may disagree, of course.

David S.
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PostPosted: Fri 22 Jul 2016, 00:08    Post subject:  

Hi David.

Very good report thanks. I had forgotten about the libtinfo dependency and the varying
needs of "the breeds". My apologies.

It's simple as pie to put the icon back in the middle of the screen upon installation.
Will do in next edition.

We had 35 C today if we add the Humidex factor. No huskies outside here either. Wink
They took refuge where there is some Air Conditioning!

BFN.

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PostPosted: Fri 22 Jul 2016, 00:47    Post subject:  

davids45 wrote:
G'jour/day musher0,

Success Very Happy !
Renaming the less file to change the "%2B" expression to a "+" and then installing that has given me the weather in the Unicorn Frugal Pup I'm using at the moment.
I'll attempt an sfs combining the two pets so all my Frugals can share this package at boot-up.

A couple of comments (minor bugs?).
Each start-up of the report has a error message about a not-fully functioning terminal (see screenshot). Pressing return and the report then displays. This may be just this Unicorn Pup - I'll see with some more Pups but I thought I should mention it just in case it's not.

The second screenshot is the full weather display following pressing <Enter> after the error message.
I notice the wind direction 'icon' is being truncated by the next piece of text (the wind speed) - if you look closely at the third screen shot I hope you see the arrowhead for the north-easterly wind/breeze is being chopped; an easterly is cut to just a dash.

Thanks for your help.

David S.

[post-postscript: I see in your just-posted images, the wind direction arrows are just about "unchopped" so it is likely my terminal is at fault? Are all terminals "equal"?]
Hello again, David.

It's good to hear that you finally met with success! Smile

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About the arrows with chopped heads in the terminal, this is the first I've heard of
such a bug, so I don't know what to tell you.

Are all terminals created equal? After reading your account, I'm not sure anymore.

I chose to include the st terminal in the package because our default urxvt was
"absorbing" (intercepting, or not showing) a lot of the ANSI colors in the wttr.in
weather report. Now if there's a problem with st... what else to use?

Other things I see as possible (to investigate, but not necessarily probable):
-- an incomplete or faulty character set in Unicorn Pup?

-- what typographers call "kerning", the spacing between the characters. I know "of
it": there is something like a virtual Linotype in every OS, that sees to it that the
characters of a text are equally and clearly separated. You can play with that kerning
a little in word processors. But in the console? I thought the user's choice of font
took care of that.

Weird.

On the other hand, if you're talking of terminals in the sense of monitors, then no,
they are not created equal. Quality of monitors can and does vary widely.

Sorry I couldn't be of more help on this subject.

BFN.

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PostPosted: Fri 22 Jul 2016, 03:17    Post subject: Further testing in Other Pups
Subject description: some glibc issues in older Pups
 

G'day/jour,

I have now copied the missing libtinfo.so.5 to a number of different Pups.

Precise looks OK now, also PupJibaroJessie.

Slackos are also fine with the Tahr-derived libtinfo.so.5.

In PupJibaroWheezy, nothing happened so I tried running less in a terminal and got a 'Missing file' message that I don't understand - see screenshot. What file is missing?

In SnowPup, I saw a message about the wrong glibc - not surprising as this is a kernel-2.xxx Pup.

In DPupWheezy with a 3.5.2 kernel, after less gave the enigmatic above 'missing file' message from the terminal, I ran wttr.in.sh in the terminal and had another glibc message (screenshot).

I may need to explore the LIBRARYPATH option for the affected files?

Why I need as many weather apps as I can get:
Embarassed I was wrong again (see my previous post)! Looks like we had 26+C today - so I gave my car its annual "whether it needs it or not" wash. Back to cold for the weekend by the looks of the forecasts Sad .

David S.
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PostPosted: Fri 22 Jul 2016, 10:51    Post subject: Re: Further testing in Other Pups
Subject description: some glibc issues in older Pups
 

davids45 wrote:
G'day/jour,

I have now copied the missing libtinfo.so.5 to a number of different Pups.

Precise looks OK now, also PupJibaroJessie.

Slackos are also fine with the Tahr-derived libtinfo.so.5.

In PupJibaroWheezy, nothing happened so I tried running less in a terminal and got a 'Missing file' message that I don't understand - see screenshot. What file is missing?

In SnowPup, I saw a message about the wrong glibc - not surprising as this is a kernel-2.xxx Pup.

In DPupWheezy with a 3.5.2 kernel, after less gave the enigmatic above 'missing file' message from the terminal, I ran wttr.in.sh in the terminal and had another glibc message (screenshot).

I may need to explore the LIBRARYPATH option for the affected files?

Why I need as many weather apps as I can get:
Embarassed I was wrong again (see my previous post)! Looks like we had 26+C today - so I gave my car its annual "whether it needs it or not" wash. Back to cold for the weekend by the looks of the forecasts Sad .

David S.
Hi David.

Another informative report. Thanks.

Less needs a text file to show the user! The less program is a text reader. Proper
syntax is < less text-xyz.txt >. If you don't have a *.txt file nearby to feed it, you
could do as your screen cap suggests and type < less --help > ! This means that
less is working though.

The DPupWheezy libc result with st was to be expected. I compiled it on Precise
5.4.3 that has a glibc of 2.15, whereas wheezy's glibc is only a 2.13. Back to the
drawing board on that one.You don't need to change anything, I'll simply recompile
st on a lower glibc such as DpupWheezy's.

About yesterday's arrowheads: the Inconsolata font has been fired. It was "her
fault": she couldn't keep her heads. Wink The LiberationMono font is being called in
as a substitute.

BFN.

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PostPosted: Sat 23 Jul 2016, 12:44    Post subject:  

Hello all!

Here is the latest version: WorldWeather-3.7c9-corr2.pet. Please download from:
http://www82.zippyshare.com/v/Nruf9Oqk/file.html

(If you downloaded earlier, please accept my apologies and download the above.
French member augras discovered an oversight in the previous archive. I also found
a couple of oversights. The archive above now contains the appropriate corrections.)

Changes :
-- The menu is now using vovchik's new evolution of aemenu, aemenu-pango
(please see attached capture). Many thanks to vovchik. This evolved aemenu
incorporates markups (such as typographic characters, bolds, etc.) to make the
menu easier to focus on, and generally clearer.

This welcome update by vovchik means that you can follow a kind of "style sheet"
to keep the parts of your menu consistent with one another.

-- Any advanced operation (such as cleaning up old weather reports in /var/tmp) is
now grouped under the "Expert" sub-menu.

-- The stations.txt list of world weather stations is now included in the "Expert"
sub-menu. This list enables the user to search for a location pretty much in any
country.

Once the list is displayed in the less reader, to search it you type "/" (forward
diagonal) character and the name of a location. To continue searching forward for the
word, you type "n"; to search backwards, you type "N" (capital n).

-- The icon is back in the middle of the screen.

-- The Inconsolata font has been replaced with the LiberationMono font because of
the arrowheads not showing properly in the Inconsolata font.

-- I recompiled the st terminal under a sulu Puppy (C library 2.11) to accommodate
use of the script with older Puppies.

-- The version number change from 2 to 3 means that this is the 3rd interface
(vovchik's "pango" aemenu is being used in this version, whereas the regular aemenu
was used in version 2, and a straight console was used in version 1). The other
numbers refer to the main script version (which means it has remained virtually
unchanged from last time.)

If you find a bug, please do not hesitate to leave a post here.

Enjoy! Smile
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PostPosted: Sat 23 Jul 2016, 18:19    Post subject:  

There was a suggested correction here, but it's not needed if you download the very latest
archive mentioned above.

Thanks for your understanding.

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PostPosted: Sun 24 Jul 2016, 02:07    Post subject: Wind direction - almost right
Subject description: Colour it to highlight against hyphens?
 

G'jour/day musher0,

I'm trying your latest version (link in your second last post).

The weather icon was screen centre and not behind my widgets Smile , although in this Wheezy Pup, it did make the widgets disappear as before. Pwidgets sometimes does this with other packages, so it is probably a pwidgets issue. Re-starting pwidgets and all is good again.

Also I still have the "terminal not fully functioning" message and I need to hit <Enter> for the report to display. Check the top line of the attached report screenshot where this warning/error is still present. Your early report screenshots don't have this start-up message so it is a puzzle for me as all my Pups seem to do this Warning.

Your fix for getting the wind direction arrows to fully display is nearly right. In the attached screenshot, the SE wind arrow looks thicker than the easterly wind arrow and is very slightly cut at its tip?

Can the wind arrows be coloured (e.g. blue, which does not look like it is used for other coloured text)? Today, these are very cold winds here, so blue looks appropriate, for this hemisphere anyway Smile ).

Thanks for your efforts,

David S.
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PostPosted: Sun 24 Jul 2016, 09:06    Post subject:  

Hello David.

Thanks for the thanks and thanks for testing.

About the arrowheads: at least now it affects only part of the NW and the SW
arrows. But I'm still looking for a better font.

As to coloring the arrows in blue or another color, I'm afraid that the change for
that would be up river from this script, on Mr. Chubin's originating site. Besides,
the wind speed numbers right next to the wind arrow are colored, no?

I have discovered that our developer colleague Chubin has color-coded the digits
for the wind speed and the temperatures: if you look closely, you'll see that the
higher those digits are, the "redder" they get!

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I found a number of potential solutions for the "Terminal Warning" through
http://www.ask.com/web?q=linux+terminal+not+fully+functioning&qsrc=1&o=0&l=dir&qo=serpSearchTopBox

Are you running your Puppies on a Windows-based virtual machine of some kind?
The bug seems to happen mostly on WhineDose machines. In any case, what
does
Code:
echo $TERM
tell you?

A potential solution suggested by ubuntu users could be to type, in terminal,
Code:
export TERM=xterm
and/or to include it near the top of your /root/.bashrc configuration file.
(Please see attached screen captures.)

Have a great day!
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PostPosted: Sun 24 Jul 2016, 13:03    Post subject:  

@David:

About you having to restart pwidgets after the weather script icon has been placed,
here's a new take on the pinstall.sh script.

This script should :
-- kill any running pwidgets
-- place the weather con in the middle of the screen
-- then restore the pwidgets to their former state.

Care to try it? You can try it on its own. It will just put another weather-script icon
on screen. It worked on my set-up, but I'd like to have a second opinion, please,
before I incorporate it in my next version. Thanks in advance.

BFN.
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Code:
#!/bin/sh
# pinstall.sh # pour / for Meteo-ds-le-monde
# (c) Christian L'Écuyer, alias « musher0 » (forum PuppyLinux),
#     ... Gatineau (Qc), Canada, 23 juillet 2016. GPL3. ...
#  /usr/share/doc/meteo-tradFR/gpl3_fr.sh affichera la license.
####
fc-cache -r # pour installer la fonte requise. / To install the required font.

####
# Icone-Meteo # pour déposer l'icône sur le bureau
####
[ "`ps | grep pwidgets`" ] && PwidgetS=1 && killall -q conky
# Remove any running pwidgets.

# Prepare
cd /root/Choices/ROX-Filer
cp -f PuppyPin PuppyPin.cdr # Copie de réserve / Back-up

HauTPPin="`wc -l < PuppyPin`";HauTPPin="`expr $HauTPPin - 1`"
head -n $HauTPPin PuppyPin > PuppyPin.tmp

# Measure screen
VertIcN="`xwininfo -root | awk '$1=="Height:" { print $2/2}'`"
HorizIcN="`xwininfo -root | awk '$1=="Width:" { print $2/2}'`" # 8*7
# En plein milieu de l'écran. / Right in the middle of the screen.
[ "${LANG:0:2}" = "fr" ] && EtiqT="Météo" || EtiqT="Weather"

# Create new PuppyPin
echo "<icon x=\"$HorizIcN\" y=\"$VertIcN\" label=\"$EtiqT\">/usr/share/applications/Weather_around_the_World.desktop</icon>
</pinboard>" >> PuppyPin.tmp

# Enable
mv -f PuppyPin.tmp PuppyPin
rox -p /root/Choices/ROX-Filer/PuppyPin

# Restore pwidgets if they were active.
[ $PwidgetS -eq 1 ] && /root/Startup/0_show_widgets
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PostPosted: Sun 24 Jul 2016, 20:05    Post subject: Success with Wheezies with latest version (glibc fixed?)
Subject description: Still more to test
 

G'jour/day musher0,

I've now tested your latest version in two Wheezy Pups that hadn't reported with earlier versions but now both do Very Happy .

I don't have Windows on this computer and 'echo $TERM' returned 'xterm' in this Pup (Frugal PupjibaroWheezy).

I had noticed the colouring of the numbers for temperature and wind speed, and now you've pointed it out, the higher values have the psychologically warmer colours. Although looking at a few currently warm cities, there is a bit of variation for the change-over values. I wonder what the colour change will be for +50C which is more likely in the future - I'd almost class that as 'getting a bit hot' Shocked .
What about colouring the wind direction arrow the same colour as the first speed value, or would that detract from its visibility - where the wind is coming from is as important as its speed range, if not more so, in my experience.

I see you displaying a fancier set of dialog boxes during location selecting than I get. Is that with vovchik's aemenu-pango pet which must be separately installed? Will it affect all program menus?

I'll test when I can the other fixes you've offered in recent posts, and report back.

An ongoing thank you.

David S.
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PostPosted: Mon 25 Jul 2016, 18:26    Post subject:  

Hi again musher0,

Just to let you know; I took up your suggestion and sent an email to Igor a few days ago - asking for clarification about the precise meaning of some of the output.

He may be away or perhaps he is busy with important matters, but I'll post again if I have anything useful to report.

I tried your later version and note that "Noon" now reads "Afternoon", which seems have been effected by you rather than Igor.

There will be hundreds of UK locations where local postcodes work well so that's encouraging.
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PostPosted: Mon 25 Jul 2016, 21:58    Post subject:  

ASD wrote:
Hi again musher0,

Just to let you know; I took up your suggestion and sent an email to Igor a few days ago - asking for clarification about the precise meaning of some of the output.

He may be away or perhaps he is busy with important matters, but I'll post again if I have anything useful to report.

I tried your later version and note that "Noon" now reads "Afternoon", which seems have been effected by you rather than Igor.

There will be hundreds of UK locations where local postcodes work well so that's encouraging.
Hi ASD!

Yeah, translating "noon" to "afternoon" is my doing! Guilty as charged! Also thanks
for trying to get in touch with the "up river" author.

You are right about the postal codes. I tested my postal code for Canada and it
works fine. Another way to find the weather for your exact location is entering the
latitude and longitude of your home. You may get that info using a little program
called Locator, which the forum has right here!

I mention these little tricks because sometimes entering the name of your city or of
the nearest airport doesn't quite cut it. For example, this morning, for my city, the
wttr report said there was intermittent rain, but it was pouring outside my window!!
When I narrowed it down with the postal code and even more so with the lat./long.
coordinates, the weather report and the actual weather "agreed", as davids45 once
put it! Smile

Finally, responding to an earlier concern of yours, I found a way to integrate the
imperial (aka Fahrenheit) degrees in the menu. I published it already on the
French side. However, I didn't have the time to translate the presentation and
explanations of the changes and additions yet and publish it here.

Also the new archive is in two parts, which you have to reassemble with this line
Code:
cat WorldWeather-3.8a.pet-0? > WorldWeather-3.8a.pet
before installation proper. (If you wish to get it from there.)

TWYL. (Talk With You Later.)

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PostPosted: Tue 26 Jul 2016, 00:14    Post subject:  

Good evening everyone.

Please welcome version 3.8a.

Changes
-- You can now search the Stations.txt reference without worrying about upper-case
or lower-case.

-- The script has been promoted : version 3.8a Wink

New
-- Four new items in the « Expert » sub-menu :

-- 2 little no-fuss converters, from Celsius to Fahrenheit and vice versa

-- You can select to have the reports in Celsius ou Fahrenheit degrees. (Watch it:
if you change degrees, all existing weather reports will be erased.)

Installation
-- Detection of pwidgets at install time: if pwidgets is active, it is closed before the
weather script icon is placed on the desktop, and then it is re-activated. Thanks to
davids45 for making me aware of the problem.

-- The pet archive is attached, but in two parts. To re-assemble it, type:
Code:
cat WorldWeather-3.8a.pet-0? > WorldWeather-3.8a.pet
Screen caps will follow.

Enjoy!
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