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BarryK
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PostPosted: Fri 23 Feb 2018, 03:54    Post subject:  

Have been busy, implemented a Service Manager for EasyOS and Quirky:

http://bkhome.org/news/201802/pupevent-service-manager.html

Done that, now I will look at rerwin's above post!

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PostPosted: Fri 23 Feb 2018, 04:17    Post subject:  

BarryK wrote:
Have been busy, implemented a Service Manager for EasyOS and Quirky:

http://bkhome.org/news/201802/pupevent-service-manager.html

Done that, now I will look at rerwin's above post!



Hi Barry & all,

Nice, on the new Service Manager. In your link above to the page about it, it says at the bottom:

"...So, this Service Manager will only be in the next releases of EasyOS and Quirky. However, it will be possible to create a PET package for other pups and puplets...."

If you and/or anyone creates this Pet, could they post it here (or somewhere in one of the sub-forums for "Additional Software (Pets & stuff)" w/ a notice in this thread) so I could try the new Service Manager in some of my other pups?

Thank you Wink
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BarryK
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PostPosted: Fri 23 Feb 2018, 06:12    Post subject: Re: Further networking improvements  

rerwin wrote:
I have continued to work on refinements to networking in Easy


rerwin's post is above. Link:

http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=982596#982596

I have implemented the upgrade to Frisbee 1.4.7 and other network fixes, see blog post:

http://bkhome.org/news/201802/network-upgrading-for-frisbee-147.html

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don570


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PostPosted: Sat 24 Feb 2018, 13:30    Post subject: To format a SD card in linux  

A tip from James Bond...

To format a SD card in linux ...
First zero out card, then format with gparted.


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just do "dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/<flash-drive-device-name> bs=1M count=1". After doing this Gparted will regard you flash drive as completely empty and will offer to create a new MS-DOS partition table - which you should accept.
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PostPosted: Sat 24 Feb 2018, 13:32    Post subject:  

A gui for mpscan
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BarryK
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PostPosted: Wed 28 Feb 2018, 20:52    Post subject:  

OK, version 0.8 released, see blog announcement:

http://bkhome.org/news/201803/easyos-pyro64-08-released.html

The kernel is now 4.14.20, has the nvm driver, requested by scsijon.

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PostPosted: Thu 01 Mar 2018, 05:35    Post subject:  

Just thinking, what is stopping me from bumping this up to "beta quality", then final 1.0...

Two things mostly.

Firstly, the instability on some systems, hanging.

Secondly, the immaturity of the container mechanism. I haven't worked on that for sometime.

The instability bothers me more than anything, as I can't reproduce it myself, and have no idea whether it is caused by the design of EasyOS (the way the layered filesystem and partitions are put together), or just some buggy software somewhere, such as something eating up file handles, or a memory leak.

Whatever, it seems to only be on certain hardware.

I will think about what to do, to test this problem.

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PostPosted: Thu 01 Mar 2018, 07:31    Post subject:  

0.8: Excellent, no instability on any of my kit. Only problem is ADI 1888 sound chip not recognised and not sure how to load extra drivers, if available. Think method has been described before but forget - HW more my end of the business.
Only other comment - not sure default saving of my wlan p/w onto USB stick is always best strategy for a portable OS?!
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PostPosted: Thu 01 Mar 2018, 07:48    Post subject:  

I have had a thought about a possible cause for instability, involving aufs/overlay.

Would appreciate feedback, from anyone who has this lockup problem.

Running Easy on the same PC that experiences the lockup, do you have this file?:

/mnt/q_ro/q.sfs

If yes, it means that q.sfs was copied into RAM at bootup (by the init script in initrd).

If no, then q.sfs is mounted from where it is in the working partition, on /mnt/q_ro/q_sfs

There is a possibility that the latter case is causing a problem for aufs.
Maybe.

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PostPosted: Thu 01 Mar 2018, 07:52    Post subject:  

Sage wrote:
0.8: Excellent, no instability on any of my kit. Only problem is ADI 1888 sound chip not recognised and not sure how to load extra drivers, if available. Think method has been described before but forget - HW more my end of the business.
Only other comment - not sure default saving of my wlan p/w onto USB stick is always best strategy for a portable OS?!


Was that sound chip recognised by any other pups? That is, out-of-the-box without needing an extra driver to be installed?

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PostPosted: Thu 01 Mar 2018, 10:18    Post subject:  

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Was that sound chip recognised by any other pups? That is, out-of-the-box without needing an extra driver to be installed?

Other issues have popped up - investigating. ADI signs on as SiS SI 7012 on ECS7610ultra board. Difficult to get 'Mute' to stay off and chosen %vol to stay selected between boots. New problem, loaded devx and lost video! Lots more to look at, probably reload and start again.
As for sound on other Pups, X-Slacko-Slim 4.4r10 sound works on a lot of these old boards now, didn't in previous versions, but that is primarily a 32bit offering which has been tested on 32bit machines, so need to run it on some 64bit machines as well. Also need to check BIOS settings as the old stuff often needs new battery and BIOS reset.
Later:
The default sound settings allows mute/unmute and settings levels to be set - no sound. Run ALSA utility - no supported cards?
Run on P4 system with same onboard SI7012 - sound working.
Hmmm. Looks like an HW fault then. That's not entirely unknown on elderly kit. Will try to install discrete PCI sound card tomorrow....

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PostPosted: Thu 01 Mar 2018, 12:14    Post subject:  

Arp scan is bigger in size but it picks up a computer that mpscan can't
(because of a crossover ethernet cable I built)
http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=984450#984450
I also use getlocalip
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PostPosted: Thu 01 Mar 2018, 14:11    Post subject: /mnt/q_ro/q.sfs  

To Barry,

Thanks for good version 0.8 on usb.

Yes this is in its correct folder: /mnt/q_ro/q.sfs

So on here without any instability,
it means that q.sfs was copied into RAM at bootup
(by the init script in initrd).

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Here is a nice pupRadio little portable radio icon to save to a private folder
and then drag to pupRadio properties:

https://www.google.co.uk/search?dcr=0&source=hp&ei=NjmYWpz3B6aFgAaH05fQCQ&q=download+Iconshock-Real-Vista-Multimedia-Radio.ico&oq=download+Iconshock-Real-Vista-Multimedia-Radio.ico&gs_l=psy-ab.3..33i160k1.2483.283609.0.329483.94.72.22.0.0.0.228.6862.57j14j1.72.0....0...1.1.64.psy-ab..0.64.5205...0j0i131k1j0i13k1j0i22i30k1j33i22i29i30k1.0.nVod0PTlJF4

Just copy/paste in SM the above URL.

Regards.
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Cu Chulinux


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PostPosted: Fri 02 Mar 2018, 13:56    Post subject:  

Hi Barry,

My laptop that I've been playing around with Easy and Quirky on is one with the instabilities. Toshiba P55W-C5200 model.

Tried latest versions, the instabilities appear after initial setup and rebooting. Basically the computer becomes unresponsive and I have to hard reset. Usually first the keyboard dies then the pointer shortly after that. Up until first reboot it all seemed to run fine.

Easy 0.8 and 0.6.8 Xerus I checked /mnt/q_ro and there is both a q.sfs and a q_sfs.

Because var points to tmp/var there are no logs to check after rebooting. I am going to try rebooting and dmesg >> file over and over until it acts up to see what messages I get. I'll report back what turns up.

Eventually I'll try booting my desktop with an Easy usb to test it there. It currently runs FreeBSD.

Add: btw the laptop works flawlessly with both Fatdog64 and Xenialpup 7.5
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PostPosted: Sat 03 Mar 2018, 05:54    Post subject:  

don570 wrote:
Arp scan is bigger in size but it picks up a computer that mpscan can't
(because of a crossover ethernet cable I built)
http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=984450#984450
I also use getlocalip


Easy/Quirky and the pups have a lot of these scanner utilities. I did make a list of them, that are builtin to Easy/Quirky. Um, where did I put that?...

Not sure if this is complete, but these are all the scanner/probing type utilities that I can think of, all in Easy/Quirky, and probably in other pups:

nslookup
pscan
nbtscan
nmap
arp-scan
pnscan
mpscan


nmap might not be in other pups, and I only recently included it in Easy/Quirky builds. Coz it is a bit big.

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