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Fatdog64-710 beta [28 August 2016] [CLOSED]
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SFR


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PostPosted: Tue 30 Aug 2016, 19:33    Post subject:  

belham2 wrote:
Final note, once again stuck SFR's firewall tray icon in etc/xdg/autostart...not sure why this little gem of a visual sight firewall script isn't included in the FD64 beta version (mentioned it in the alpha version some months ago).

It's there, in /etc/xdg/Startup, but it's disabled by default.
Enable it either using 'chmod +x' or 'Control panel -> Desktop -> Manage desktop startup programs'.
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mcewanw wrote:
I just copied the vmlinuz and large initrd into there

Code:
kernel /puppy-fatdog/vmlinuz   basesfs=device:sda5:/puppy-fatdog/32bit-fd64_710b.sfs savefile=direct:device:sda5:/puppy-fatdog/fd64save-abc.ext2 psubdir=puppy-fatdog pmedia=atahd

Since you're using the default, "humongous initrd" (check it out in FAQ), the base SFS is inside of it, so you don't need the 'basesfs=...' bit.
Actually you don't need also pmedia nor psubdir - they're not suppoted in Fatdog.
Try this:
Code:
kernel /puppy-fatdog/vmlinuz savefile=direct:device:sda5:/puppy-fatdog/fd64save-abc.ext2
initrd /puppy-fatdog/initrd

Btw, yes, 32bit-fd64_710b.sfs is indeed 32bit compatibility SFS.

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PostPosted: Tue 30 Aug 2016, 19:35    Post subject:  

@mcewanw
This works for me. My drive is sdc1 and my grub files are on the same drive hence (hd0,0).

title FatDog 710b
rootnoverify (hd0,0)
kernel /fd710b/vmlinuz savefile=direct:device:sdc1:fd710b/fd64save dofsck waitdev=1
initrd /fd710b/initrd

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PostPosted: Wed 31 Aug 2016, 03:57    Post subject:  

Thanks SFR and smokey01. Successfully booted into Fatdog64-710b and posting from it right now. It certainly looks and feels like a tradition Puppy - I hadn't expected that degree of lookalike compatibility.

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PostPosted: Wed 31 Aug 2016, 06:42    Post subject:  

I tried my weX AV+screencast program in FatDog64 by first converting the pet to FatDog package via rightclick menu. I didn't bother installing scrox (64bit version) for these initial tests since need libgiblib.so.1 for that. Instead just used weX with Fixed Region (setting appropriate coordinates in weX config GUI.

Worked fine with the FatDog included ffmpeg version, except for one thing... FatDog, unlike other systems I've tested seems to have threads enabled correctly in its kernel. Result is that ffmpeg starts a child process as well as parent on my machine, so trying to stop the recording process with simple kill -TERM fails to work. I thus need to change kill to pkill -TERM -P to kill the child process instead (in weX function stoprec) - that seems to work fine, but I need to test it more since probably need to do the same in pause functions (pauserec and unpauserec) - i.e. all kill commands in these functions changed to pkill -<signal_type> -P.

There hasn't been any feedback on weX since I released it nor many downloads so it may not be worth my bother uploading a new version. Spring is finally here in this part of the world and I'm busy in the garden (!) but I'll see how much time I can find for further testing and consider a second release. I think most are just using Simple Screen Recorder now though, so not sure if worth more work really.

FatDog working well for me so far by the way.

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PostPosted: Wed 31 Aug 2016, 08:04    Post subject:  

I have now uploaded a second version of weX, which seems to stop the recording correctly in FatDog64-710beta per my post above (note that for woof-ce Puppy Linux or Debian/UbuntuDogs the original weX version is still needed):

http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=107905

I haven't tested it much at all so hopefully I didn't make any coding error prior to packaging it.

Remember, for Area/Window region mode to work you need scrox 64bit version installed, and that will need giblib1 as a dependency.

If anyone tests weX and wants to give me any feedback, please do so on the above weX thread.

William

EDIT: Just noticed the mhwaveedit setup you have in FatDog doesn't seem to recognise mp3 tracks even after I installed lame encoder. In XenialDog, if you click mhwaveedit icon in weX the audio track instantly appears for editing (when recorded as x264 video with mp3 audio track in mkv container).

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PostPosted: Wed 31 Aug 2016, 12:02    Post subject:  

Getting repetitive bad d/l or bad burns. Is there something inherent? any other d/l sites?
Many ".EDD: ERROR 1000 reading sector 149947/15069/150789/151765/13679/14567/73390.....etc."
But it keeps running, running...... , just never gets to boot up!
Update:
A fourth d/l and lost count of re-burns resulted in a working copy. Looks good! Any chance of putting .iso on a mirror? smokey?!
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PostPosted: Thu 01 Sep 2016, 03:45    Post subject:  Partitions & USB flashdrive dd install mode  

Hi guys! I'm new here. Alban from France. I've been using Puppy Linux and then Fatdog for about 4 years. I'm a fan of the load in ram approach, and the preincluded features, which let you work on any computer in just seconds. So a huge thanks to the devs!

I have a technical question. My wish is to :
    -Make a USB flash drive that can boot both on UEFI and legacy BIOS systems,
    -But still use the rest of my flash drive's capacity as a regular USB disk, working both on Linux and Windows (lets say FAT32) and without the need for admin rights.

I installed Fatdog on a 64GB drive following the dd isohybrid method described here:
ftp://distro.ibiblio.org/fatdog/web/faqs/uefi-flashdrive.html
It allowed me to reach my first goal. The drive boots on UEFI and BIOS without troubles.

Then I also used the fix-usb.sh included in Fatdog. It effectively created a third partition called sdb3, that i could format to FAT32.
However, when plugging the drive in windows, the only partition seen is the sdb2 10 MB FAT16 partition containing GRUB and EFI drivers.

I tried to change drive letters in windows disk manager. Even if i assign a drive letter to the 50+ GB FAT32 partition, it will only link to the 10 MB FAT16.

I think it has to do with the overlapping first 2 partitions messing with msdos partition table (sdb1 ranges from 0 to 610303, and sdb2 from 116 to 20595).

I tried to manually regenerate a partition table with fdisk before dding the iso, with no luck.
Does anyone know about a workaround about this? I will investigate any idea! Thanks in advance guys!
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PostPosted: Thu 01 Sep 2016, 06:54    Post subject:  

Why not use one USB fob per OS - the smaller ones are cheap or even cheaper (I was given one recently just for looking at a car in a show!). It's possible to slip at least four on your house key ring. It's always a bad idea to mix M$doze with anything - in another four years you'll probably forget it ever existed?
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PostPosted: Thu 01 Sep 2016, 07:50    Post subject:  

@sage here are a couple more links.
http://ftp.nluug.nl/ftp/pub/os/Linux/distr/fatdog/iso/710beta/
http://mirror.aarnet.edu.au/pub/fatdog/iso/710beta/

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PostPosted: Thu 01 Sep 2016, 07:51    Post subject:
Subject description: rox-filer-jun7-08192016
 

fatdog wrote:
...
...
There have been about 230 commits since the alpha release. So there's been a bit going on...
...
Updates/additions:
...
rox-filer-jun7-08192016 (https://github.com/jun7/rox-filer)
...
Can you guys, please enlighten me on the nuances of this particular variant vs the original rox-filer sources? And will it be too much to ask you to share the build (./config) script? I'm eager to compile rox-filer myself and I want the best variant. Thank you in advance.
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PostPosted: Thu 01 Sep 2016, 08:10    Post subject:  

Sage wrote:
Why not use one USB fob per OS - the smaller ones are cheap or even cheaper (I was given one recently just for looking at a car in a show!). It's possible to slip at least four on your house key ring. It's always a bad idea to mix M$doze with anything - in another four years you'll probably forget it ever existed?
Hey I tried that.
Not with USB sticks.
But with micro SD cards.
With newer and newer phones, people are not using older sd cards. Sometimes Phone company offers some smaller Gb sd card free, which is replaced with new bigger one instantly.

I asked around my friends and found few unused 2Gb and 4Gb cards.

But problems I had were,
1) They all look the same and I can't decide which has what.
2) I found sd card and their card readers unreliable compared to usb pen drives.
My 1 Gb transcend pendrive, which was biggest one can get a decade ago is still going strong and has Fatdog, Tahr64 and debiandog on it.
While 3 SD cards and one card reader have already stopped working or even being detected on PC in last 6 months.
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PostPosted: Thu 01 Sep 2016, 08:17    Post subject:
Subject description: rox-filer-jun7-08192016
 

anikin wrote:
fatdog wrote:
...
...
There have been about 230 commits since the alpha release. So there's been a bit going on...
...
Updates/additions:
...
rox-filer-jun7-08192016 (https://github.com/jun7/rox-filer)
...
Can you guys, please enlighten me on the nuances of this particular variant vs the original rox-filer sources? And will it be too much to ask you to share the build (./config) script? I'm eager to compile rox-filer myself and I want the best variant. Thank you in advance.
Hi anikin,
I found this link on github while looking.
https://github.com/jun7/rox-filer/wiki/Changes
May be it will help you.
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PostPosted: Thu 01 Sep 2016, 08:29    Post subject:
Subject description: rox-filer-jun7-08192016
 

@anikin if you have your devx loaded, look in your local system here:
/usr/src/pkgbuild
Have a look at the README.
The recipe for rox-filer is here: /usr/src/pkgbuild/source/rox-filer-jun7-2016.08-x86_64-1.tar.gz


anikin wrote:
fatdog wrote:
...
...
There have been about 230 commits since the alpha release. So there's been a bit going on...
...
Updates/additions:
...
rox-filer-jun7-08192016 (https://github.com/jun7/rox-filer)
...
Can you guys, please enlighten me on the nuances of this particular variant vs the original rox-filer sources? And will it be too much to ask you to share the build (./config) script? I'm eager to compile rox-filer myself and I want the best variant. Thank you in advance.

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PostPosted: Thu 01 Sep 2016, 08:41    Post subject:
Subject description: rox-filer-jun7-08192016
 

smokey01 wrote:
@anikin if you have your devx loaded, look in your local system here:
/usr/src/pkgbuild
Have a look at the README.
The recipe for rox-filer is here: /usr/src/pkgbuild/source/rox-filer-jun7-2016.08-x86_64-1.tar.gz


anikin wrote:
fatdog wrote:
...
...
There have been about 230 commits since the alpha release. So there's been a bit going on...
...
Updates/additions:
...
rox-filer-jun7-08192016 (https://github.com/jun7/rox-filer)
...
Can you guys, please enlighten me on the nuances of this particular variant vs the original rox-filer sources? And will it be too much to ask you to share the build (./config) script? I'm eager to compile rox-filer myself and I want the best variant. Thank you in advance.

And here's the list of changes:
https://github.com/jun7/rox-filer/wiki/Changes

Greetings!

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PostPosted: Thu 01 Sep 2016, 09:02    Post subject:  

Sage wrote:
Why not use one USB fob per OS - the smaller ones are cheap or even cheaper (I was given one recently just for looking at a car in a show!). It's possible to slip at least four on your house key ring. It's always a bad idea to mix M$doze with anything - in another four years you'll probably forget it ever existed?


Your proposition is interesting, but it's not what i'm aiming at. However, i might just do that if i cannot reach my goal. I'd rather keep just one high capacity/speed thumb drive, and it has to be readable on Win for work purposes.
I wish my company would dump MS, but we french guys are clearly not ready for that (and we are using too many specific professional softwares which are win only at the moment).

@drunkjedi : I agree with you about µsd cards. They're cheap, but slow, not reliable, get lost very easily and are hard to recognize. It's a good budget solution though.

If anyone has a clue, about the partition mess, i'm still hoping!
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