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#121 Post by BarryK »

don570 wrote:Remember to compile mhwaveedit for the new audio mixer

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./configure --with-default-mixerapp=aumixer --prefix=/usr
Actually, it should be "--with-default-mixerapp=defaultaudiomixer"

OK, I will compile it.
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#122 Post by BarryK »

matty wrote:
DavidS wrote:I think I may have found a small bug of importance. Not an area I know very well:

When attempting to set the time from a server it gets it wrong every time.

It has set the time to the 3rd of this month, early afternoon 10 times this morning.

I do not know a thing about that kind of software on Linux (never had a use of it before the Raspberry Pi). I did try all the servers you include to be sure of error.
Hi DavidS,
I am using RPI2 as my desktop; switched across from Raspbian as soon as BarryK added LibreOffice to his Quirky 8.0.25 alpha (thank you for this Barry). Quirky is an excellent and full featured desktop environment. There are other advantages of Quirky/puppy/fatdogARM like being able to easily mount/unmount various USBsticks on the rpi. Plus all the great info on this forum.

I had same issue as you with timesync not working. I fixed it by the following (although I don’t know which one did the trick!):

1. Install these two extra packages (and all their dependencies – do this via the Puppy Package Manager ("install" icon on the desktop opens the PPM):
ntp_4.2.8p4+dfsg
fake-hwclock_0.9

2. Reboot pi and then open Menu>System>Boot Manager configure boot up. Click on the “..services to run at boot..
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#123 Post by BarryK »

More shiny new things for Quirky:

SimpleVLC: http://barryk.org/news/?viewDetailed=00440

Inkscape: http://barryk.org/news/?viewDetailed=00439

Maybe, if we can get Internet time sync sorted out, Quirky will be ready to be announced on the Raspberry Pi forum.

Though, my SimpleVLC is rather immature, only able to play local files.
It is actually quite a simple script, the structure is in place for adding more features, and someone might get inspired to add more stuff like Internet streaming.
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#124 Post by BarryK »

BarryK wrote:
matty wrote:
DavidS wrote:I think I may have found a small bug of importance. Not an area I know very well:

When attempting to set the time from a server it gets it wrong every time.

It has set the time to the 3rd of this month, early afternoon 10 times this morning.

I do not know a thing about that kind of software on Linux (never had a use of it before the Raspberry Pi). I did try all the servers you include to be sure of error.
Hi DavidS,
I am using RPI2 as my desktop; switched across from Raspbian as soon as BarryK added LibreOffice to his Quirky 8.0.25 alpha (thank you for this Barry). Quirky is an excellent and full featured desktop environment. There are other advantages of Quirky/puppy/fatdogARM like being able to easily mount/unmount various USBsticks on the rpi. Plus all the great info on this forum.

I had same issue as you with timesync not working. I fixed it by the following (although I don’t know which one did the trick!):

1. Install these two extra packages (and all their dependencies – do this via the Puppy Package Manager ("install" icon on the desktop opens the PPM):
ntp_4.2.8p4+dfsg
fake-hwclock_0.9

2. Reboot pi and then open Menu>System>Boot Manager configure boot up. Click on the “..services to run at boot..
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#125 Post by DavidS »

BarryK wrote: Maybe, if we can get Internet time sync sorted out, Quirky will be ready to be announced on the Raspberry Pi forum.
Oops, I jumped the gun by a couple of days. Sorry.

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#126 Post by DavidS »

I do not know if it matters to anyone else, though I use OpenScad quite a bit and it would be nice if the needed libs could be added to the Repo for Quirky Xerus ARMv7? I had to manually install a few .deb packages:

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libboost-filesystem1.55.0_1.55.0+dfsg-3_armhf.deb
libboost-program-options1.55.0_1.55.0+dfsg-3_armhf.deb
libboost-regex1.55.0_1.55.0+dfsg-3_armhf.deb
libboost-system1.55.0_1.55.0+dfsg-3_armhf.deb
libboost-thread1.55.0_1.55.0+dfsg-3_armhf.deb
libcgal10_4.5-2_armhf.deb
libglew1.10_1.10.0-3_armhf.deb
libopencsg1_1.3.2-2+b1_armhf.deb
libqt4-opengl_4.8.6+git64-g5dc8b2b+dfsg-3+deb8u1_armhf.deb
libqt4-opengl_4.8.7+dfsg-9_armhf.deb
openscad_2014.03+dfsg-1_armhf.deb
So if not to much to ask, and you think enough people would use them would it be to much to ask for these to be put in the Repo to be available form PPM?

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#127 Post by don570 »

Here is how I connected to a home network , linux or Windows.

Plug in my USB wifi adaptor to pi2 board. Fortunately my adaptor allows hot pluging.

Right click on network tray icon to configure the settings.
Choose Barry's Simple Network Setup

I was surprised to see my driver was listed 'carl9170' (see image)


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Click wlan0 button.

A list of networks available is shown.
Choose your home wifi network and security protocol(WPA) and password of your home wifi network.

The connection should take about 15 seconds.

Use YASSM share search to search for a SAMBA or Windows share folder. Click 'Select' icon.

If everything went well then the share folder should pop up.

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To check if your adaptor driver is loaded...
Go to Start Menu and choose 'Bootmanager configure bootup'

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Drivers that are loaded are on the left side.

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#128 Post by step »

don570 wrote:Here is how I connected to a home network , linux or Windows.

Plug in my USB wifi adaptor to pi2 board. Fortunately my adaptor allows hot pluging.

Right click on network tray icon to configure the settings.
Choose Barry's Simple Network Setup

I was surprised to see my driver was listed 'carl9170' (see image)

Click wlan0 button.

A list of networks available is shown.
Choose your home wifi network and security protocol(WPA) and password of your home wifi network.

The connection should take about 15 seconds.
...
Thanks for posting all the necessary steps. Unfortunately, in my case the connection never happens. My wifi driver is listed and loaded.

Don't worry about it, I will use a wired connection for now, and let this matter sit until I will really need a wifi connection, which won't happen for another a couple of months.

Thanks for helping out.
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#129 Post by BarryK »

Version 8.0.98 is uploaded. Might as well designate this as a RC, Release Candidate:

http://distro.ibiblio.org/quirky/quirky ... leases/rc/


The main issue I think is that the new SimpleVLC is too simple. Only plays local video and audio files.
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#130 Post by BarryK »

Oh, just now testing 8.0.98 on the Pi3, OpenMAX hardware accelerated video is not working, only get sound.

I will try again with the Pi2. It was working on the Pi2, but that was version 8.0.27 with some improvements, and perhaps different firmware from 8.0.98.
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#131 Post by BarryK »

BarryK wrote:Oh, just now testing 8.0.98 on the Pi3, OpenMAX hardware accelerated video is not working, only get sound.

I will try again with the Pi2. It was working on the Pi2, but that was version 8.0.27 with some improvements, and perhaps different firmware from 8.0.98.
It seems that this might fix it:

Open a terminal, type:

# ldconfig
# export PATH=$PATH:/opt/vc/bin
# simplevlc

That last line will run SimpleVLC. Choose "OpenMAX" video output, then play a video, it should play full-screen.
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#132 Post by Sage »

Version 8.0.98 is uploaded
Getting distinctly heavy for a little RPi guy to handle at ~360Mb .img ! Doing all that singing & dancing costs in terms of real estate. Not to mention the need of watching the heat dissipation/install optional heatsink. Strikes me there's room for a slim-Quirky ~150Mb, perhaps with extra careful app selection and no default options, just PPM? Who's the clever guy on this suggestion? or will we have to leave it to the maestro again?

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#133 Post by DavidS »

Sage wrote:
Version 8.0.98 is uploaded
Getting distinctly heavy for a little RPi guy to handle at ~360Mb .img ! Doing all that singing & dancing costs in terms of real estate. Not to mention the need of watching the heat dissipation/install optional heatsink. Strikes me there's room for a slim-Quirky ~150Mb, perhaps with extra careful app selection and no default options, just PPM? Who's the clever guy on this suggestion? or will we have to leave it to the maestro again?
It is easy to remove extra packages in Puppy Linux, one of its great qualities.

And ~500MB on disk makes this one of the smallest Distros for the RPi (not as small as the x86 puppies I remember weighing in under 90MB). I think the biggest part of that is Open Office, i think that is something like 150MB by itself, and I do prefer AbiWord.

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#134 Post by DavidS »

8.0.98 is great. Though so far I have not yet gotten VLC to play video yet. I can get to the first frame, though that is it so far, and yes I have the gpu_mem=256 on my config.txt.

This is on a Raspberry Pi 3B. I am wondering if it has trouble with the hdmi_drive=2 and hdmi_group=2 settings, needed for my monitor. I also have hdmi_mode=23 (1280x768 in hdmi_group=2).

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#135 Post by BarryK »

BarryK wrote:
BarryK wrote:Oh, just now testing 8.0.98 on the Pi3, OpenMAX hardware accelerated video is not working, only get sound.

I will try again with the Pi2. It was working on the Pi2, but that was version 8.0.27 with some improvements, and perhaps different firmware from 8.0.98.
It seems that this might fix it:

Open a terminal, type:

# ldconfig
# export PATH=$PATH:/opt/vc/bin
# simplevlc

That last line will run SimpleVLC. Choose "OpenMAX" video output, then play a video, it should play full-screen.
Yes, I found that woofQ was running 'ldconfig' too soon in the build, before /opt/vc/lib was installed. Fixed.

On the Pi2, just run 'ldonfig' in a terminal, that fixes it, OpenMAX hard accel then works with the video player.
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DavidS wrote:8.0.98 is great. Though so far I have not yet gotten VLC to play video yet. I can get to the first frame, though that is it so far, and yes I have the gpu_mem=256 on my config.txt.

This is on a Raspberry Pi 3B. I am wondering if it has trouble with the hdmi_drive=2 and hdmi_group=2 settings, needed for my monitor. I also have hdmi_mode=23 (1280x768 in hdmi_group=2).
Did you run "ldconfig" in a terminal first?

I have tested on both Pi2 and Pi3, OpenMAX hardware accel works.

Test with a low resolution video at first, such as 480p, anything under 720p.

I tested with this one, that I had previously downloaded:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WG7CtmEkaTg

Ah, that is something that we need to test that it still works -- look in the Internet menu, there is a YoutubeDL downloader app.
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#137 Post by BarryK »

DavidS wrote:
Sage wrote:
Version 8.0.98 is uploaded
Getting distinctly heavy for a little RPi guy to handle at ~360Mb .img ! Doing all that singing & dancing costs in terms of real estate. Not to mention the need of watching the heat dissipation/install optional heatsink. Strikes me there's room for a slim-Quirky ~150Mb, perhaps with extra careful app selection and no default options, just PPM? Who's the clever guy on this suggestion? or will we have to leave it to the maestro again?
It is easy to remove extra packages in Puppy Linux, one of its great qualities.

And ~500MB on disk makes this one of the smallest Distros for the RPi (not as small as the x86 puppies I remember weighing in under 90MB). I think the biggest part of that is Open Office, i think that is something like 150MB by itself, and I do prefer AbiWord.
Yeah, I was aiming for approx equivalence with Raspian, in terms of out-of-the-box functionality. So small size took a back seat.

Considering that Raspian download is 1.3GB, doing pretty well at 360MB.

Maybe Inkscape is an overkill. Openoffice Draw might be an OK SVG editor? -- I don't know, never tried it in that capacity.
Anyone got any experience how those two compare?

If I took out Inkscape, and there are some other places where I can trim the fat, could probably get it down to about 340MB.
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#138 Post by raffy »

I can probably keep an xz'd Libreoffice in a USB drive and add it to Quirky Xerus later...

My tests of the 8.0.25 and 8.0.98 both involved corrupted background image, lost icons at next boot (PuppyPin reports an error in line2). While booting, EXT4-fs is reported to have errors. It could be that shutdown is incomplete? The board's red light is on all the time after shutdown.

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#139 Post by DavidS »

raffy wrote:I can probably keep an xz'd Libreoffice in a USB drive and add it to Quirky Xerus later...

My tests of the 8.0.25 and 8.0.98 both involved corrupted background image, lost icons at next boot (PuppyPin reports an error in line2). While booting, EXT4-fs is reported to have errors. It could be that shutdown is incomplete? The board's red light is on all the time after shutdown.
Red light is supposed to stay on. It sounds like you may have an SD Card going bad, have you tried with a new SD Card?

I admit I expanded my / partition to fill the 16GB SD that I am using, so not quite standard, though I have had no issues at all with the filesystem.

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#140 Post by DavidS »

BarryK wrote:
DavidS wrote:8.0.98 is great. Though so far I have not yet gotten VLC to play video yet. I can get to the first frame, though that is it so far, and yes I have the gpu_mem=256 on my config.txt.

This is on a Raspberry Pi 3B. I am wondering if it has trouble with the hdmi_drive=2 and hdmi_group=2 settings, needed for my monitor. I also have hdmi_mode=23 (1280x768 in hdmi_group=2).
Did you run "ldconfig" in a terminal first?

I have tested on both Pi2 and Pi3, OpenMAX hardware accel works.

Test with a low resolution video at first, such as 480p, anything under 720p.

I tested with this one, that I had previously downloaded:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WG7CtmEkaTg

Ah, that is something that we need to test that it still works -- look in the Internet menu, there is a YoutubeDL downloader app.
I have managed to get videos to play, though no sound on my system, followed the instruction of using ldconfig, and exporting the path, still no sound at all in VLC.

May be related though youtube videos in Seamonkey sometimes have garbled sound, it depends on what the sound is supposed to be, some vids are great some have a loud wining over the sound.

I have eliminated all HW causes, trying different Raspberry Pi's, different HDMI cables, and even different HDMI monitors.

My config.txt does contain changes to the video/audio output in order to work with my primary monitor, as such:

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hdmi_drive=2
hdmi_group=2
hdmi_mode=23
These are the same as are needed for Raspbian, RISC OS, and every other OS on the RPi for my monitor. I do change the hdmi_mode setting as this is a fairly low resolution for this monitor.

I do not know what the cause of the issue is yet, though I am still looking.

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