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rodin.s

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PostPosted: Sun 20 Jan 2019, 15:19    Post subject: Russian build  

Barry.
Just got your messages. May be too late as you have already made a release. I guess I will look at it as soon as I get to a computer capabale of running it. I am posting this from Raspberry Pi.
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PostPosted: Sun 20 Jan 2019, 18:42    Post subject:  

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I installed to a 32GB Sandisk Ultra usb-3.0 flash drive with easydd.
I tried to install the proprietary Nvidia driver but had no success
with that so rebooted restoring the original install.
I installed xenialpup,chromium,kodi,and firefox with sfsget.
Computer is a dual core Lenovo desktop.
Dark blue background and icons are nice.

It's working well,
Thanks.
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PostPosted: Sun 20 Jan 2019, 20:39    Post subject: Re: No firefox installed in containerized desktop  

Rodney Byne wrote:
To Barry;

Repeating my previous post without success:
Default SfsGet delivers Firefox ok.
In container system, SfsGet looks as if it wants to download Firefox
while showing the orange % progress banner, but doesn't actually install.
Same thing with Chromium. Is this right or wrong?
If SfsGet is supposed to provide working s/w in this mode, then it isn't doing its job.

Your reply:
"the SFS is downloaded, then a window pops up asking how you want to install it. You choose, then it gets installed."

I obeyed your instruction to install to NEW as before above,
Orange firefox triangle appears with exclamation mark inside.

A warning notice then appears;
File doesn't exist, or I can't access it:
/usr/sbin/ec-chroot-firefox

Please investigate, thanks.


That is a bug! The "sfsget" icon should not be in the container.

"sfsget" should only be run on the main filesystem, outside of a container.

I know that you reported this before, but I didn't understand the situation. Thanks for persisting with reporting it. I need to remove "sfsget" from the Easy-in-container window, also prevent it from being run from a terminal.

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PostPosted: Sun 20 Jan 2019, 20:51    Post subject: Re: Russian build  

rodin.s wrote:
Barry.
Just got your messages. May be too late as you have already made a release. I guess I will look at it as soon as I get to a computer capabale of running it. I am posting this from Raspberry Pi.


No, not too late, there is going to be a 1.01 or 1.1 release soon.

Try out the 1.0 ru build, you can use that to run momanager and add more translations, and fix some old ones.

Note, the langpack must not contain any executables, no binary executables or shared libraries, and no scripts.

Some of the older langpacks have scripts that replace those in the build, but the Woof build now has later version of those scripts.

If there is a script that does not yet have translation capability in it, get the latest from Woof, add the translation capability (usually getttext) and send it to me for inclusion in Woof.

Latest Woof is here:

http://distro.ibiblio.org/easyos/project/woof/

Right now, Easy 1.0 also has the latest scripts.

L18L has just posted an updated momanager, with some fixes for Easy:

http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?mode=attach&id=121217

...this will replace /usr/sbin/momanager in Easy.

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PostPosted: Sun 20 Jan 2019, 20:58    Post subject: Re: Russian build  

rodin.s wrote:
Barry.
Just got your messages. May be too late as you have already made a release. I guess I will look at it as soon as I get to a computer capabale of running it. I am posting this from Raspberry Pi.


Thanks for responding to my pm.

There is an earlier Easy release for the Pi3. You are giving me some incentive to do a 1.0 build for the Pi!

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rodin.s

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PostPosted: Mon 21 Jan 2019, 00:16    Post subject:  

Ok. I will test Easy may be tomorrow or on Wednesday.
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Sage

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PostPosted: Tue 22 Jan 2019, 03:55    Post subject:  

1.0 liveCD: Not a show stopper, booted with qfix=nox, got the full D/T. Same on several machines.
Where can I find a .pet/.(w.h.y.) like Cheese or Guvcview and a webcam viewer?
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PostPosted: Tue 22 Jan 2019, 09:02    Post subject:  

qfix=nox works fine for me on a HDD frugal install

grub4dos menu.lst entry of ...

title Easy 1.0 (frugal install in sda1)
uuid 7e85c56f-88fa-4660-988e-ebccbd2f5d91
kernel /easy/1.0/vmlinuz video=640x480 qfix=nox
initrd /easy/1.0/initrd

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L18L

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PostPosted: Tue 22 Jan 2019, 09:35    Post subject: EasyOS on RaspberryPi  

rodin.s wrote:
Ok. I will test Easy may be tomorrow or on Wednesday.

translated by Gxlat wrote:
Привет сергей,
Я рад твоему знаку жизни!
Мне любопытно, как EasyOS работает на вашем Raspberry.
привет
Лутц

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scsijon

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PostPosted: Tue 22 Jan 2019, 16:50    Post subject: Re: Russian build  

BarryK wrote:
rodin.s wrote:
Barry.
Just got your messages. May be too late as you have already made a release. I guess I will look at it as soon as I get to a computer capabale of running it. I am posting this from Raspberry Pi.


Thanks for responding to my pm.

There is an earlier Easy release for the Pi3. You are giving me some incentive to do a 1.0 build for the Pi!


And did I see a notice on one of the american pi sites around christmas about a pi notebook planned to come out this year. Don't know which pi chip or if crowd funded as I don't pi at present.

On the other hand there are some refurbished m7's out there if you look, with ssd's and simslots for mobile computing, and they don't go too slow with easy..
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rufwoof


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PostPosted: Tue 22 Jan 2019, 18:13    Post subject:  

seamonkey (and/or firefox) menu appearance too small?

about:config ... and adjust

layout.css.devPixelsPerPx

I changed mine from the default -1.0 to 1.2

For firefox quantum portable, copying in the seamonkey userChrome.css from somewhere like /root/.mozilla/seamonkey/3o1ptd5r.default/chrome/userChrome.css
to /root/Downloads/firefox64/profile/chrome/userChrome.css
i.e. wherever you've extracted portable firefox (you need to create the chrome folder) caters for adjusting both the menu font size and appearance

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PostPosted: Wed 23 Jan 2019, 03:40    Post subject:  

Confirming earlier qfix=nox from liveCD gives D/T on wider range of machines including an 8yr old laptop, single and multi-core desktops. Only commonality is that all run from BIOS; uefi switched off where appropriate/available.
Font sizes in all apps are entirely acceptable with or without spectacles, latter with reading or distances lenses!
Oh yes, an RPi version would be highly acceptable.
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Rodney Byne

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PostPosted: Fri 25 Jan 2019, 12:12    Post subject: Erratic launching of containerized Firefox  

To Barry,
just to let you know, in usb v1.0 standard desktop,
I am experiencing erratic launching of containerized Firefox
browser when clicked.
This is most noticeable after using any ordinary program,
say audacious to listen to some music.
Close that down then try to launch Firefox and nothing happens.
I have to re-boot the pc and try again - it then works but still frustrating.
Something needs tweaking, could you have a look please, thanks.
Regards.
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PostPosted: Fri 25 Jan 2019, 16:07    Post subject: Some shots of Easy 1.0 with tmux/mc/firefox portable  

I've installed Freds Firefox Quantum portable http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=112376 (that auto updates) inside the Easy container - and that seems to work well for me with no apparent ill effects.

Easy container is a lot more secure than running seamonkey/firefox in their own containers, as the Easy container uses Xephyr that better isolates it from the main X server/client.

I've also installed tmux, installed from http://murga-linux.com/puppy//viewtopic.php?p=1002738#1002738

with a configuration of

/root/.tmux.conf ...

Code:
# set control key to backtick but also send it i.e. if hit twice then prints the backtick
unbind C-b
set-option -g prefix `
bind ` send-prefix

bind -T copy-mode-vi PageDown          send-keys -X page-down
bind -T copy-mode-vi PageUp            send-keys -X page-up

# mc uses F1 to F10, so moved up to F11 and F12
bind-key -n F12 next-window
bind-key -n F11 new-window
#bind-key -n F3 kill-window

# Console tmux and this has - and | instead of ? for borders
# UTF-8 must be off
set-option -g terminal-overrides ',*vt*:enacs@:smacs@:rmacs@:acsc@'

# split panes using | and -
bind | split-window -h
bind - split-window -v
unbind '"'
unbind %

## switch panes using Alt-arrow without prefix
#bind -n M-Left select-pane -L
#bind -n M-Right select-pane -R
#bind -n M-Up select-pane -U
#bind -n M-Down select-pane -D

######################
### DESIGN CHANGES ###
######################

## loud or quiet?
#set-option -g visual-activity off
#set-option -g visual-bell off
#set-option -g visual-silence off
#set-window-option -g monitor-activity off
#set-option -g bell-action none

#  modes
#setw -g clock-mode-colour colour2
setw -g clock-mode-colour yellow
setw -g mode-attr bold
setw -g mode-fg colour1
setw -g mode-bg colour18

# panes
set -g pane-border-bg colour0
set -g pane-border-fg colour19
set -g pane-active-border-bg colour0
set -g pane-active-border-fg colour9

# statusbar
set -g status-position top
set -g status-justify left
set -g status-bg colour4
#set -g status-fg colour137
set -g status-fg colour255
#set -g status-attr dim
set -g status-right ' #[bg=colour0] `#[bg=colour4,bold]Prefix    #[bg=colour0] 11#[bg=colour4,bold]New    #[bg=colour0] 12#[bg=colour4,bold]Next   '
set -g status-left '#[fg=colour255,bg=colour4,bold] %H:%M#[fg=colour255,bg=colour4,bold] %a %d %b '
set -g status-left-length 50
set -g status-right-length 30

setw -g window-status-current-fg colour1
setw -g window-status-current-bg colour19
setw -g window-status-current-attr bold
setw -g window-status-current-format ' #I#[fg=colour249]:#[fg=colour255]#W#[fg=colour249]#F '

setw -g window-status-fg colour9
setw -g window-status-bg colour18
setw -g window-status-attr none
setw -g window-status-format ' #I#[fg=colour237]:#[fg=colour250]#W#[fg=colour244]#F '

setw -g window-status-bell-attr bold
setw -g window-status-bell-fg colour255
setw -g window-status-bell-bg colour1

# messages
set -g message-attr bold
set -g message-fg colour232
set -g message-bg colour16

#hilite current window
set-window-option -g window-status-current-bg red
set-window-option -g window-status-current-fg yellow


mc, also installed using petget

So multiple terminal windows when I ctrl-alt-F3 and login as root (and run tmux) with a reasonable file manager (mc) and its text editor (mc -e). Not running any real root X windows whilst a container is running is good security practice (as is regularly clearing out your browsers cache/history). Running real root from cli whilst a easy container is running is fine (better isolation). If you run real root X programs/windows, then do so only when the Easy container isn't loaded/running. I only use the main X real root desktop for admin things that require X, and never have any windows open when the Easy container is running (security).

I have a tput based menu script (currently the same as copied across from my OpenBSD install), that is helpful for running common commands quickly (I've yet to edit it to be EasyOS specific).

I set the cli resolution to be 640x480 as I prefer the larger font/look i.e. in grub4dos menu.lst ...
Code:
title Easy 1.0 (frugal install in sda1)
 uuid 7e85c56f-88fa-4660-988e-ebccbd2f5d91
 kernel /easy/1.0/vmlinuz video=640x480
 initrd /easy/1.0/initrd


Mostly I just flip between ctrl-alt-F3 (cli/tmux/mc) and ctrl-alt-F4 (into X running the Easy container, within which I run firefox, libreoffice ....etc.).

Typically in X (easy container) I'll have audacious running in one X desktop, firefox in another, libre in the third and just flip between those desktops as desired.

First couple of attached screenshots were taken using my phone (actual console), so somewhat blurred. First is the console tmux window that shows my tput based menu, the next is another tmux window running the mc file manager

The other screenshots are (respectively) the main (real root) desktop, and a couple of the Easy container desktop shots (one with audacious running, the other with firefox portable running and showing the puppy forum web site).
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PostPosted: Fri 25 Jan 2019, 20:18    Post subject:  

@rufwoof,
The tmux thing inside container is interesting.

Regarding the standalone apps in containers, using xorg, that is an awkward one to make more secure. Probably could run xephyr, but window sizing is an issue.

@everyone,
Have built Easy 1.0.1 for the Pi3, running on my Model B (2015).

Libreoffice crashed at startup, reports "missing vcl resource." Something to do with localization. That is version 5.0.x compiled in OE.

I decided to compile Libreoffice 6.0.x, on my Rock64 board, which is running Quirky Pyro64 0.9.8. It has been compiling for several hours...

Anyway, expect a Pi3 release, 1.0.x, very soon.

I am not up with the latest Pi3 boards, there is a B+ I think? Don't know if my build has the right firmware for that.

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