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musher0 · #556 Post by **musher0** » Sat 01 Jul 2017, 23:41

Hi fredx181.

In GParted, once your ext4 partition was created and formatted, have you
flagged it as bootable? If not, that would explain your problem.

Please see illustrations below.

IHTH.

rockedge · #557 Post by **rockedge** » Sun 02 Jul 2017, 00:14

Debian 9 refuses to boot on 32gig USB stick after using Gparted to format to ext4 set the boot flag then used GRUB4DOS. Reinstalled Debian 9 on the USB stick using Puppy Linux Tahr 6.0.6 letting the GRUB2 from the Debian installer do it's work and it will boot. I can not get the GRUB4DOS to chain to the GRUB2 on the usb stick after several more tries.

fredx181 · #558 Post by **fredx181** » Sun 02 Jul 2017, 07:27

@musher0

In GParted, once your ext4 partition was created and formatted, have you
flagged it as bootable? If not, that would explain your problem.

Thanks, but I did set the bootflag, so the problem is not there, it's in the difference in /etc/mke2fs.conf :

has_journal,extent,huge_file,flex_bg,metadata_csum,64bit,dir_nlink,extra_isize

(force 64bit, I think, just guessing, but I do use a 64-bit machine, btw)

@rockedge
I'm going to try with GRUB2 soon, if that works it would mean that grub4dos is not supported anymore when formatted to ext4 by using newer OS's such as Stretch ?, thanks for the info.

Fred

Pelo · #559 Post by **Pelo** » Sun 02 Jul 2017, 07:31

What about PPM for Debian Strecth.. Binaries Missing ?
Puppy stretch boots easily on my USBs. I don't use Debian original OS (Our Little Puppy Linux much faster, but i need Debian packages)
Debian lovers can run Pupjibaro Synaptic

fredx181 · #560 Post by **fredx181** » Sun 02 Jul 2017, 07:42

Pelo wrote:Puppy stretch boots easily on my USBs.

Ok, but did you use Puppy stretch to format your USB to ext4 ?
That's where the problem is (for me at least). EDIT: So not only with original Debian OS, but also with d-pup-Stretch.

If it's formatted by using e.g. Tahrpup or Debiandog-Jessie or with any other older OS, then there's no problem to make it bootable for me either.

EDIT: @all, rockedge
Just tested with GRUB2 and works fine making bootable USB.
So I tend to the conclusion that grub4dos isn't supported anymore when formatted to ext4 by using newer OS's such as Stretch. I'll just stick to the workaround I described earlier:
http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic. ... 397#959397

Fred

Pelo · #561 Post by **Pelo** » Sun 02 Jul 2017, 09:04

Bookmarked in my to-do list. I will test Formatting ext4, when New USB received.. and with my Puppy Stretch..
I usually let pendrives FAT32, as received when bought. For Puppy Linux.

What about binaries missing in Debian Stretch packages ? Perhaps done on purpose by Debian to prevent people to use them, as Jessie is still the official repository.

OscarTalks · #562 Post by **OscarTalks** » Sun 02 Jul 2017, 09:41

Pelo wrote:What about binaries missing in Debian Stretch packages?

The binaries (executables) are not missing, they are present, but they are compiled with an attribute which makes them look like shared libraries when viewed in the file manager. Recent Ubuntu packages are like this too.

As discussed earlier in the thread you can change this if you really want to by running elfedit on the binary file:-

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elfedit --input-type=dyn --output-type=exec

musher0 · #563 Post by **musher0** » Sun 02 Jul 2017, 15:05

Hello all.

Anybody here having problems with the PPM since the Debian 9, aka
"Stretch", was officially released? (June 17, 2017)

My PPM has gone blank...

Anybody here knows how to correct that?

TIA.

Sailor Enceladus · #564 Post by **Sailor Enceladus** » Mon 03 Jul 2017, 03:43

Switch to ascii?

Mine loaded, it was a bit slow to load the whole list though.

musher0 · #565 Post by **musher0** » Mon 03 Jul 2017, 04:23

Did josejp2424 just pull the rug under our feet?

A Latino-American DPupStretch-7, for now without synaptic.

http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic. ... ost#959549

Which could mean one with synaptic is coming?

BFN.

OscarTalks · #566 Post by **OscarTalks** » Mon 03 Jul 2017, 07:10

musher0 wrote:Anybody here having problems with the PPM since the Debian 9, aka
"Stretch", was officially released? (June 17, 2017)
My PPM has gone blank.

Booted my StretchPup remaster with pfix=ram and took a look at PPM.
Packages appeared in the list as normal.

musher0 · #567 Post by **musher0** » Mon 03 Jul 2017, 15:37

Thanks for your positive report, OscarTalks.
Good to know your PPM is working ok.

Still hunting for the bug over here.

BFN.

vicmz · #568 Post by **vicmz** » Tue 04 Jul 2017, 00:32

musher0 wrote:Did josejp2424 just pull the rug under our feet?

A Latino-American DPupStretch-7, for now without synaptic.

http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic. ... ost#959549

Which could mean one with synaptic is coming?

BFN.

Remember that josejp2424 doesn't understand English. He does want to participate, it's just hard for him to communicate

musher0 · #569 Post by **musher0** » Tue 04 Jul 2017, 03:41

Got it, vicmz.

Pelo · #570 Post by **Pelo** » Wed 12 Jul 2017, 18:13

Remember that josejp2424 doesn't understand English. He does want to participate, it's just hard for him to communicate Told us Vicmz
Pupjibaro Stretch
es muy facil de hablar francès o espanol
99% de las palabras 'tion' son 'ccion'
More / As Puppies are all the same, in spite of debates, you can use even chinese or japanese ones only with the Icons, so familiar to everybody.
When some hard points, i set the Puppy in English, only for a short while (one or two hours).
puppy is nice to learn (written) foreign idiomas

pupjibaro stretch beta 3. kernel 4.10 Click the blue and jump to the Puppy future
Try Pupjibaro Stretch, josejp2424 succeeded with Wheezy and Jessie. Who could say better ?

musher0 · #571 Post by **musher0** » Sun 16 Jul 2017, 23:40

Hello, all.

For those who prefer to use alternatives to genisoimage and cdrecord,

I have made available freshly compiled, for DPupStretch-7.0.0, versions of

the very well-designed cdrskin and xorriso CD/DVD/BD utilities by

LibBurnia-associated developer Thomas Schmitt,

here:
http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic. ... ost#960975

and here:
http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic. ... ost#960900.

Please post below any comment or question you may have about them.

Enjoy!

musher0 · #572 Post by **musher0** » Tue 18 Jul 2017, 04:10

Hi guys.

How can you enable zram on DPupStretch-7?
Like BarryK is doing on his QuirkyXerus.

TIA.

josejp2424 · #573 Post by **josejp2424** » Tue 18 Jul 2017, 23:52

Hello guys,

I'd like to post a few tips for developers to consider, in my opinion and listening to users.

Dpup Wheezy by Pemasu was one of the main OS's I used, but it had too many programs, and that made easy to get lost in the menu. And there were several programs for the same purpose.
Something users want is simplicity.
A minimal number of programs, to build it customized and have a tidier menu.

In my Pupjibaro Stretch. I used PupControl, which is like a Swiss army knife for Puppy. By using this tool I removed a lot of programs from the menu, since I can manage them from there.

Another good tool is jwmdesk, to me it's simple and greatly superior to jwmconfig3.

I don't think Dillo be a good choice for a browser, it's too simple and not easy to manage.

I like JWM with square borders, like Openbox.

If anyone would like to have those borders, compile JWM like this:

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./configure --prefix=/usr --libdir=/usr/lib --sysconfdir=/etc --disable-xmu --disable-shape --enable-fribidi --enable-xpm

Or use this pet compiled for Dpup Stretch:

jwm_stretch-2.3.6.pet.

Ease of use should definitely be something to pursue.

Thanks and sorry for not being able to participate as much as I'd like, since I'm not fluent in English

JWM with square borders

menu

rufwoof · #574 Post by **rufwoof** » Wed 19 Jul 2017, 01:28

josejp2424 wrote:JWM with square borders

https://joewing.net/projects/jwm/config.shtml#window

Window Style

Corner

The width of the rounded corner in pixels. The default is 4. The minimum is 0 (square) and the maximum is 5 (very rounded).

Example

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<WindowStyle>
        <Font>Sans-9:bold</Font>
        <Width>4</Width>
        <Height>21</Height>
        <Corner>0</Corner>
        <Foreground>#FFFFFF</Foreground>
        <Background>#555555</Background>
        <Outline>#000000</Outline>
        <Opacity>0.5</Opacity>
        <Active>
            <Foreground>#FFFFFF</Foreground>
            <Background>#0077CC</Background>
            <Outline>#000000</Outline>
            <Opacity>1.0</Opacity>
        </Active>
</WindowStyle>

josejp2424 · #575 Post by **josejp2424** » Wed 19 Jul 2017, 01:35

rufwoof wrote:
josejp2424 wrote:JWM with square borders
https://joewing.net/projects/jwm/config.shtml#window

Window Style

Corner

The width of the rounded corner in pixels. The default is 4. The minimum is 0 (square) and the maximum is 5 (very rounded).
Example
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<WindowStyle>
        <Font>Sans-9:bold</Font>
        <Width>4</Width>
        <Height>21</Height>
        <Corner>0</Corner>
        <Foreground>#FFFFFF</Foreground>
        <Background>#555555</Background>
        <Outline>#000000</Outline>
        <Opacity>0.5</Opacity>
        <Active>
            <Foreground>#FFFFFF</Foreground>
            <Background>#0077CC</Background>
            <Outline>#000000</Outline>
            <Opacity>1.0</Opacity>
        </Active>
</WindowStyle>

Thanks for the data rufwoof

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