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OscarTalks


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PostPosted: Tue 28 Feb 2017, 17:13    Post subject:  

Does anybody understand about these stock gtk icons because one of the things I would like to resolve is the 2 missing icons (for Save All and Build) in the toolbar in Geany? This gets reported as errors in the log and Geany is a program which gets used a lot by many folks I am sure.

EDIT:- OK I tried compiling from source and that seems to fix it but now that I see the package structure it looks like the icons may be missing because they are in the package geany-common which is not installed.

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PostPosted: Tue 28 Feb 2017, 18:14    Post subject:  

OscarTalks wrote:
Does anybody understand about these stock gtk icons because one of the things I would like to resolve is the 2 missing icons (for Save All and Build) in the toolbar in Geany? This gets reported as errors in the log and Geany is a program which gets used a lot by many folks I am sure.

here you go Smile
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PostPosted: Tue 28 Feb 2017, 18:24    Post subject:  

ttuuxxx wrote:
anikin wrote:
ttuuxxx et al,

There's some ambiguity in the thread title. *Debian Stretch and Devuan Ascii Development* is one thing. Building Puppies based on Debian Stretch and Devuan Ascii is a totally different ball of wax.

I added 'Woof CE' No room to added any more to title.
Hi, ttuuxxx.

Euh... Perhaps you did not notice: there is a line for a sub-title
if you need or wish to use it.

Also xerrs.log has asked me to thank you warmly for the geany icons!
Much appreciated. Smile

BFN.

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PostPosted: Tue 28 Feb 2017, 18:40    Post subject:  

musher0 wrote:
ttuuxxx wrote:
anikin wrote:
ttuuxxx et al,

There's some ambiguity in the thread title. *Debian Stretch and Devuan Ascii Development* is one thing. Building Puppies based on Debian Stretch and Devuan Ascii is a totally different ball of wax.

I added 'Woof CE' No room to added any more to title.
Hi, ttuuxxx.

Euh... Perhaps you did not notice: there is a line for a sub-title
if you need or wish to use it.

Also xerrs.log has asked me to thank you warmly for the geany icons!
Much appreciated. Smile

BFN.

Your welcome Smile
I was going to work out the icon issues later on, once we get a bit further down the road, but since there was a request figured why not Smile
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PostPosted: Tue 28 Feb 2017, 19:00    Post subject:  

Thanks for the fix. You posted while I was editing my post above. At least I have now compiled Geany for the first time even though it turns out I didn't need to.

I have also compiled GTK hash as well as installing pupMD5sum. I added pProcess from Zigbert as I always like to have that in there. Upgraded sfs_load to 3.0.3 as there may have been some fixes or improvements.

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PostPosted: Tue 28 Feb 2017, 23:47    Post subject: Woof CE Debian Stretch and Devuan Ascii Based Development  

I did a new install:

System: Host: puppypc17935 Kernel: 4.1.30 i686 (32 bit) Desktop: Openbox 3.6.1 Distro: Dpup Stretch 7.0.0a1
Machine: Device: desktop System: Compaq-Presario product: AU194AA-A2L CQ5123F serial: MXX9300M0F
Mobo: MSI model: Boston v: 1.0 BIOS: Phoenix v: 5.24 date: 06/19/2009
CPU: Dual core Pentium E5200 (-MCP-) speed/max: 2000/2500 MHz
Graphics: Card: NVIDIA GF108 [GeForce GT 430]
Display Server: X.org 1.19.1 drivers: nouveau (unloaded: modesetting,fbdev,vesa)
tty size: 119x40 Advanced Data: N/A for root
Network: Card-1: Realtek RTL8101/2/6E PCI Express Fast/Gigabit Ethernet controller driver: r8169
Card-2: D-Link System AirPlus G DWL-G122 Wireless Adapter(rev.C1) [Ralink RT2571W] driver: rt73usb
Drives: HDD Total Size: 500.1GB (9.4% used)
Weather: Conditions: 48 F (9 C) - Overcast Time: February 28, 10:20 PM EST
Info: Processes: 140 Uptime: 57 min Memory: 151.0/4036.0MB Client: Shell (bash) inxi: 2.3.5

You don't get to choose kernels when building Dpup Stretch 7.0.0a1 but
I've managed to install Kernel: 4.1.30 i686 (32 bit).

It's working okay so far.

Installed kodi,smplayer,smtube,and firefox with PPM.

Also loaded google_earth-7.1.1.1888.sfs and LibreOffice-5.3.0_en-US_xz.sfs
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PostPosted: Wed 01 Mar 2017, 00:32    Post subject: Re: Woof CE Debian Stretch and Devuan Ascii Based Development  

Billtoo wrote:
(...) You don't get to choose kernels when building Dpup Stretch 7.0.0a1 but
I've managed to install Kernel: 4.1.30 i686 (32 bit).

It's working okay so far. (...)

S..t, Billtoo, you don't know your strength or you're too modest or
something!!! Or you ate lots of spinach today? Laughing

A second kernel. Wow!

Could you please explain how it's done? Drop-in replacement? New iso?
How do you do that?!

Does that mean that this Dpup stretch-7 could be offered with a choice
of two kernels?

Congratulations!

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PostPosted: Wed 01 Mar 2017, 01:12    Post subject: Re: Woof CE Debian Stretch and Devuan Ascii Based Development  

musher0 wrote:

Could you please explain how it's done? Drop-in replacement? New iso?


I took the vmlinuz and zdrv_tahr_6.0.6.sfs from a tahr-6.0.6-uefi.iso.
The initrd.gz and puppy_stretch_7.0.0a1.sfs from a stretch-7.0.0a1.iso
and put them in a folder,renamed the zdrv_tahr_6.0.6.sfs and ran
grub4dos.

There's already a FrankenPup so it's FrankenPup-II I guess Smile
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PostPosted: Wed 01 Mar 2017, 02:21    Post subject:  

Thanks for the explanation, Billtoo.

@all

I managed to put together a python package for the most recent
RedNotebook-1-15, published mid-February, for our DpupStretch-7,
in the form of an sfs.

Speaking of Frankenstein methodology: all the libs were meant for
Debian's copy, which is RedNotebook-1.10, but I substituted version 1.15.
(hehe)

Edit:
As a note to jlst and other persons in charge of the woof-CE, I had to
put together this sfs manually because the PPM does not offer the
RedNotebook application. However it is listed in the Debian sid repos if
you go there directly: https://packages.debian.org/sid/rednotebook.
I'm not throwing any blame at anyone here. This is just an observation
I'm sharing, which may or not be of interest to the woof-CE managers.


If someone could kindly try this sfs? It's here:
https://my.pcloud.com/publink/show?code=XZNkpqZ7sPrraMIy8JrcgCJoiP6YzYqdISV

A pet archive of it is working fine on my box, but I'd like confirmation
from at least another Puppyist before declaring success.

The help file won't load, but it's there, in /root/.rednotebook/tmp, if you
care to read it. Very strange place. I certainly wouldn't have put a help
file there!

My initial impression is that it's a weaker outliner than notecase, but I
haven't put RedNotebook through any hoops or loops. "Walk 100 miles in
someone's shoes before judging him/her", as the saying goes, so my
judgment on RedNotebook is suspended -- until further experience of it,
mine and others', has built up.

Any constructive criticism appreciated.

TIA. BFN.
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PostPosted: Wed 01 Mar 2017, 05:57    Post subject:  

ttuuxxx wrote:
OscarTalks wrote:
Does anybody understand about these stock gtk icons because one of the things I would like to resolve is the 2 missing icons (for Save All and Build) in the toolbar in Geany? This gets reported as errors in the log and Geany is a program which gets used a lot by many folks I am sure.

here you go Smile


(Disclaimer: This is not directed to ttuuxxx in any way. He just provided the opportunity with this post)

This is one way to go about it.
However, it might be better to just edit the geany template in woof-ce to include these icons.
The trimming through packages-templates is usually the case when files from a distro package are not present in a puppy build.
To minimise size BK cherry-picked files and folders from the distro packages through "packages-templates".
As packages change templates may need to be updated too as in this case where you also need /usr/share/icons/hicolor/16x16/actions
Newer puppies may use packages that do not have a template resulting in bigger builds. People interested in minimising size may look at it.
On the other hand people interested in maximum compatibility (and size) may bypass trimming altogether (look at the 2createpackages script)

In general would be a good idea changes and fixes to be at the (local) woof level and (eventually) go back to woof-ce, so the next person can take advantage of them as we all do from the work that went already there.

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PostPosted: Wed 01 Mar 2017, 09:44    Post subject: Re: Woof CE Debian Stretch and Devuan Ascii Based Development  

Billtoo wrote:
musher0 wrote:

Could you please explain how it's done? Drop-in replacement? New iso?


I took the vmlinuz and zdrv_tahr_6.0.6.sfs from a tahr-6.0.6-uefi.iso.
The initrd.gz and puppy_stretch_7.0.0a1.sfs from a stretch-7.0.0a1.iso
and put them in a folder,renamed the zdrv_tahr_6.0.6.sfs and ran
grub4dos.

There's already a FrankenPup so it's FrankenPup-II I guess Smile



Hot dang, that was one frustrating question I had why we were locked into 3.14.79 kernel (though I'm not complaining, as that kernel works well on all old ^& new machines I have). Way to go, Bill!!!

On Notecase, glad you got it working, Musher! I was on the road for the past two days, and now I'm back home I can give some stuff a go. Glad the Notecase is resolved. Also, good job on the Abiword....I'm still debating whether to go the whole hog way of Libre- or Open- Office, or just stick to Abiword.

@Oscar, thanks for the directions on the jwmrc-tray. As far as Geany icons, dang, I didn't even notice they were missing, lol, until now & just looking at them. Thanks, Tttuuxxx for the fix!


Ok, I've got a question for you all, that I've never asked before, but I am sure there is an easy answer and I've been too dumb to figure it out: why is it that in URXVT terminal emulator, you can not copy and/or paste code to and/or from it? Drives me nuts, in all pups with URXVT. Like when I want to post something to this board from URXVT when something happens, and I cannot copy it. What am I doing wrong or how to do it?? I am glad we have 'lxterminal' available in this dpup-stretch, because copy and pasting to/from it is no problem. But does or has URXVT had this capability all this time & I haven't figured it out? Thanks!!
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PostPosted: Wed 01 Mar 2017, 10:39    Post subject:  

ttuuxxx wrote:
OscarTalks wrote:
Does anybody understand about these stock gtk icons because one of the things I would like to resolve is the 2 missing icons (for Save All and Build) in the toolbar in Geany? This gets reported as errors in the log and Geany is a program which gets used a lot by many folks I am sure.

here you go Smile



Hi Tuuxxx et al,

Ok, here's the problem with .jwmrc I've been mentioning several times now:

1) I just downloaded ttuuxxx's geanyicons.pet fix. (same thing will happen if I download/compile/install anything and/or if I also installing anything from PPM)

2) I install it (or 'whatever')

3) As soon as the install completes, .jwmrc reverts back to the 'build-settings' that has all the icons missing from "Menu" (that I mentioned in the other thread----I assume we all see this with a new build):

For the main 'Categories" in Menu:
--Desktop
--System
--Utility
--Fun
--Exit

For items in the overall Categories, these also are missing:
System----->Task Manager
Utility-------->PBackup and Sync
Utility-------->URXVT Terminal Emulator
File------------>File Manager PCManFM
File------------>Gdmap Graphical Disk Usage
Graphic----->PeasyScale JPEG Resizer
Graphic----->Screeny Capture Windows & Fullscreen
Business--->Xcalc Scientific Calculator
Network----->PcurlFTP file sharing
Internet----->HexChat
Internet----->Ssh-gui secure remote login
Multimedia->Pcdripper CD song ripper
Multimedia->Pmetatagger audio file tag editor
Multimedia->Retrovol sound mixer


4) WHY? Despite me saving a new .jwmrc and having no "old" .jwnrc (remember, the 'jwmrc-previous' already has the corrected info) I can see anywhere in .root, how can this behavior be happening? More importantly, how do I stop it. As it stands, every time this happens, I have to go into .root, open the .jwmrc-previous (there is no .jwmrc original), copy everything (all the corrections I made overcoming the above problems), and then re-copy this back into the ".jwmrc. Then, lastly, I've got to restart the windown manager via the tray, and everything will be re-set to how I changed it.

Anyone?? Even my savefile has my corrected .jwmrc in it. How can Rox be pulling the 'build .jwmrc' when it no longer exists in .root? Could it be located somewhere else???? It's definitely not in the ~/.jwm folder. And there's nothing in the /etc/jwm folder except the needed 'system.jwmrc' file. So, I'm confused..... Confused
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PostPosted: Wed 01 Mar 2017, 11:17    Post subject: Any fix for what the PPM GUI shows?  

Also, I know it's not important, but has anyone been able to fix this since I (and Musher) mentioned it back in the woof-CE thread? Every single item you search for in PPM shows it as "ALREADY INSTALLED". Here's an example for VLC, which is nowhere in this build:
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PostPosted: Wed 01 Mar 2017, 12:32    Post subject:  

I compiled pmcputemp but there are a few problems with it.
When I open the information windows for Version and Sensors they open, but when I try to close them they don't close on first click and on second click pmcputemp crashes. Perhaps this is a compatibility issue with the recent JWM because it does not happen in my earlier Puppies?

By the way, the pmcputemp in petbuilds is version 50 but git gives me version 67 which is the one I have been using.

@ belham2
I think it is more of a problem because we are developing, JWM restores backups that we have already ditched. Because I remaster my main .sfs as I go along I can always copy my latest JWM config files out of /initrd/pup_ro2 and restart WM or X and this brings all my fixes back in an instant. I also had this problem today when JWM tried to send me back in time.

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PostPosted: Wed 01 Mar 2017, 14:20    Post subject:  

belham2 wrote:


Hi Tuuxxx et al,

Ok, here's the problem with .jwmrc I've been mentioning several times now:

1) I just downloaded ttuuxxx's geanyicons.pet fix. (same thing will happen if I download/compile/install anything and/or if I also installing anything from PPM)

2) I install it (or 'whatever')

3) As soon as the install completes, .jwmrc reverts back to the 'build-settings' that has all the icons missing from "Menu" (that I mentioned in the other thread----I assume we all see this with a new build):

For the main 'Categories" in Menu:
--Desktop
--System
--Utility
--Fun
--Exit

For items in the overall Categories, these also are missing:
System----->Task Manager
Utility-------->PBackup and Sync
Utility-------->URXVT Terminal Emulator
File------------>File Manager PCManFM
File------------>Gdmap Graphical Disk Usage
Graphic----->PeasyScale JPEG Resizer
Graphic----->Screeny Capture Windows & Fullscreen
Business--->Xcalc Scientific Calculator
Network----->PcurlFTP file sharing
Internet----->Hex Chat
Internet----->Ssh-gui secure remote login
Multimedia->Pcdripper CD song ripper
Multimedia->Pmetatagger audio file tag editor
Multimedia->Retrovol sound mixer


4) WHY? Despite me saving a new .jwmrc and having no "old" .jwnrc (remember, the 'jwmrc-previous' already has the corrected info) I can see anywhere in .root, how can this behavior be happening? More importantly, how do I stop it. As it stands, every time this happens, I have to go into .root, open the .jwmrc-previous (there is no .jwmrc original), copy everything (all the corrections I made overcoming the above problems), and then re-copy this back into the ".jwmrc. Then, lastly, I've got to restart the windown manager via the tray, and everything will be re-set to how I changed it.

Anyone?? Even my savefile has my corrected .jwmrc in it. How can Rox be pulling the 'build .jwmrc' when it no longer exists in .root? Could it be located somewhere else???? It's definitely not in the ~/.jwm folder. And there's nothing in the /etc/jwm folder except the needed 'system.jwmrc' file. So, I'm confused..... Confused
Yes its somewhere else its in a few locations the .jwmrc is just a temporary file that is over written everytime you fixmenus and restart jwm.
Here's a fix for the 5 main icons in the menu. I also made a location for you to add some fixes Smile, figured let you have have a swing at the easy ones Smile, basically you'll need to go to usr/share/applications and open the files like Hexchat and locate the icons and make sure the full path to the icon is there, then add it to this pet, I already made the directory structure in the pet, just drop the updated files and rebuild the pet. Anyways I did the hardest ones the five I did, one was a file and the other are share links, basically wrong file names/icon sizes.
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