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Re: EasyOS Pyro 0.9.14, December 18, 2018

#1216 Post by rufwoof »

Billtoo wrote:I did a fresh install to a 32gb flash drive, added firefox,kodi,and xenialpup containers in that order.
If you're using xorg rather than xephyr configuration for containers then be mindful xorg isn't secure (containering is only marginally more secure than not having containered at all).
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[url=http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=1028256#1028256][size=75]Fatdog multi-session usb[/url][/size]
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Re: EasyOS Pyro 0.9.14, December 18, 2018

#1217 Post by Billtoo »

rufwoof wrote:
Billtoo wrote:I did a fresh install to a 32gb flash drive, added firefox,kodi,and xenialpup containers in that order.
If you're using xorg rather than xephyr configuration for containers then be mindful xorg isn't secure (containering is only marginally more secure than not having containered at all).
# report-video
VIDEO REPORT: Easy Pyro64, version 0.9.14

Chip description:
VGA compatible controller: NVIDIA Corporation GF108 [GeForce GT 430] (rev a1)

Requested by /etc/X11/xorg.conf:
Resolution (widthxheight, in pixels): 1024x768x16
Depth (bits, or planes): 24
Modules requested to be loaded: dbe

Probing Xorg startup log file (/var/log/Xorg.0.log):
Driver loaded (and currently in use): nouveau
Loaded modules: dbe dri2 evdev exa extmod fb fbdevhw glx shadowfb

Actual rendering on monitor:
Resolution: 1920x1080 pixels (508x285 millimeters)
Depth: 24 planes

...the above also recorded in /tmp/report-video
#

Guess I'm gambling eh?

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#1218 Post by Billtoo »

As an update to a previous post:

I moved my Compaq-Presario and it's now connected to a 32" TV, sound
via hdmi.
Also, with the nouveau driver there was a high pitched whine all the
time, the proprietary Nvidia driver fixed that.
I think the support for LTS Ubuntu versions has been upped to 10 years
so hopefully I can use this for a long while :)

# inxi -bw
System: Host: EASYPC20257 Kernel: 4.18.9 x86_64 bits: 64 Desktop: JWM git-1685 Distro: Quirky 0.9.4 beaver64
Machine: Device: desktop System: Compaq-Presario product: AU194AA-A2L CQ5123F serial: MXX9300M0F
Mobo: MSI model: Boston v: 1.0 serial: N/A BIOS: Phoenix v: 5.24 date: 06/19/2009
CPU: Dual core Pentium E5200 (-MCP-) speed/max: 1266/2500 MHz
Graphics: Card: NVIDIA GF108 [GeForce GT 430]
Display Server: X.Org 1.19.6 driver: nvidia Resolution: 1920x1080@60.00hz
OpenGL: renderer: GeForce GT 430/PCIe/SSE2 version: 4.6.0 NVIDIA 390.87
Network: Card: Realtek RTL8101/2/6E PCI Express Fast/Gigabit Ethernet controller driver: r8169
Drives: HDD Total Size: 500.1GB (3.3% used)
Weather: Conditions: 19 F (-7 C) - Mostly Cloudy Time: December 31, 7:45 AM EST
Info: Processes: 99 Uptime: 47 min Memory: 169.2/3945.9MB Client: Shell (bash) inxi: 2.3.56
#

Thanks

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#1219 Post by belham2 »

Billtoo wrote:As an update to a previous post:

I moved my Compaq-Presario and it's now connected to a 32" TV, sound
via hdmi.
Also, with the nouveau driver there was a high pitched whine all the
time, the proprietary Nvidia driver fixed that.
I think the support for LTS Ubuntu versions has been upped to 10 years
so hopefully I can use this for a long while :)

# inxi -bw
System: Host: EASYPC20257 Kernel: 4.18.9 x86_64 bits: 64 Desktop: JWM git-1685 Distro: Quirky 0.9.4 beaver64
Machine: Device: desktop System: Compaq-Presario product: AU194AA-A2L CQ5123F serial: MXX9300M0F
Mobo: MSI model: Boston v: 1.0 serial: N/A BIOS: Phoenix v: 5.24 date: 06/19/2009
CPU: Dual core Pentium E5200 (-MCP-) speed/max: 1266/2500 MHz
Graphics: Card: NVIDIA GF108 [GeForce GT 430]
Display Server: X.Org 1.19.6 driver: nvidia Resolution: 1920x1080@60.00hz
OpenGL: renderer: GeForce GT 430/PCIe/SSE2 version: 4.6.0 NVIDIA 390.87
Network: Card: Realtek RTL8101/2/6E PCI Express Fast/Gigabit Ethernet controller driver: r8169
Drives: HDD Total Size: 500.1GB (3.3% used)
Weather: Conditions: 19 F (-7 C) - Mostly Cloudy Time: December 31, 7:45 AM EST
Info: Processes: 99 Uptime: 47 min Memory: 169.2/3945.9MB Client: Shell (bash) inxi: 2.3.56
#

Thanks

Sorry, Billtoo, I can' resist this: but given someone's previous post worried about safety and security and such: it must be true, you are a certified rebel, living so wild, so crazy, so out-on-the-edge ridiculous carefree, and it is all described by these two words: Compaq and Presario! :lol: Time-traveler you are!! Oh, btw, I finally got mine going with the bluetooth sound (thanks!)......the darn thing is actually now beckoning me to use it more again :wink:

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Are there More USB IMAGE TOOL ready Puppies?

#1220 Post by bankwtf »

Barry, you have made the install process quite easy. I followed instructions yesterday and EasyOS Pyro 0.9.14 installed nicely on...

HP EliteBook 8570p 8 gb ram 240 ssd windows 7 pro quad core i73620QM

My only prob was the Touchpad -- tapping not established, can only utilize left button press and window dragging/resizing. So my main question would be are there some other Puppy's doing this USB Image Tool thing? I was a bit puzzled upon reboot, would keep going to its usual Grub setup; however, I turned OFF PC and Restarting did the trick, went right to my Verbatim 4GB stick.

Happy's 8)

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#1221 Post by BarryK »

Will have more to say here soon.

EDIT:
OK, have posted about this to my blog:

http://bkhome.org/news/201901/non-engli ... nitrd.html

Whatever method I end up using, the translated strings will be most helpful!

STOP THE PRESS!
I have removed the attachment, as adding more strings to the 'init' script. Have worked out how to do translations from very beginning of script. Will post a new 'easyinitrd.pot' file soon.

START THE PRESS
easyinitrd.pot now has more strings, see attached. If you did a translation of the previous file, those translations can be pasted into this one.

So that there is no conflict, these guys have contributed:

no zigbert
fr Gyle
de L18L

...and they are the people who will probably want to translate this latest easyintrd.pot

EDIT 20190110
Have re-uploaded attachment easyinitrd.pot.gz
The reason is, some text blocks display with a background colour, and have to be padded with spaces to the same column, so that it looks nice.

For example;

Code: Select all

msgid "Please enter the number corresponding to your keyboard layout.    "
msgstr ""

#: init:40
msgid "Choose the closest match, there will an opportunity to fine-tune  "
msgstr ""

#: init:41
msgid "the layout after the desktop has loaded. Press ENTER only for US. "
msgstr ""
...the translation may be different length, just ensure that those three are padded to the same column.

I have received a pm from robwoj44, he says that he will do the Polish (pl) translation.
Attachments
easyinitrd.pot.gz
Remove fake .gz extension
(6.76 KiB) Downloaded 141 times
Last edited by BarryK on Thu 10 Jan 2019, 01:08, edited 4 times in total.
[url]https://bkhome.org/news/[/url]

stemsee

#1222 Post by stemsee »

Hi Barry

I read the blog post and probably you meant to say Brazillian Portugues and Portugal Portuguese. Or Argentinian Spanish and Spain Spanish. Not a biggy.

cheers
stemsee

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Translations

#1223 Post by Gyle »

Files deleted, obsolete.
Last edited by Gyle on Sat 05 Jan 2019, 15:42, edited 4 times in total.

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#1224 Post by BarryK »

stemsee wrote:Hi Barry

I read the blog post and probably you meant to say Brazillian Portugues and Portugal Portuguese. Or Argentinian Spanish and Spain Spanish. Not a biggy.

cheers
stemsee
Ha ha, yes!

I think that it was the Brazilian Portugues, that someone told me they write and speak it quite differently from Portugal.
[url]https://bkhome.org/news/[/url]

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#1225 Post by BarryK »

@Gyle, @zigbert,
Thanks very much. Gyle for fr translation, zigbert for no (Norwegian).

I will now test these in the initrd.

One thing that I don't understand, is what will happen with UTF-8 characters in the initrd?

I have compiled the 4.14.91 kernel with ISO-8859-1 and UTF-8 support builtin. However, what does that really mean? Does that mean there are character sets builtin to the kernel?

We do have console fonts that can be loaded, in /lib/consolefonts. We could put these in the initrd. But, they would be 8-bit characters, not UTF-8.

So, I need to see that these fr and no translation look like in the initrd, and will report back.
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Re: Translation

#1226 Post by musher0 »

Gyle wrote:Edit: two typos fixed.

False .gz extension
And your credentials for translating that text are... ?

Plus where did you get that text?

Barry, you asked me to do it earlier today -- I've got the PMs to prove it,
and now this stranger comes out of nowhere with the finished product. If
you gave it to me for translation, you should not have given it to him, and
vice versa. That is not professional, I'm sorry.

Translation is NOT a street party or an auction, with the first one to the
finish line "getting paid", in recognition or prestige or whatever.

Nobody here should be treated as a daily jobber.

:x as hell.
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#1227 Post by Gyle »

Cool, get cool...musher0, there is no offense from anybody.
We are on a forum, right?
Please review BarryK's request by following this link:
http://bkhome.org/news/
"Anyway, you guys can help me. I have a easyinitrd.pot file, and anyone proficient in a non-English lanugage could help by filling in the translations. There is a easyinitrd.pot file here:
http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic. ... 09#1014409"

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#1228 Post by L18L »

BarryK wrote:Ha ha, yes!

I think that it was the Brazilian Portugues, that someone told me they write and speak it quite differently from Portugal.
Having tryed a translating engine I could not see any difference between pt and pt-PT

What I did see, bad and worse translations
Humans to the front !

Code: Select all

 bg  da  de  el  es  id  it  nl  pl  pt  ru  sr  tr 
Bulgarian
Dansk
Deutsch
Greek
Spanish
Indonesian
Italian
Nederlands
Polish
Portuguese
Russian
Serbian
Turk

Have fun with these automatic translations and make them better, please

Thank you :wink:
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translations_easyinitrd.tar.gz
Pick your language
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#1229 Post by musher0 »

Gyle wrote:Cool, get cool...musher0, there is no offense from anybody.
We are on a forum, right?
Please review BarryK's request by following this link:
http://bkhome.org/news/
"Anyway, you guys can help me. I have a easyinitrd.pot file, and anyone proficient in a non-English lanugage could help by filling in the translations. There is a easyinitrd.pot file here:
http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic. ... 09#1014409"
My apologies, Gyle, it is not about you.
But Mr. Kauler will do this to me only once.
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#1230 Post by musher0 »

@L18L: Indeed, where are the humans when we need them?
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#1231 Post by BarryK »

musher0 wrote:
Gyle wrote:Cool, get cool...musher0, there is no offense from anybody.
We are on a forum, right?
Please review BarryK's request by following this link:
http://bkhome.org/news/
"Anyway, you guys can help me. I have a easyinitrd.pot file, and anyone proficient in a non-English lanugage could help by filling in the translations. There is a easyinitrd.pot file here:
http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic. ... 09#1014409"
My apologies, Gyle, it is not about you.
But Mr. Kauler will do this to me only once.
To set the record straight:

I posted the request to my blog and to this forum.

AFTER that, I received an email from GCMartin, requesting that I should ask you, musher0, so I did, sent you a pm.

AFTER receiving the reply from you that you were willing to do it, I went to this forum thread and found that Gyle had contributed a fr translation.

THEN I immediately informed you by pm.

AFTER that, I removed the easyinitrd.pot file from the earlier post, as it needs more strings.

So, cool down.
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#1232 Post by L18L »

musher0 wrote:@L18L: Indeed, where are the humans when we need them?
Found on the web
There is no competition between fr (French) and fr_CA (Canadian French)
fr is for all French speakers (from France, Suisse, Belgium, Luxembourg, Canada...)
fr_CA, if created, is to be used by Canadians.

A fr_CA translation needs only translations which are different from fr translation.

musher0,
you see, it is not very much work, just

- copy Gyle's file fr.po_3 to fr_CA.po
- translate just what you translate into other words than Gyle did it
- and delete what would be the same translation.

Salut cheers and ciao

edited: appended .po to file names

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#1233 Post by Gyle »

musher0,
your apologies are "strange" if not perverse when you accompany them at the same time with threats against another person.
They do not allow you to obtain any endorsement from me about these threats.
I believe you have a misconception of what is called a forum, a word that means "open space".
You speak French very well and in French the word "forer" has the same root as "forum" and means "make a hole", "to drill" in English.
In other words, "to allow an opening".

In the specific case of translations, it is absolutely necessary to cross-reference the information with different or convergent opinions.
So we make a hole in the *public* space to explore more broadly.
It is therefore quite "professional" to conduct a survey to have the widest possible range of responses in order to establish convergence.
It is simply a statistical tool.
For this survey, the special privileges or the personal and contractual spaces, you shared or you have imagined being shared, by the survey promoter would be a pollution of the common accuracy.
This is exactly the case with the problem of the "fake news"....

Well, it doesn't have to worry about that.
As we all know, it is not very serious to take one' s self seriously....
Have fun with this forum!

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#1234 Post by belham2 »

Jeeezus, Barry (and others), I cannot believe you all have deal with, let alone even reply to, that sort of behavior.

For the record, for the past two years, I have repeatedly pointed out Musher's descent into nastiness, pettiness, and other un-forum like behaviors (like posting content in threads that have nothing to do with the thread itself). Even if a person tries to praise him for things he's done, he eventually turns on you and/or anything you present to him.

Musher won't admit it, heck, he won't even apologize; he'll just keep stomping around this forum like a few others used to do, a few others that ironically were finally banned.

And I truly don't understand it: 3-4 years ago (and all before that), Musher was fun to post with, joke with, etc, etc.

But his ability to be civil with others (of course, anything that occurs he'll blame on everyone & everything else EXCEPT himself) has deteriorated to the point that I have had him on "ignore". When I saw "blanked" out threads in this thread today, I just shook my head because I only have "one" person on ignore. Musher.

Over a year ago I watched Musher personally drive away one of our forum's greatest contributors (Tux) when Tux was developing and handling the Deb-stretch-pup development. It was horrid. Distasteful. Petty. And most of all, Childish. Musher kept screaming about Tux & others not including him, etc, etc. That Tux was "slighting" him. It got so bad it finally drove Tux away permanently and he has not been back since. And Tux was one of most gifted here...

Musher, if you're reading this, APOLOGIZE! for whatever you did and/or caused here, and then, please, go get some help, learn to be part of a community again. Make yourself be a part of and act accordingly to normal human interaction, while learning & remembering that everything that happens in life is not always about you . Above all, whatever happens is 99.99999% of the time never intentional. Yet, 99.9999% of the time, you perceive it as such. That is a problem, and it needs to change. Now.

Good heavens.... ;-(



P.S. There are a less-than-handful of posters here on Murga who ruin it for everyone, with their childish, bitter, negative, no-reason-for-anything posting. These 2-3 posters need to stop.

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#1235 Post by Gyle »

belham2, is it a reincarnation?

This spirit of denunciation you're showing is shocking...
Take the time to be quiet about yourself and musher0.
Are you human beings or disintegrated pieces of multiple identifications?
The word human being is not separated from the word integrity.
An indivisible thing. Integer in mathematics. All one. Alone. Seul in French which means "unique", "un" like "one"...
If you want the good to musher0, then explain, or be careful,
be honest, banish your hateful agendas and take care of others respecting this thread now, you're not involved in his emotional comments.
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