Fatdog64-710 Final [4 Dec 2016]

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#616 Post by dr. Dan »

@jamesbond

thanks for the quick response!
rcrsn51 prefers that people get the official version directly from him.
In that case, some kind of note to users having problems including a link to that information could be helpful. Like I wrote, I am not having problems, and don't need to use it, but there have been several comments from frustrated users who might benefit from the option.
The suspend/wakeup script is located at /etc/acpi/actions/suspend.sh. The default contents stops network before suspend, and re-starts it after resume. If network doesn't work well after resume, it might well be the network driver. The usual suggested approach is to unload the network driver ("rmmod module-name") and load it again after suspend.
Thank you! I have attempted to do that, and will hope for good results! Much searching had not previously found specific useful information, only advice to "add a hook."

One more bit of information for the help file: Deleting a network from the manage networks tab of wpa-gui seems to cause issues. Perhaps there is some improvement coming in the next version, but if the issue remains, a note to the user to open the Network drop-down list, select "Select any Network", then click File>Save Configuration (Ctrl+S) after deleting a network might save someone some hassle.
Network Wizard was meant for fallback for functions that wasn't supported by wpa-gui: wired ethernet and static IPs. In the upcoming release, both of these functions are now handled by wpa-gui directly. The only reason to use Network Wizard is that if you want to run a terminal-based network manager.
This seems good.

Thanks!

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Re: Networking

#617 Post by step »

dr. Dan wrote:click File>Save Configuration (Ctrl+S)
I added a prominent note about remembering to Ctrl+S after any configuration changes. Thank you.
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#618 Post by prehistoric »

Any word on updating to Firefox 57, released November 14, 2017?

I believe this breaks the assumptions used in running as spot, plus those in the update script, due to new restrictions on writing to system files in Linux versions.

I'm sticking with Firefox 56.0.3 and Google_Chrome-11122017 (64-bit), but would like to know what happens next.

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#619 Post by jamesbond »

prehistoric wrote:Any word on updating to Firefox 57, released November 14, 2017?
I just tried. Use the updated update-firefox.sh script (not available yet - will be in next release), it automatically installs gtk3 and libapulse. Launch browser, save file to /home/spot, works. Play youtube, also works (all as user spot).
I believe this breaks the assumptions used in running as spot, plus those in the update script, due to new restrictions on writing to system files in Linux versions.
Only tested for 2 minutes. It works. By the way, next release will have a big change for spot - it's home no longer in /root/spot. It will move to /home/spot.

cheers!
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#620 Post by prehistoric »

jamesbond wrote:...Use the updated update-firefox.sh script (not available yet - will be in next release), it automatically installs gtk3 and libapulse...
Grrrr. No problem with gtk3 and libapulse, but I need that updated update-firefox.sh. (I don't trust myself anymore to make significant changes to scripts. Too many implicit assumptions to discover.)

It's time for me to build a new installation from scratch anyway. Several experiments have damaged the one I'm using at the moment.

I'll wait on the new improved fatdog. Also looking to try Gimp 2.9.6, for increased color depth and wavelet decomposition, though that branch is still not stable. Parallel processing remains problematic.
I'm expecting to see 2.8.22 in fatdog.

Looking like we will all be forced to move to gtk3 in a year or so.

I am dangerously close to building yet another power computer when component prices fall after Christmas.

(Why? I don't know. Just curious. My Raspberry Pi would do most of what I need.)

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#621 Post by jamesbond »

prehistoric wrote:Grrrr. No problem with gtk3 and libapulse, but I need that updated update-firefox.sh. (I don't trust myself anymore to make significant changes to scripts. Too many implicit assumptions to discover.)
Of course you can have it. It's attached (remove the fake-gz extension). Please test it by running in a sandbox.
I'll wait on the new improved fatdog. Also looking to try Gimp 2.9.6, for increased color depth and wavelet decomposition, though that branch is still not stable.
16-bit colour depth will be welcome, so is a "effect" layer (instead of having to bake it the effect into the layer immediately). Oh well, it will get there when it gets there.
I'm expecting to see 2.8.22 in fatdog.
Yes, this the version that comes in next release.
Looking like we will all be forced to move to gtk3 in a year or so.
We had a discussion whether to have gtk3 in the base, or not yet. We're trying to hold off as much as we can. We alreaady have gtk2 and qt5 in the base ....
(Why? I don't know. Just curious. My Raspberry Pi would do most of what I need.)
Build it and they will come :lol:
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#622 Post by prehistoric »

Thanks jamesbond,

Now posting from a separate Fatdog 710 installation using Firefox 57.0.

So far, so good. However, this appears to stop me from using NoScript.

(Yes, I know about enabling legacy extensions. I'm waiting for the Quantum version release as a pure extension, not playing software Jenga by stacking unstable releases.)

As always with software, it takes all the running you can do to stay in one place.

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#623 Post by prehistoric »

jamesbond wrote:...Build it and they will come :lol:
Sounds like a house of ill-repute, which resembles what some women have said about my workshop, though I'm sure they were thinking of a different kind of establishment than I was.

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GUI user feedback

#624 Post by dr. Dan »

Hello, Fatdog64 team.

In keeping with its Puppy roots, Fatdog64 is a friendly OS. I have made minor adjustments to improve my user experience, and you might find them useful as well.
I have previously submitted some color scheme changes for the panel to coordinate with Smokey01's theme. These new ones are related to the Control Panel, enlarging windows to give a better view where it had been too small. The changes are listed in the attached .txt file, and anyone could easily make the changes to his own existing files.
I would adjust Nathan Wallpaper Switcher to enlarge parts of the main interface, but it is beyond my current knowledge.

Thanks as always.
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#625 Post by fatdog »

Fatdog64-720 Beta is released.

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#626 Post by s243a »

prehistoric wrote:Thanks jamesbond,

Now posting from a separate Fatdog 710 installation using Firefox 57.0.

So far, so good. However, this appears to stop me from using NoScript.

(Yes, I know about enabling legacy extensions. I'm waiting for the Quantum version release as a pure extension, not playing software Jenga by stacking unstable releases.)

As always with software, it takes all the running you can do to stay in one place.
Maybe run noscript on palemoon or seamonkey then? As an aside Quantum works exceptionally well on fatdog64.

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#627 Post by s243a »

prehistoric wrote:Thanks jamesbond,

Now posting from a separate Fatdog 710 installation using Firefox 57.0.

So far, so good. However, this appears to stop me from using NoScript.

(Yes, I know about enabling legacy extensions. I'm waiting for the Quantum version release as a pure extension, not playing software Jenga by stacking unstable releases.)

As always with software, it takes all the running you can do to stay in one place.
No Script now works on Firefox Quantum.

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#628 Post by Gobbi »

I found in the kernels/710/ directory from the repository the kernel-modules.sfs-4.14.12 , vmlinuz-4.14.12 and microcode-update-20180111.cpio , which I presume could be used to update the kernel .
I know what to do with the first two , but I don't know how to implement microcode-update-20180111.cpio . Could anybody give me a hint :?:

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#629 Post by step »

Directory kernels/710 is symlinked from kernels/720. microcode update is a feature for Fatdog64 721. It's discussed starting from the sixth paragraph of the 72x release announcement.
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#630 Post by Gobbi »

Thank's step :!:
So , I'll have to jump to the Fatdog64-721 train ... :)

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#631 Post by s243a »

Anyone know how to use three monitors on Fatdog710? I can only get two working.

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#632 Post by don570 »

Dropbear uses the network to show fatdog screen to stranger , but that
probably isn't what you want.
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#633 Post by smokey01 »

s243a wrote:Anyone know how to use three monitors on Fatdog710? I can only get two working.
Do you have three video outputs on your graphics card? Is so they should be detected. I have DVI, VGA and HDMI. Zarfy shows me all three although I'm not using the HDMI output.

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Stuck on make Install command.

#634 Post by amn87 »

I am not able to get "make install" command working. All dependencies are already installed. I am trying to share my USB LTE modem's connection to my Android phone. It works in Windows 7.Have attached a screenshot. Would appreciate any help. Thanks.
stemsee wrote:Hi

I have spent sometime searching for a solution to sharing internet on FD. i found a solution on github that worked first time! It's called create_ap-master.

Unzip and cd into the create_ap-master directory checkout the readme and install the dependencies. Then 'make install'. In term type 'create_ap' to see a list of commands for a variety of hotspot modes.

I used and tested

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create_ap wlan0 wlan0 stemsee 66669999
What this does is create a wifi hotspot (AP) using the same device which connects to the internet. Laptop and android devices have internet!
i am using a usb dongle.

Must have a wifi card that supports master mode.

Might be a worthy addition to FD.
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#635 Post by dancytron »

amn87,

You didn't say whether you had the devx sfs installed. If not, that is where Puppy (and Fatdog) keeps all the tools for compiling.

Not sure if you are using 710 or 720 (I haven't kept up with last few months of changes), but the sfs file you need is here.

http://distro.ibiblio.org/fatdog/sfs/720/

If you need help with how to use sfs files, look here:

http://distro.ibiblio.org/fatdog/web/ about 2/3's down the page.

Dan

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