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PPM MOD 1.2.2 : The modified Puppy Package Manager
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Sailor Enceladus

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PostPosted: Fri 29 Jul 2016, 13:06    Post subject:  

bigpup wrote:
To be honest. I am not really sure why PPM needs this?

My only complaint with the original PPM structure is that if you install a lot of packages, then /root/.packages can get quite messy and hard to find with everything mixed in together, which I think is what happened to mistfire also. I'm not sure if there was good reason for putting user installed packages in /root/.packages instead of /root/.packages/user-packages originally, maybe it was just more convenient for devs at the time. I would have just made that one change for now and see how it works, ironing out the bugs for that, rather than doing all these adjustments at once, but if mistfire is up to challenge of debugging it all then I guess all the power to them. Very Happy I think wdlkmpx might be considering a PPM fork in the rationalise branch also.

Recently I haven't been "installing" many pets though, I prefer just using SFS files or ibiblio/forum pets on demand in pfix=ram.
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PostPosted: Sat 30 Jul 2016, 06:43    Post subject:  

musher0 wrote:
Hi bigpup.

Want company? Smile

Is this meant only for the ubuntu breed of Pups?

I mean, the original PPM on josejp2424's pupjibaro jessie (based on debian jessie
repos) hangs a lot. I suppose I could test this PPM MOD on it? What do I need to
change to make it work on the pupjibaro?

Thanks in advance.


@musher0 PPM Mod works fine in different Puppy Linux 5.x onwards. It is already implemented in x-slacko slim which is slackware based. It also works fine in pristine tahr pup and xenial pup.

Just install it and it works properly.
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PostPosted: Sat 30 Jul 2016, 06:54    Post subject:  

mistfire wrote:
musher0 wrote:
Hi bigpup.

Want company? Smile

Is this meant only for the ubuntu breed of Pups?

I mean, the original PPM on josejp2424's pupjibaro jessie (based on debian jessie
repos) hangs a lot. I suppose I could test this PPM MOD on it? What do I need to
change to make it work on the pupjibaro?

Thanks in advance.


@musher0 PPM Mod works fine in different Puppy Linux 5.x onwards. It is already implemented in x-slacko slim which is slackware based. It also works fine in pristine tahr pup and xenial pup.

Just install it and it works properly.
Many thanks for the kind reply, Mistfire.
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PostPosted: Sat 30 Jul 2016, 10:53    Post subject:  

Hello Mistfire.

I just tried your PPM mod on the pupjibaro jessie and to be frank, I don't know if it's
working ok or not.

The "events" seem to be happening one after the other as they should, but I get a
segmentation fault for the debian-jessie database (11 Mg). I tried to correct it by
asking for a 2nd update, but all the debian repos "told me" they had failed, while the
puppy ones said "success".

If I try to install pekwm, for example, I get told it is already installed -- when it's not.

Later I'll do an fscheck on the pupsave and on the partition. If that fails, I'll use the
"defrag" script, but that's all I can think of at the moment.

I've asked this before, and got no answer: would the debian repos be guarded
somehow against the PPM?

Because this is not the first time I've had problems with the debian repos through
PPM, while I can get most of what I need directly from the same repos with my
browser, using the site
https://packages.debian.org/search?suite=jessie&section=all&arch=any&searchon=contents&keywords=libparted-fs-resize.so.0
for example, by simply changing the query.

And more generally, has any PPM developer ever asked the people on the "taking"
end of the PPM (the webmasters at debian, slackware, ubuntu, etc.) if they were
allergic to the PPM or accepting it? It would be the polite thing to do, wouldn't ?

Thanks in advance for any lead.

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PostPosted: Sat 30 Jul 2016, 20:34    Post subject:  

@musher0 PPM mod works successfully if the performance is the same as the original PPM. It can install apps, uninstall apps, and update database package successfully. Pupjibaro jessie uses synaptic package manager. I'm afraid that PPM may not work properly.
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PostPosted: Sun 31 Jul 2016, 11:00    Post subject:  

mistfire wrote:
@musher0 PPM mod works successfully if the performance is the same as the original PPM. It can install apps, uninstall apps, and update database package successfully. Pupjibaro jessie uses synaptic package manager. I'm afraid that PPM may not work properly.
With all due respect, Mistfire, I think the above answer doesn't mean much. It's
very diplomatically said, though.

Does your PPM Mod check the validity of the URLs for the providers of packages
to the various Puppy breeds? That would be a nice feature to have when the
source repo changes its address (when the originating distro gets bumped by a
newer version).

The current beta version of pupjibaro jessie (v. B3) uses synaptic, that is true. Use
of synaptic will automatically add +/- 150 Mg of data right off the bat to your Pup.
josejp2424's B3 jessie also uses a recent kernel (4.50 I think) which slows things
down horribly.

I was hoping to rescue the previous pupjibaro jessie beta verslon, which is much
faster and which uses the PPM.

No matter. Thanks anyway.

I'm used to getting my hands in the grease with Puppies! Maybe I should test the
PPM from Iguleder's LibrePup.

BFN.

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PostPosted: Mon 01 Aug 2016, 01:29    Post subject:  

musher0 PPM checks validity of the URL by list if the first URL is not valid, it will jump to the second URL until it reached the end of list.
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PostPosted: Thu 04 Aug 2016, 20:54    Post subject:  

New PPM iteration released:

Changes:
* Full PUP package support. It allows to install old Puppy 1.x and 2.x package without conversion needed (by redirecting to newly improved dotpuprox2 handler). The installed pup package can be uninstall using PPM. (Application performance from old puppy is not guaranteed but 60-90% applications works fine.) Just associate (or Open with) pup packages to petget in order to work.
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PostPosted: Thu 11 Aug 2016, 05:48    Post subject:  

New PPM iteration released:

Changes:
* Major overhaul in dotpup handler
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PostPosted: Thu 11 Aug 2016, 22:11    Post subject:  

mistfire wrote:
@musher0 PPM mod works successfully if the performance is the same as the original PPM. It can install apps, uninstall apps, and update database package successfully. Pupjibaro jessie uses synaptic package manager. I'm afraid that PPM may not work properly.
For the record, the initial pupjibaro-jessie beta with kernel 3.18.22 and the PPM2 is
still available here.

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PostPosted: Mon 15 Aug 2016, 23:27    Post subject:  

@musher0 I installed latest PPM-mod on pupjibaro-jessie beta and it works fine.
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PostPosted: Mon 22 Aug 2016, 22:29    Post subject:  

New version released

Changes:
* GUI layout bugfix
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