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EasyOS Pyro 1.3, Buster 2.2, December 27, 2019
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rufwoof


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PostPosted: Sat 29 Dec 2018, 11:11    Post subject: Re: EasyOS Pyro 0.9.14, December 18, 2018  

Billtoo wrote:
I did a fresh install to a 32gb flash drive, added firefox,kodi,and xenialpup containers in that order.

If you're using xorg rather than xephyr configuration for containers then be mindful xorg isn't secure (containering is only marginally more secure than not having containered at all).

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Billtoo


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PostPosted: Sat 29 Dec 2018, 11:20    Post subject: Re: EasyOS Pyro 0.9.14, December 18, 2018  

rufwoof wrote:
Billtoo wrote:
I did a fresh install to a 32gb flash drive, added firefox,kodi,and xenialpup containers in that order.

If you're using xorg rather than xephyr configuration for containers then be mindful xorg isn't secure (containering is only marginally more secure than not having containered at all).


# report-video
VIDEO REPORT: Easy Pyro64, version 0.9.14

Chip description:
VGA compatible controller: NVIDIA Corporation GF108 [GeForce GT 430] (rev a1)

Requested by /etc/X11/xorg.conf:
Resolution (widthxheight, in pixels): 1024x768x16
Depth (bits, or planes): 24
Modules requested to be loaded: dbe

Probing Xorg startup log file (/var/log/Xorg.0.log):
Driver loaded (and currently in use): nouveau
Loaded modules: dbe dri2 evdev exa extmod fb fbdevhw glx shadowfb

Actual rendering on monitor:
Resolution: 1920x1080 pixels (508x285 millimeters)
Depth: 24 planes

...the above also recorded in /tmp/report-video
#

Guess I'm gambling eh?
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PostPosted: Mon 31 Dec 2018, 09:04    Post subject:  

As an update to a previous post:

I moved my Compaq-Presario and it's now connected to a 32" TV, sound
via hdmi.
Also, with the nouveau driver there was a high pitched whine all the
time, the proprietary Nvidia driver fixed that.
I think the support for LTS Ubuntu versions has been upped to 10 years
so hopefully I can use this for a long while Smile

# inxi -bw
System: Host: EASYPC20257 Kernel: 4.18.9 x86_64 bits: 64 Desktop: JWM git-1685 Distro: Quirky 0.9.4 beaver64
Machine: Device: desktop System: Compaq-Presario product: AU194AA-A2L CQ5123F serial: MXX9300M0F
Mobo: MSI model: Boston v: 1.0 serial: N/A BIOS: Phoenix v: 5.24 date: 06/19/2009
CPU: Dual core Pentium E5200 (-MCP-) speed/max: 1266/2500 MHz
Graphics: Card: NVIDIA GF108 [GeForce GT 430]
Display Server: X.Org 1.19.6 driver: nvidia Resolution: 1920x1080@60.00hz
OpenGL: renderer: GeForce GT 430/PCIe/SSE2 version: 4.6.0 NVIDIA 390.87
Network: Card: Realtek RTL8101/2/6E PCI Express Fast/Gigabit Ethernet controller driver: r8169
Drives: HDD Total Size: 500.1GB (3.3% used)
Weather: Conditions: 19 F (-7 C) - Mostly Cloudy Time: December 31, 7:45 AM EST
Info: Processes: 99 Uptime: 47 min Memory: 169.2/3945.9MB Client: Shell (bash) inxi: 2.3.56
#

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belham2

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PostPosted: Mon 31 Dec 2018, 12:22    Post subject:  

Billtoo wrote:
As an update to a previous post:

I moved my Compaq-Presario and it's now connected to a 32" TV, sound
via hdmi.
Also, with the nouveau driver there was a high pitched whine all the
time, the proprietary Nvidia driver fixed that.
I think the support for LTS Ubuntu versions has been upped to 10 years
so hopefully I can use this for a long while Smile

# inxi -bw
System: Host: EASYPC20257 Kernel: 4.18.9 x86_64 bits: 64 Desktop: JWM git-1685 Distro: Quirky 0.9.4 beaver64
Machine: Device: desktop System: Compaq-Presario product: AU194AA-A2L CQ5123F serial: MXX9300M0F
Mobo: MSI model: Boston v: 1.0 serial: N/A BIOS: Phoenix v: 5.24 date: 06/19/2009
CPU: Dual core Pentium E5200 (-MCP-) speed/max: 1266/2500 MHz
Graphics: Card: NVIDIA GF108 [GeForce GT 430]
Display Server: X.Org 1.19.6 driver: nvidia Resolution: 1920x1080@60.00hz
OpenGL: renderer: GeForce GT 430/PCIe/SSE2 version: 4.6.0 NVIDIA 390.87
Network: Card: Realtek RTL8101/2/6E PCI Express Fast/Gigabit Ethernet controller driver: r8169
Drives: HDD Total Size: 500.1GB (3.3% used)
Weather: Conditions: 19 F (-7 C) - Mostly Cloudy Time: December 31, 7:45 AM EST
Info: Processes: 99 Uptime: 47 min Memory: 169.2/3945.9MB Client: Shell (bash) inxi: 2.3.56
#

Thanks



Sorry, Billtoo, I can' resist this: but given someone's previous post worried about safety and security and such: it must be true, you are a certified rebel, living so wild, so crazy, so out-on-the-edge ridiculous carefree, and it is all described by these two words: Compaq and Presario! Laughing Time-traveler you are!! Oh, btw, I finally got mine going with the bluetooth sound (thanks!)......the darn thing is actually now beckoning me to use it more again Wink
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PostPosted: Tue 01 Jan 2019, 15:34    Post subject: Are there More USB IMAGE TOOL ready Puppies?  

Barry, you have made the install process quite easy. I followed instructions yesterday and EasyOS Pyro 0.9.14 installed nicely on...

HP EliteBook 8570p 8 gb ram 240 ssd windows 7 pro quad core i73620QM

My only prob was the Touchpad -- tapping not established, can only utilize left button press and window dragging/resizing. So my main question would be are there some other Puppy's doing this USB Image Tool thing? I was a bit puzzled upon reboot, would keep going to its usual Grub setup; however, I turned OFF PC and Restarting did the trick, went right to my Verbatim 4GB stick.

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PostPosted: Tue 01 Jan 2019, 22:22    Post subject:  

Will have more to say here soon.

EDIT:
OK, have posted about this to my blog:

http://bkhome.org/news/201901/non-english-support-in-initrd.html

Whatever method I end up using, the translated strings will be most helpful!

STOP THE PRESS!
I have removed the attachment, as adding more strings to the 'init' script. Have worked out how to do translations from very beginning of script. Will post a new 'easyinitrd.pot' file soon.

START THE PRESS
easyinitrd.pot now has more strings, see attached. If you did a translation of the previous file, those translations can be pasted into this one.

So that there is no conflict, these guys have contributed:

no zigbert
fr Gyle
de L18L

...and they are the people who will probably want to translate this latest easyintrd.pot

EDIT 20190110
Have re-uploaded attachment easyinitrd.pot.gz
The reason is, some text blocks display with a background colour, and have to be padded with spaces to the same column, so that it looks nice.

For example;

Code:
msgid "Please enter the number corresponding to your keyboard layout.    "
msgstr ""

#: init:40
msgid "Choose the closest match, there will an opportunity to fine-tune  "
msgstr ""

#: init:41
msgid "the layout after the desktop has loaded. Press ENTER only for US. "
msgstr ""


...the translation may be different length, just ensure that those three are padded to the same column.

I have received a pm from robwoj44, he says that he will do the Polish (pl) translation.
easyinitrd.pot.gz
Description  Remove fake .gz extension
gz

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Filename  easyinitrd.pot.gz 
Filesize  6.76 KB 
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stemsee

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PostPosted: Wed 02 Jan 2019, 13:52    Post subject:  

Hi Barry

I read the blog post and probably you meant to say Brazillian Portugues and Portugal Portuguese. Or Argentinian Spanish and Spain Spanish. Not a biggy.

cheers
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PostPosted: Wed 02 Jan 2019, 18:14    Post subject: Translations  

Files deleted, obsolete.
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PostPosted: Wed 02 Jan 2019, 19:22    Post subject:  

stemsee wrote:
Hi Barry

I read the blog post and probably you meant to say Brazillian Portugues and Portugal Portuguese. Or Argentinian Spanish and Spain Spanish. Not a biggy.

cheers
stemsee


Ha ha, yes!

I think that it was the Brazilian Portugues, that someone told me they write and speak it quite differently from Portugal.

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PostPosted: Wed 02 Jan 2019, 19:34    Post subject:  

@Gyle, @zigbert,
Thanks very much. Gyle for fr translation, zigbert for no (Norwegian).

I will now test these in the initrd.

One thing that I don't understand, is what will happen with UTF-8 characters in the initrd?

I have compiled the 4.14.91 kernel with ISO-8859-1 and UTF-8 support builtin. However, what does that really mean? Does that mean there are character sets builtin to the kernel?

We do have console fonts that can be loaded, in /lib/consolefonts. We could put these in the initrd. But, they would be 8-bit characters, not UTF-8.

So, I need to see that these fr and no translation look like in the initrd, and will report back.

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PostPosted: Wed 02 Jan 2019, 22:12    Post subject: Re: Translation  

Gyle wrote:
Edit: two typos fixed.

False .gz extension

And your credentials for translating that text are... ?

Plus where did you get that text?

Barry, you asked me to do it earlier today -- I've got the PMs to prove it,
and now this stranger comes out of nowhere with the finished product. If
you gave it to me for translation, you should not have given it to him, and
vice versa. That is not professional, I'm sorry.

Translation is NOT a street party or an auction, with the first one to the
finish line "getting paid", in recognition or prestige or whatever.

Nobody here should be treated as a daily jobber.

Mad as hell.

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PostPosted: Thu 03 Jan 2019, 05:37    Post subject:  

Cool, get cool...musher0, there is no offense from anybody.
We are on a forum, right?
Please review BarryK's request by following this link:
http://bkhome.org/news/

Quote:
"Anyway, you guys can help me. I have a easyinitrd.pot file, and anyone proficient in a non-English lanugage could help by filling in the translations. There is a easyinitrd.pot file here:
http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=1014409#1014409"
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PostPosted: Thu 03 Jan 2019, 16:39    Post subject: Translations
Subject description: Start with bad ones and make them better
 

BarryK wrote:
Ha ha, yes!

I think that it was the Brazilian Portugues, that someone told me they write and speak it quite differently from Portugal.


Having tryed a translating engine I could not see any difference between pt and pt-PT

What I did see, bad and worse translations
Humans to the front !
Code:
 bg  da  de  el  es  id  it  nl  pl  pt  ru  sr  tr

Bulgarian
Dansk
Deutsch
Greek
Spanish
Indonesian
Italian
Nederlands
Polish
Portuguese
Russian
Serbian
Turk

Have fun with these automatic translations and make them better, please

Thank you Wink
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PostPosted: Thu 03 Jan 2019, 20:44    Post subject:  

Gyle wrote:
Cool, get cool...musher0, there is no offense from anybody.
We are on a forum, right?
Please review BarryK's request by following this link:
http://bkhome.org/news/

Quote:
"Anyway, you guys can help me. I have a easyinitrd.pot file, and anyone proficient in a non-English lanugage could help by filling in the translations. There is a easyinitrd.pot file here:
http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=1014409#1014409"


My apologies, Gyle, it is not about you.
But Mr. Kauler will do this to me only once.

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PostPosted: Thu 03 Jan 2019, 20:45    Post subject:  

@L18L: Indeed, where are the humans when we need them?
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