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#346 Post by BarryK »

don570 wrote:Review: Easy Linux 0.6.4, released Dec. 18, 2017

-pschedule worked however pclock wasn't installed

-I noticed that there is a window --- BootManager:Manage system services
I click on 'OK' button at bottom of window and the window doesn't close???

- ethernet and samba is running ---> I checked by running 'top'

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dhcpcd  -I '' eth0
is running
But I can't make a samba server???
A connection can't be made by a second machine,
even though a second machine sees the pupshare.
I am using a firewall which I normally don't have on.

I am using
user:root
password:woofwoof

But it doesn't say that I have added this user when I type

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smbpasswd -a root
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On the subject of firewall...

There is a confusing instruction on the quick samba window
which says that two boxes should be clicked but the
two names aren't mentioned. I assumed samba and smb-client???

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I don't see why there is confusion. There are only two Samba checkboxes, tick both.

QuickSamba executes "smbpasswd -a root", you don't have to do that. If you do type that in a terminal, it doesn't tell you that it has already been done.

You should be able to just click the "share" icon on desktop, tick those two checkboxes in the firewall, accept the defaults for Samba Setup (user root and password woofwoof) and it will just work.

EDIT:
I just checked QuickSamba. There is no ambiguity, QuickSamba insists on both checkboxes being ticked, and won't go to next stage until that is done.

There are no other checkboxes identified as Samba-related.

I want to keep the verbosity at a minimum on the main window, so don't know how to explain it better, while using a minimum of words.

EDIT2:
Maybe if I change the text to:

"The firewall is blocking Samba, you must click the "Firewall Setup" button, and tick the two Samba checkboxes"

...yeah, will do that, that's less words than before, and clearer.
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#347 Post by BarryK »

don570 wrote:-I noticed that there is a window --- BootManager:Manage system services
I click on 'OK' button at bottom of window and the window doesn't close???
That's odd. I tested, menu "Filesystem -> Easy BootManager -> Manage system services"

And OK button works.

One thing, if you are using a non-English locale, and the language-pack is installed, the translation could be faulty and that can wreck a script, make it do something undesirable.

But, I take it that is not your case, so I don't know why the OK button does not close the window. Very odd indeed.
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#348 Post by don570 »

That's odd. I tested, menu "Filesystem -> Easy BootManager -> Manage system services"

And OK button works.
I think i got confused which button to press, the left or right.
Blender 3d program uses the right button to click on object,
which confuses me.
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A right click and select 'Move' menu item in Rox filer
causes crash. However middle mouse drag will move a Rox window by the title bar.

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Start Menu > RestartX
allows me to login as root but then I can't get a desktop, so I must
reboot.

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Pcurlftp filesharing app seems to need more software running to work.
Does ftp need to running?

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pclock can be installed , but because pmusic isn't installed there needs to be a line changed to use 'aplay'

...change line 452 to...

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 pschedule -s -e "aplay '$ALARM'" "pClock Alarm" &
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#349 Post by BarryK »

There were two problems with xorgwizard.

Firstly, edit this file, /etc/rc.d/BOOTCONSTRAINED so that the last two lines have "no", as shown:

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BOOT_ATIME='noatime'
BOOT_DIRTYWRITE='1500'
BOOT_SCHEDULER='deadline'
BOOT_UDEVDCHILDREN='1'
BOOT_BOARD='pc'
BOOT_DISABLEXORGWIZARD='no'
BOOT_DISABLEALSACONF='no'
That will allow xorgwizard to run, however, I found another bug if there is nvidia graphics. The wizard gets confused with the two drivers, 'nouveau' and 'nv' -- the latter is unaccelerated, a fallback if the nouveau driver doesn't work.

I fixed, see attached. Remove the fake ".gz" extension, make sure it is executable, and place at /usr/sbin. Exit to the commandline and run:

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# xorgwizard
...which actually runs xorgwizard-cli.
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xorgwizard-cli.gz
Has fake .gz, need to set executable flags, place at /usr/sbin
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#350 Post by BarryK »

Have a great Christmas guys! I posted a picture to my blog:

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I will be slowing down a bit, but still intend to keep the ball rolling, so if you discover any more bugs/issues with Easy, please post them.
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#351 Post by BarryK »

Easy crashes after 15 seconds, reported here:

http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=112379
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#352 Post by BarryK »

There is a desktop icon labeled "sfsget", which offers to download SFS files, then select for loading at bootup.

Works, but a progress message "Please wait, downloading SFS file" does not go away, which it is supposed to do after the file is downloaded.

I have fixed it. Attached, with a fake ".gz". Rename to "sfsget", move to /usr/sbin, make sure executable flags are set.
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#353 Post by BarryK »

don570 wrote:A right click and select 'Move' menu item in Rox filer
causes crash. However middle mouse drag will move a Rox window by the title bar.
Yeah, I can confirm that.

...aargh! Another one. I have lost count how many bugs in JWM since I upgraded to 2.3.7 from 976 (svn revision number, 2.2 series).

I have just now tested 976, and the "Move" operation works.

Someone did mention that 976 does have a bug or two, but nothing that I have encountered. So, why upgrade?

That is a very good question. If 976 works, why not stay with it? Well, the theme PETs have differences -- however, all the jwm theme PETs in my 'noarch' repository have not yet been upgraded, except for two.

Yeah, I just don't want the hassles, maybe I'm rolling back.

EDIT:
Or not. Joe has fixed that "Move" crash bug:

https://github.com/joewing/jwm/issues/410

Some other bugs fixed also. So, maybe I will roll forward instead :)
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#354 Post by BarryK »

BarryK wrote:
don570 wrote:A right click and select 'Move' menu item in Rox filer
causes crash. However middle mouse drag will move a Rox window by the title bar.
Yeah, I can confirm that.

...aargh! Another one. I have lost count how many bugs in JWM since I upgraded to 2.3.7 from 976 (svn revision number, 2.2 series).

I have just now tested 976, and the "Move" operation works.

Someone did mention that 976 does have a bug or two, but nothing that I have encountered. So, why upgrade?

That is a very good question. If 976 works, why not stay with it? Well, the theme PETs have differences -- however, all the jwm theme PETs in my 'noarch' repository have not yet been upgraded, except for two.

Yeah, I just don't want the hassles, maybe I'm rolling back.

EDIT:
Or not. Joe has fixed that "Move" crash bug:

https://github.com/joewing/jwm/issues/410

Some other bugs fixed also. So, maybe I will roll forward instead :)
Unable to compile latest jwm, revision 1670. Someone else has reported it, I added my confirmation:

https://github.com/joewing/jwm/issues/435
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#355 Post by BarryK »

BarryK wrote:
BarryK wrote:
don570 wrote:A right click and select 'Move' menu item in Rox filer
causes crash. However middle mouse drag will move a Rox window by the title bar.
Yeah, I can confirm that.

...aargh! Another one. I have lost count how many bugs in JWM since I upgraded to 2.3.7 from 976 (svn revision number, 2.2 series).

I have just now tested 976, and the "Move" operation works.

Someone did mention that 976 does have a bug or two, but nothing that I have encountered. So, why upgrade?

That is a very good question. If 976 works, why not stay with it? Well, the theme PETs have differences -- however, all the jwm theme PETs in my 'noarch' repository have not yet been upgraded, except for two.

Yeah, I just don't want the hassles, maybe I'm rolling back.

EDIT:
Or not. Joe has fixed that "Move" crash bug:

https://github.com/joewing/jwm/issues/410

Some other bugs fixed also. So, maybe I will roll forward instead :)
Unable to compile latest jwm, revision 1670. Someone else has reported it, I added my confirmation:

https://github.com/joewing/jwm/issues/435
Joe responded real quick and fixed it. Now compiling 1675, ha ha, now getting "dead" windows:

https://github.com/joewing/jwm/issues/437

...there are new <Mouse> tags, without which jwm is broken.
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#356 Post by don570 »

I've noticed that version 0.6.4 is slow to install even small pet packages.
I wonder if the creating and updating of defaults.list is causing this.

I've noticed a standard defaults.list at WOOF-CE
https://github.com/puppylinux-woof-CE/w ... aults.list

A long as it listed GIMP and mtpaint as compatible to PNG format it
would work with mypaint.
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#357 Post by don570 »

Version 0.6.4 is great for translating scripts to create .mo files.
The new momanager allows changing of the LANG variable from
German to French very easy.

However there is one problem I noticed -->

When I change from German to French or one language to another using the Startup setup app
there is a bizarre wait period of half a minute and then restart X occurs!!!
With other versions of puppy linux I get a warning and then the restarting of X occurs immediately.

I wonder if this problem occurs because I have installed easy 0.6.4 to a USB stick and my hard drives have shut off from non-use.
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#358 Post by don570 »

I have a similar problem to user HERE
but it has nothing to do with setting time or LANG.

It isn't as bad . Easy 0.6.4 boots up nicely , then after about a minute it
blacks out, but then there is an automatic restartx.

The desktop comes back and the computer is now stable. :lol:

My only explanation is that the bootup process has made the computer memory scrambled
and the 'restartx' has fixed the memory allocation
so the computer is now stable.

Perhaps during bootup you are rushing to the desktop too fast and not
using the right procedure.

I use an IBM thinkcentre with 2.5 gb of memory.
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You posted some useful suggestions HERE
I'll give them a try.
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#359 Post by BarryK »

don570 wrote:Start Menu > RestartX
allows me to login as root but then I can't get a desktop, so I must
reboot.
I don't understand. If I choose menu "Shutdown -> Restart X server", it restarts X and I am back on the desktop. Login is not required.

So, you must be meaning something else?
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don570 wrote: Pcurlftp filesharing app seems to need more software running to work.
Does ftp need to running?
Yeah, it has bugs. There is a later version, with fixes by SFR.

However, I have removed it, as perhaps as I am now embracing samba, it causes confusion having /root/File-Sharing
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#361 Post by BarryK »

don570 wrote:pclock can be installed , but because pmusic isn't installed there needs to be a line changed to use 'aplay'

...change line 452 to...

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 pschedule -s -e "aplay '$ALARM'" "pClock Alarm" &
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http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... 554#978554
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#362 Post by BarryK »

don570 wrote:Version 0.6.4 is great for translating scripts to create .mo files.
The new momanager allows changing of the LANG variable from
German to French very easy.

However there is one problem I noticed -->

When I change from German to French or one language to another using the Startup setup app
there is a bizarre wait period of half a minute and then restart X occurs!!!
With other versions of puppy linux I get a warning and then the restarting of X occurs immediately.

I wonder if this problem occurs because I have installed easy 0.6.4 to a USB stick and my hard drives have shut off from non-use.
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By "Startup setup app" do you mean QuickSetup?

I tested, ran quicksetup from a terminal, used the flags to select different languages, and each time, after hitting the OK button, and choose to restart X, it restarted immediately.
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#363 Post by don570 »

don570 wrote:
Start Menu > RestartX
allows me to login as root but then I can't get a desktop, so I must
reboot.


I don't understand. If I choose menu "Shutdown -> Restart X server", it restarts X and I am back on the desktop. Login is not required.

So, you must be meaning something else?
I was referring to the original version of Easy 0.6.4 . I tried 'restartx' from start menu.
I got the black console and I typed 'xwin', but I couldn't get to the desktop.

I now have read your fix
edit this file, /etc/rc.d/BOOTCONSTRAINED so that the last two lines have "no",
and I haven't had any problems getting to the desktop since.
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#364 Post by don570 »

I have been testing why I get a strange slowing down of my mouse.
My mouse becomes so slow that it seems like my computer has crashed, but it hasn't.

The mouse is unusable so I have to reboot.

My observation:
I open a htm document with the browser and try xine with some videos. After about 5 minutes the freezing of the mouse occured unexpectedly.

I noticed in the tray that there is a sudden spike up in memory use.
There is no reason for this.

I tried like you suggested and left terminal window out to spot anything
unusual, but it doesn't show anything unusual except that
VSZ is high for Xine and Mozilla.


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[H[JMem: 2538520K used, 19064K free, 1772536K shrd, 89136K buff, 2093404K cached
CPU:  20% usr   8% sys   0% nic  70% idle   0% io   0% irq   0% sirq
Load average: 1.38 0.93 0.55 2/168 9043
[7m  PID  PPID USER     STAT   VSZ %VSZ CPU %CPU COMMAND[0m
 7636  7634 root     S     948m  38%   1  12% xine --no-splash /mnt/sdc1/Blender
 1238  1237 root     R <  1592m  63%   1   8% X :0 -br -nolisten tcp
 9043  8534 root     R     1116   0%   1   4% top
 8023  1688 root     S    1937m  77%   1   0% mozilla file:///mnt/sdc1/Bills%20a
 1617     1 root     S     269m  11%   1   0% /usr/sbin/smbd -D
 1661  1617 root     S     269m  11%   0   0% {lpqd} /usr/sbin/smbd -D
 1631  1617 root     S     265m  11%   1   0% {smbd-notifyd} /usr/sbin/smbd -D
 1632  1617 root     S     265m  11%   1   0% {cleanupd} /usr/sbin/smbd -D
 6412  1688 root     S     218m   9%   1   0% geany /root/top.txt
 6413  1688 root     S     217m   9%   1   0% geany /root/top.txt
 1639     1 root     S     212m   8%   0   0% /usr/sbin/nmbd -D
 5361  1688 root     S     201m   8%   1   0% /usr/bin/sakura
 8530  1688 root     S     200m   8%   0   0% /usr/bin/sakura
 1688     1 root     S     164m   6%   1   0% {ROX-Filer} /usr/local/apps/ROX-Fi
 5021  4039 root     S     131m   5%   1   0% /tmp/gtkdialog_pmount --file=/tmp/
 1985  1982 root     S     127m   5%   0   0% retrovol -hide
 1403  1237 root     S     121m   5%   1   0% jwm
 1947  1944 root     S     119m   5%   0   0% pmcputemp
 1929  1926 root     S     118m   5%   1   0% /root/Startup/network_tray
 1860  1858 root     S     118m   5%   1   0% /root/Startup/freememapplet_tray

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I also tried booting up with no desktop and giving the machine
commands. It was rock solid.

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