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"Send to trash" does not send to trash, it deletes
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kerl

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PostPosted: Tue 29 Nov 2016, 10:58    Post subject:  "Send to trash" does not send to trash, it deletes
Subject description: Trash is always empty
 

Shocked I've just noticed that whenever I delete files they don't go to trash. What's worse is that space in hard disk (personal storage) is not released!
I'm using Slacko 6.3.2

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bigpup


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PostPosted: Tue 29 Nov 2016, 11:06    Post subject:  

Normal operation for delete in Rox file manager.
Delete is just that, delete it's deleted.

To put something in trash.
Right click on item and select trash not delete.
Or drag item to the trash icon on desktop.
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What's worse is that space in hard disk (personal storage) is not released!

Is this after you reboot or actually make a save to the save file or folder?
Also, what you delete needs to be something of size to affect the save free space reading. That reading is a general size reading.

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kerl

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PostPosted: Tue 29 Nov 2016, 11:26    Post subject:  

Delete and sent to trash works the same. Sent to trash right-click menu does not sent anything to trash.
After a reboot the space is not released either.
The indicator on tray to resize your personal storage shows current available space.
Dropbox stops working due to lack of hdd space. Please help because I don't have infinite space Confused
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TeX Dog

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PostPosted: Tue 29 Nov 2016, 11:41    Post subject:  

lol yes wondered why that existed, never seemed functional, one last thing that never got implemented.. Embarassed
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kerl

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PostPosted: Tue 29 Nov 2016, 12:06    Post subject:  

My problem besides the trash issue is that hard drive space disappears!
This is what's happening: I deleted 500mb from my dropbox folder, then moved 500mb from a pendrive to dropbox folder, dropbox complained there was no space left on my harddrive, I checked traybar and decided to give my personal space 1gb more, the other day I did the same ( delete 500mb, move another 500mb from pendrive to puppy) and that's when I noticed that my Puppy was not releasing space when files are deleted by the user. WTF Shocked
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TeX Dog

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PostPosted: Tue 29 Nov 2016, 12:14    Post subject:  

If its a newer version puppy try save FOLDER. I have the same experience as you with same files.
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kerl

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PostPosted: Tue 29 Nov 2016, 12:25    Post subject:  

TeX Dog wrote:
If its a newer version puppy try save FOLDER. I have the same experience as you with same files.

Sorry I don't know what you mean..
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TeX Dog

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PostPosted: Tue 29 Nov 2016, 14:41    Post subject:  

newer versions of puppy can use a folder/directory in a hard drive as a save-file without restrictions of a pre-sized limited save-file. Its limited by size of space. files saved are individual and can be truly deleted.
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kerl

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PostPosted: Tue 29 Nov 2016, 15:04    Post subject:  

Hi TeX Dog,

Which hard drive? I can't only see partitions. You mean Sda1 where Windows are installed? Do you mean using folders outside Puppy's partition?
is this a bug, right?

As for the loss of space on my personal storage where Puppy is located, where all this lost space gone when I deleted files? Can this unused space be recovered? is there a fix for Slacko 6.3.2 to download from somewhere?
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PostPosted: Tue 29 Nov 2016, 16:20    Post subject:  

If you use a savefile and send something to trash, the data will be recorded in your savefile (this is because the trash folder is situated under /root of the running system and linked to the savefile). To release the data from trash (and from your savefile), you need to delete it from trash. If you use a savefolder, all changes are saved to a partition directly, the whole partition is available and there are no size issues like using a savefile. You need to have a linux partition to use a savefolder.
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kerl

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PostPosted: Tue 29 Nov 2016, 16:28    Post subject:  

I deleted files but their space was not released for the sfs. So if I keep deleting files I'll end up without space in the sfs Exclamation
Can you confirm this bug?
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PostPosted: Tue 29 Nov 2016, 16:34    Post subject:  

I presume you are using a savefile. A savefile is not an sfs file but a file which has its own linux filesystem inside and its file extension will be either .2fs, .3fs or .4fs. When you create the savefile, you decide which size it should be. Now let's say you create one with the size of 1GB. In this case the savefile will occupy 1 GB of space on your partition (whatever the storage media you may use). It does not matter how much of the 1GB you use, it's a file and will occupy 1GB on your partition. Any changes (data addages or data deletions) occurring in the running filesystem (under /) will be reccorded in the savefile and will determine how much space is left in the savefile (not your partition because the savefile is just a file, 1GB in this instance, on your partition). See the savefile as an extension of the base sfs to record changes. So when you boot up the contents of your base sfs plus the contents of your savefile will form your running filesystem (/). The base sfs and savefile are just two files on your partition but when booted up is your puppy operating system.
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kerl

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PostPosted: Tue 29 Nov 2016, 17:32    Post subject:  

nic007, yes I meant a .2fs savefile.
Anyway, if I delete files there is no space freed. This is obviously wrong!

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PostPosted: Tue 29 Nov 2016, 18:52    Post subject:  

TeX Dog wrote:
lol yes wondered why that existed, never seemed functional, one last thing that never got implemented.. Embarassed

Why don't you implement it, Tex?
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PostPosted: Tue 29 Nov 2016, 18:57    Post subject:  

Kerl, you may be barking up the wrong tree. You don't have to spend a lot of time online viewing videos and the like for your browser's cache to fill up your Save file. Try using Menu -> Filesystem -> Gdmap graphical disk usage to find what's filling up your Save file.
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