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Quirky Xerus 8.1.4 for Raspberry Pi2 and 3
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TeX Dog

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PostPosted: Sat 12 Nov 2016, 00:29    Post subject:    

This looks promising not that I understand it all but it seems like it would do what we want plus some web server access. its all wireless and acts as access point TO an access point which is even better than I wanted but may not be reading it right.
https://planb.nicecupoftea.org/2016/03/20/wifi-connect-quick-wifi-access-point-to-tell-a-raspberry-pi-about-a-wifi-network/
any thoughts? Stock Pi3 can due without extra hardware sweet
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PostPosted: Sat 12 Nov 2016, 05:20    Post subject:  

pakt wrote:
I think maybe Barry misunderstood: I'm after exactly the same functions as TeX Dog, ie, to be able to get the Pi2/3 to do X11 forwarding to my main PC.


Ah, the light comes on Smile

Maybe I should include dropbear in the next release of Quirky.

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PostPosted: Sat 12 Nov 2016, 07:57    Post subject:  

Any chance of getting xrdp in QuirkyPi as well? Then I could get the Quirky desktop using Remmina on my Linux Mint PC, avoiding eye strain problems I get with the old monitor I use for the Pi. This setup works well with Raspbian.

If you read my previous post, I almost got xrdp working in Quirky, but I'm seriously out of my depth in setting it up Rolling Eyes

The debian package that I took from Raspbian, xrdp_0.6.1-2+rpi1_armhf.deb, is just 195kB.

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PostPosted: Sat 12 Nov 2016, 12:10    Post subject:  

TightVNC now works on RaspBerry Pi read that on Raspbian new notes. I actually got that to work way back in v4.20 Which is still in use on a small tower used to capture OTA TV and part of my Pi Plan for future use. I.E. going to use a Pi as the Watt draw needed to keep a EnergySmart computer power supply 'alive' and use that to run my cabin 12v LED lights, wakeup main box when I want to record something seems like a win-win.
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PostPosted: Sat 12 Nov 2016, 12:45    Post subject:  

Here is how dropbear looks in the daemons list





I use dropbear, putty (a well-known Windows program) and xming to run the raspberry pi board from
a windows XP computer . Xming is called an X11 server
https://sourceforge.net/projects/xming/


Here is where describe it.
http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=913907#913907

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PostPosted: Sat 12 Nov 2016, 12:57    Post subject:  

@Don Yes that is the exact setup one of my coder jobs used, but how to do same linux (last time I let my WindowsOS free range the internet it ate a few Gs of bandwidth and choked itself with updates)
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PostPosted: Sat 12 Nov 2016, 13:48    Post subject:  

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@Don Yes that is the exact setup one of my coder jobs used, but how to do same linux (last time I let my WindowsOS free range the internet it ate a few Gs of bandwidth and choked itself with updates)


Barry will have to offer a tightvnc server package I assume. Rolling Eyes
I've never done it myself.
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PostPosted: Sat 12 Nov 2016, 14:37    Post subject:  

found this helpful
http://helpful.knobs-dials.com/index.php/Remote_desktops#The_short_version

This seems to be the preferred way linux to linux via JamesBond on another thread
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xpra
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PostPosted: Sat 12 Nov 2016, 18:17    Post subject:  

Thanks don570, ssh'ing into QuirkyPi using Dropbear turned out to be as easy as using ssh in Raspbian Razz

Here's how to connect to the Pi2/3 running Dropbear from a Linux PC (I'm using Linux Mint here, but works the same way in most distros):

- Open a terminal window on the Pi and run 'ifconfig' to get the IP address

- Open a terminal window on the Linux PC and run
Code:
# ssh -X 192.168.0.108 -l root

(change the IP address to the one you got from your Pi; and that's a lowercase 'L' not a 'one' after the minus sign)

- When it asks if you want to continue connecting, write 'yes'. It then asks for the password. It's 'woofwoof'.

You get a '#' prompt and you're in Cool

Now you can start the file manager like this
Code:
# rox &

Rox will open in a window on your PC.

(The '&' will start rox in the background and let you have control of the terminal back. That way you can start more programs from the same terminal)

For Seamonkey, just run
Code:
# seamonkey &

and the browser will open in another window on your PC.

As to my quest to run the whole Quirky desktop on my Linux PC, at least I can work on it from my PC now, using ssh Razz

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PostPosted: Sat 12 Nov 2016, 18:18    Post subject:  

TeX Dog wrote:
found this helpful
http://helpful.knobs-dials.com/index.php/Remote_desktops#The_short_version

This seems to be the preferred way linux to linux via JamesBond on another thread
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xpra

Interesting TeX Dog, I'll check it out. At the moment I'm looking at 'tightvncserver' and 'vnc4server'. I've already gotten the Debian packages from Raspbian. Just need to figure out how it all works Confused

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PostPosted: Mon 14 Nov 2016, 07:41    Post subject:  

pakt wrote:
Any chance of getting xrdp in QuirkyPi as well? Then I could get the Quirky desktop using Remmina on my Linux Mint PC, avoiding eye strain problems I get with the old monitor I use for the Pi. This setup works well with Raspbian.

If you read my previous post, I almost got xrdp working in Quirky, but I'm seriously out of my depth in setting it up Rolling Eyes

The debian package that I took from Raspbian, xrdp_0.6.1-2+rpi1_armhf.deb, is just 195kB.


Forum member gcmartin sent me an email recommending xrdp.

Had a quick squizzy at some docs for getting it going on ubuntu ...some references to systemd ....maybe I should compile the source.

Yeah, might do that tonight.

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PostPosted: Mon 14 Nov 2016, 11:43    Post subject:  

Just been running THIN-Slacko5.3.3t 99Mb .iso. Speed and content convinces well worth while producing these reduced-fat Puppies. Hope BK can find time to try this and spur him on to develop a THIN-Pi Quirky counterpart.
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PostPosted: Mon 14 Nov 2016, 15:38    Post subject:  

Sage wrote:
Just been running THIN-Slacko5.3.3t 99Mb .iso. Speed and content convinces well worth while producing these reduced-fat Puppies. Hope BK can find time to try this and spur him on to develop a THIN-Pi Quirky counterpart.

also noted the speed difference if he presorts file access, QXarm is very quick already but a factor of time improvement if files are already in the read-ahead buffers. Would like a smaller pre-package ext4 size, its can be expanded after so why the whole 8G, rewrites.
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PostPosted: Mon 14 Nov 2016, 17:11    Post subject:  

Well, I did get Tightvncserver configured and running finally Very Happy

Attached is a (tiny) screenshot from my dual-monitor Linux Mint setup with QuirkyPi taking up the whole left screen.

Tightvncserver is running from a terminal on my Pi3 using the command
Code:
tightvncserver -geometry 1920x1080 -depth 24 &

On the right screen, Remmina (Remote Desktop Client) is open, showing the settings (you'll need a more than a microscope to see them though Laughing )

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PostPosted: Mon 14 Nov 2016, 17:51    Post subject:  

Here are some screenshots of Remmina

http://www.remmina.org/wp/screenshots/

and xrdp

https://sourceforge.net/projects/xrdp/#screenshots

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