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Billtoo


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PostPosted: Mon 17 Apr 2017, 10:48    Post subject: Woof CE Debian Stretch and Devuan Ascii Based Development  

I did another build, this one is using the 3.16.43 kernel compiled with
the kernel kit.

# inxi -b
System: Host: puppypc22402 Kernel: 3.16.43-4g i686 (32 bit) Desktop: JWM 2.3.6 Distro: Dpup Stretch 7.0.0a1
Machine: Device: desktop System: Hewlett-Packard product: p7-1246s serial:
Mobo: Foxconn model: 2ADA v: 1.00 BIOS: AMI v: 7.12 date: 06/07/2012
CPU: Quad core Intel Core i5-3550 (-MCP-) speed/max: 1600/3301 MHz
Graphics: Card: NVIDIA GF108 [GeForce GT 430]
Display Server: X.org 1.19.2 driver: nvidia tty size: 132x42 Advanced Data: N/A for root
Network: Card-1: Ralink RT5390 Wireless 802.11n 1T/1R PCIe driver: rt2800pci
Card-2: Realtek RTL8111/8168/8411 PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet Controller driver: r8169
Drives: HDD Total Size: 3000.6GB (1.1% used)
Info: Processes: 134 Uptime: 36 min Memory: 187.1/3515.4MB Client: Shell (bash) inxi: 2.3.5
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The proprietary Nvidia driver is installed.

All installed applications show up as shared libs, kodi,vlc, etc work
well.
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rufwoof

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PostPosted: Mon 17 Apr 2017, 11:43    Post subject:  

I've seen a few desktop pictures like yours Billtoo, extra wide. Is that because you have a extra wide monitor/resolution (3200x900 perhaps)? Looks like it from your 4 desktops in the desktop pager.
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PostPosted: Mon 17 Apr 2017, 11:57    Post subject:  

rufwoof wrote:
I've seen a few desktop pictures like yours Billtoo, extra wide. Is that because you have a extra wide monitor/resolution (3200x900 perhaps)? Looks like it from your 4 desktops in the desktop pager.



Hi,

I'm using 2 monitors, configured with arandr.
JWM defaults to 4 desktops, I just now changed the setting to 2 virtual
desktops.
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PostPosted: Mon 17 Apr 2017, 13:25    Post subject:  

Thanks
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musher0


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PostPosted: Mon 17 Apr 2017, 14:08    Post subject:  

OscarTalks wrote:
Stll experimenting with manually remastering the version posted some time ago.
Some people have commented about JWM
I have always liked it.
The configuration methods are changed in these recent JWM versions
Some of the tags are different so the jwmrc-theme file and also the jwmrc template file in /etc/xdg/templates need modification. Not sure if this has been done in WoofCE yet.
Use jwm -p to test for config errors.

Dpup Stretch has JWM 2.3.6 which is latest release but I have compiled snapshot 1592 which is 2.3.7 dev.

I did some corrections and tweaks to the DeepBlueBold theme which was the only one included in the .iso and I implemented the decorations="motif" attribute which gives it a look which some may find quite elegant.
Such patience you have with jwm, OscarTalks... Laughing
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PostPosted: Mon 17 Apr 2017, 18:10    Post subject:  

Hi Billtoo.

Where did you find that 3.14.63 kernel for the Puppy Stretch, please? I
couldn't find it in the "huge-kernels" section at ibblio.

Also, I just built the newer Puppy Stretch, like you did, and it seems to offer
only the 4.1.38 kernel.

Thanks in advance.

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PostPosted: Mon 17 Apr 2017, 19:04    Post subject:  

musher0 wrote:
Hi Billtoo.

Where did you find that 3.14.63 kernel for the Puppy Stretch, please? I
couldn't find it in the "huge-kernels" section at ibblio.

Also, I just built the newer Puppy Stretch, like you did, and it seems to offer
only the 4.1.38 kernel.

Thanks in advance.


You need to compile it with the kernel kit, I'll attach my build.conf to save you some time.
Once it has created the woof-CE/kernel-kit/output/huge-3.16.43-stretch.tar.bz2 put it in the huge_kernel folder and when you get to the ./3builddistro step it will use it, if there are more it will be among those that you can choose from.

The gz is a fake, just rename it.
It will also compile the kernel source sfs and a kernel modules file that I rename to fdrv_stretch_i686.sfs

Edit: you'll see j6 in the build.conf when I'm using my dual core compaq I set that to j2
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PostPosted: Mon 17 Apr 2017, 19:53    Post subject:  

Billtoo wrote:
You need to compile it with the kernel kit

Hello Billtoo,

The Stretch remaster that I am tinkering with and is working very well is based on the one you posted with the 3.14.79 kernel.

Do you by any chance have the kernel sources for this?
It might be nice to see if I can at least compile ndiswrapper for example.

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Billtoo


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PostPosted: Mon 17 Apr 2017, 19:58    Post subject:  

OscarTalks wrote:
Billtoo wrote:
You need to compile it with the kernel kit

Hello Billtoo,

The Stretch remaster that I am tinkering with and is working very well is based on the one you posted with the 3.14.79 kernel.

Do you by any chance have the kernel sources for this?
It might be nice to see if I can at least compile ndiswrapper for example.


Hi,

I did 3.16.43, that's the LTS kernel that's good until 2020 or so.

I think you can get the 3.14.79 kernel sources from ttuuxxx.
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PostPosted: Mon 17 Apr 2017, 20:06    Post subject:  

Billtoo wrote:
musher0 wrote:
Hi Billtoo.

Where did you find that 3.14.63 kernel for the Puppy Stretch, please? I
couldn't find it in the "huge-kernels" section at ibblio.

Also, I just built the newer Puppy Stretch, like you did, and it seems to offer
only the 4.1.38 kernel.

Thanks in advance.


You need to compile it with the kernel kit, I'll attach my build.conf to save you some time.
Once it has created the woof-CE/kernel-kit/output/huge-3.16.43-stretch.tar.bz2 put it in the huge_kernel folder and when you get to the ./3builddistro step it will use it, if there are more it will be among those that you can choose from.

The gz is a fake, just rename it.
It will also compile the kernel source sfs and a kernel modules file that I rename to fdrv_stretch_i686.sfs

Edit: you'll see j6 in the build.conf when I'm using my dual core compaq I set that to j2

I'm always learning, I guess. Thanks Billtoo.

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PostPosted: Mon 17 Apr 2017, 20:24    Post subject:  

Billtoo wrote:
I did 3.16.43, that's the LTS kernel that's good until 2020 or so. I think you can get the 3.14.79 kernel sources from ttuuxxx.


Maybe I am getting confused. I thought the one I am using is the one in your smokey01.com/Bill2 repo, posted on 25th Feb. Is that one 3.16.43 ?

I thought the first one I tried was an early ttuuxxx but it had the permissions issue so I grabbed your one. Have you never done a 3.14.79 Stretch? I can't see anything 3.14.79 in ttuuxxx's repo, only 4.1.38

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PostPosted: Mon 17 Apr 2017, 20:44    Post subject:  

OscarTalks wrote:
Billtoo wrote:
I did 3.16.43, that's the LTS kernel that's good until 2020 or so. I think you can get the 3.14.79 kernel sources from ttuuxxx.


Maybe I am getting confused. I thought the one I am using is the one in your smokey01.com/Bill2 repo, posted on 25th Feb. Is that one 3.16.43 ?

I thought the first one I tried was an early ttuuxxx but it had the permissions issue so I grabbed your one. Have you never done a 3.14.79 Stretch? I can't see anything 3.14.79 in ttuuxxx's repo, only 4.1.38


Sorry, I'd forgotten about the one on Smokey01 server, I've done at least 14 builds with various kernels but that's the only one that I posted and I don't have the kernel sources for it.
I'm pretty sure that ttuuxxx did have the 3.14.79 sources at one point but don't know if he saved them when he did a newer build.
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PostPosted: Mon 17 Apr 2017, 21:26    Post subject:  

Billtoo wrote:
Sorry, I'd forgotten about the one on Smokey01 server, I've done at least 14 builds with various kernels but that's the only one that I posted and I don't have the kernel sources for it.
I'm pretty sure that ttuuxxx did have the 3.14.79 sources at one point but don't know if he saved them when he did a newer build.

Ah, OK, thanks for checking into it anyway. At some point I expect I will move to a different build or maybe experiment with swapping kernels or something.

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PostPosted: Tue 18 Apr 2017, 05:55    Post subject:  

Billtoo wrote:
OscarTalks wrote:
Billtoo wrote:
I did 3.16.43, that's the LTS kernel that's good until 2020 or so. I think you can get the 3.14.79 kernel sources from ttuuxxx.


Maybe I am getting confused. I thought the one I am using is the one in your smokey01.com/Bill2 repo, posted on 25th Feb. Is that one 3.16.43 ?

I thought the first one I tried was an early ttuuxxx but it had the permissions issue so I grabbed your one. Have you never done a 3.14.79 Stretch? I can't see anything 3.14.79 in ttuuxxx's repo, only 4.1.38


Sorry, I'd forgotten about the one on Smokey01 server, I've done at least 14 builds with various kernels but that's the only one that I posted and I don't have the kernel sources for it.
I'm pretty sure that ttuuxxx did have the 3.14.79 sources at one point but don't know if he saved them when he did a newer build.


Hello Billtoo trying your 3-14-79 build and so far it is working well on my Emachines E625 where as the later kernel builds give irregular boot to black screen problems. Will report back.

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PostPosted: Wed 19 Apr 2017, 01:29    Post subject:  

Damn today booted to a blank screen like other later Puppies.
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