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veronicathecow


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PostPosted: Thu 03 Nov 2016, 10:07    Post subject:  

Hi Barry, been away from Puppy for a while now. I just got a raspberry Pi 3 (don't know if you remember but I tried to arrange a free Pi for you when it started as I thought puppy would be perfect for the PI)
Wanted to say thanks for doing this, I'm sure this will puppy will be highly sort after and I hope it will get on the Noobs list.
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TeX Dog

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PostPosted: Thu 03 Nov 2016, 11:32    Post subject:  

link crashes browser on this version of QX Crying or Very sad
https://www.rt.com/news/365164-assange-interview-wikileaks-russia/
Odd stuff like this has been going on for past few weeks does it work outside of USA? Shocked
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PostPosted: Thu 03 Nov 2016, 13:41    Post subject:  

'Fraid it you guys! Runs OK over here. Loads of my US colleagues have been complaining for a few weeks. I think another correspondent has mentioned it on this Forum in the last couple of days. Half-a-guess what the cause might be?!
Would be a superb, excellent idea to edit your profile to show your location!!!
Would be an even better idea to outlaw your Rep & Dem parties, abolish the banks, newsmedia, other abhorrent individuals, groups &&& and start all over again based on the Pilgrim Fathers' principles?
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BarryK
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PostPosted: Thu 03 Nov 2016, 20:00    Post subject:  

veronicathecow wrote:
Hi Barry, been away from Puppy for a while now. I just got a raspberry Pi 3 (don't know if you remember but I tried to arrange a free Pi for you when it started as I thought puppy would be perfect for the PI)
Wanted to say thanks for doing this, I'm sure this will puppy will be highly sort after and I hope it will get on the Noobs list.


Hi, I remember you! Welcome back.

Quirky 8.1 is like any first release, there are issues. 8.1.1 should be out soon, I am hoping in a few days.

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BarryK
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PostPosted: Thu 03 Nov 2016, 20:03    Post subject:  

TeX Dog wrote:
link crashes browser on this version of QX Crying or Very sad
https://www.rt.com/news/365164-assange-interview-wikileaks-russia/
Odd stuff like this has been going on for past few weeks does it work outside of USA? Shocked


There a quite a lot of sites that crash the ARM build of SeaMonkey.

Version 2.40 was released back in March. I was wondering why no releases after that, and started reading the SM forums.

SM is actually up to 2.46, however, they have some kind of problem that they have not been able to fix, hence no official releases.

I might have a go, download the latest source from their svn/git repo.

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BarryK
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PostPosted: Thu 03 Nov 2016, 20:09    Post subject:  

TeX Dog wrote:
I came here to escape U.S. election coverage, It is so beyond nasty.


Yeah, watching the occasional news report from the point of view of an outsider, it is deplorable.

One wonders what has happened to the USA. Where are those dignified, principled statesmen, like the founding fathers?

This post is OT, but anyway, this is a good read on the Founding Fathers:

https://www.britannica.com/topic/Founding-Fathers

So Abraham Lincoln is not one of them?

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dancytron

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PostPosted: Thu 03 Nov 2016, 20:35    Post subject:  

Lincoln was 80 years later ("4 score and 7 years ago").
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Olle

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PostPosted: Fri 04 Nov 2016, 01:20    Post subject: No flash for Raspberry and kernel 4.8
Subject description: Flash not available for ARM, ubuntu armhf kernel 4.8
 

BarryK wrote:
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Quirky 8.1 is like any first release, there are issues. 8.1.1 should be out soon, I am hoping in a few days.


Since no Adobe Flash is available for ARM, GetFlash could be removed from the Menu>Internet

I've tried Gnash, no success.

Kernel 4.8 is built for armhf:
http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/v4.8/


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zygo

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PostPosted: Fri 04 Nov 2016, 11:38    Post subject: Boot a RasPi 3, 2 or 1 from a USB device  

Pakt,

It seems you can boot a RasPi 3, 2 or 1 from a USB device using bootcode.bin-only boot mode.

https://www.raspberrypi.org/documentation/hardware/raspberrypi/bootmodes/

Saves on shuffling sd cards.
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TeX Dog

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PostPosted: Fri 04 Nov 2016, 11:48    Post subject: Re: Boot a RasPi 3, 2 or 1 from a USB device  

zygo wrote:
Pakt,

It seems you can boot a RasPi 3, 2 or 1 from a USB device using bootcode.bin-only boot mode.

https://www.raspberrypi.org/documentation/hardware/raspberrypi/bootmodes/

Saves on shuffling sd cards.


I tried multiple versions (dated from article release ) from that guys repo, never got to work.
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zygo

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PostPosted: Fri 04 Nov 2016, 13:05    Post subject: Two bootcode.bin files  

TeX Dog,

That's disappointing. Do you agree bootcode.bin is needed in the USB FAT32 partition (though it is not executed) along with the rest of the image files. Also that bootcode.bin should be simply copied from the current Raspbian download to the onboard SD card.

Anyway, they do point out that it doesn't wok on all drives. Sad
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TeX Dog

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PostPosted: Fri 04 Nov 2016, 16:40    Post subject:  

Yes, I expect that USB hardrive was too slow, now but I expect his bootcode.bin was a loader and was executed but not finding other files needed would chainload next bootcode.bin found.
The one after his post was much larger than ones before. I wanted to reuse old surplus (smallish by todays) v2 usb hardrives, not really was going to buy new faster usb flash just to test. Flash anything has a horrible track record in my day to day use.

Which makes me wonder how upgrades are done with QX on RPi? and with expanding ability of ext4 why is the image SO large 8G takes a long time to write and most is zeros. Someone online says this is only 400-500Mb uncompressed.
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zygo

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PostPosted: Fri 04 Nov 2016, 17:28    Post subject:  

Yes, use of old HDD would be another advantage to USB boot.

They should let you set the timeout to 99s. Have you tried non-Pi power for the HDD? eg powered hub or a Y-cable that some HDDs came with. You might get disc to spin-up before powering-up the Pi.
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pakt


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PostPosted: Fri 04 Nov 2016, 19:00    Post subject: Re: Boot a RasPi 3, 2 or 1 from a USB device  

zygo wrote:
Pakt,

It seems you can boot a RasPi 3, 2 or 1 from a USB device using bootcode.bin-only boot mode..

Yeah, running on my Pi3 right now that I booted from a USB stick (no SD card at all). Works really well Smile

In my post a few pages back I tried to explain how to do this, but I'm afraid I'm not too good at writing howtos.

The only drawback with booting directly via USB is the slight boot delay (~5s) while firmware waits for any USB device to be detected.

Otherwise my guess is that that loading programs and files from USB is at least as fast if not faster than from SD (haven't done any tests).

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PostPosted: Fri 04 Nov 2016, 19:09    Post subject: Re: Boot a RasPi 3, 2 or 1 from a USB device  

TeX Dog wrote:
zygo wrote:
Pakt,

It seems you can boot a RasPi 3, 2 or 1 from a USB device using bootcode.bin-only boot mode.

https://www.raspberrypi.org/documentation/hardware/raspberrypi/bootmodes/

Saves on shuffling sd cards.


I tried multiple versions (dated from article release ) from that guys repo, never got to work.

TeX, are you running on a Pi3? If so, you might see if you can follow my howto a few pages back on how I got mine booting directly from USB.

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