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#31 Post by rcrsn51 »

There are two lzop PETs - 32bit and 64bit. Are you using the right ones?

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#32 Post by frenchiveruti »

rcrsn51 wrote:There are two lzop PETs - 32bit and 64bit. Are you using the right ones?
Oooh DUDEEE I never saw that description!
Hahahaha
Srry!

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#33 Post by bigpup »

This is a bump, so this very good program, gets some daylight in the forum.
I hate the way stuff goes deeper and deeper, into the pages of this forum.
A lot of good programs, are lost, when they get 40, 50, 60 70, pages down, into forum sections.

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I suggest you put the download, for the latest version of the 32bit and 64bit, in the first post of this topic.
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#34 Post by rcrsn51 »

bigpup wrote:I suggest you put the download, for the latest version of the 32bit and 64bit, in the first post of this topic.
There is only one version of SaveFolderBackup. The 32/64bit refers to the optional lzop packages, as is already stated.

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Re: Save Folder Backup and Restore

#35 Post by bigpup »

This is the first post in this topic.
Where does it say SaveFolderBackup pet package will work on 32bit or 64bit Puppy versions?

If you are going to post the 32bit version of lzop pet on this first post.
Make it easy to find the 64 bit version, by also putting it in the first post.

You may think putting a note in the comment for the lzop 32bit pet will always be seen by people.
Not! :shock: :lol:
Peoples minds do not always work that way :!: :roll: :lol: :lol: :lol:



rcrsn51 wrote:Update: SaveFolderBackup v1.2 also works with save files. Drag the file into the selection box.

Hint: The best way to use SaveFolderBackup is to backup/restore Puppy X by working from another Puppy Y. Puppy Y could be on a bootable flash drive that also stores the image files.

Doing "hot" backups of save files can lead to big trouble when you try to restore them. But I've had good luck doing it with save folders. YMMV.

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SaveFolderBackup makes a backup copy of your Puppy save folder by compressing it into a single image file and storing it in another location. You can then restore it if needed. Because the backup image is a file, you can store it anywhere, like on a FAT32 flash drive.

Install the PET and look in the Utility menu.

SaveFolderBackup uses lzop compression. All Puppies have lzop via Busybox, but the "full" version attached below is faster. The PET is built from Debian packages.

You can also use SFB to backup/restore any collection of data. It puts a ".sfb" extension on the image files to distinguish them from other archiving formats.

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#36 Post by bigpup »

Doing "hot" backups of save files can lead to big trouble when you try to restore them. But I've had good luck doing it with save folders. YMMV.
I wonder if it would not be a problem, as long as the save file or folder, was not being written to, when the backup was being made.
If auto save was setup to not activate.
No other programs running in background.
If it only backs up the already written save and gets nothing from the save ramdisk.

Another save backup program has this help info.
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#37 Post by glene77is »

bigpup wrote:
Doing "hot" backups of save files can lead to big trouble when you try to restore them.
But I've had good luck doing it with save folders. YMMV.


>>> Good Point.
Good that you mention this "caveat" .


"Hot Backup" script on the "Current SaveFILE/SaveFOLDER".
that only works if SnapMergePuppy has finished
is not a "SAFE" "Hot Backup" .


As we recall, from reading the original "SaveFolderBackup v1.2" code.
it calls SnapMergePuppy ('SMP') prior to calling the compression function.
We are guessing that this would probably beat 'SMP' to the punch
... but that is not guaranteed.
'SMP' should be disabled from auto-save.

We only use "saveFOLDER" method ,
and SnapMergePuppy auto-save is disabled.
We wrote our own Save2Flash routine, iconed on desktop,
and purposely disabled auto-save.
We do not use SaveFolderBackup v1.2 ,
instead we wrote our own,
with the goal of being "Simple", "Readable", "Modifiable".
When we wrote "B2T" ..
we did not call for SnapMergePuppy.

IMO, The best method is to use saveFOLDER,
and disable the auto-save,
and do frequent 'HotBackups"
letting a DateTimeSeconds stamp prevent duplications.
"rc.shutdown" still 'asks-to-save', on a 3 second wait.

We used the original "SaveFolderBackup v1.2" for a long time,
but when we changed our systems,
we are not mounted on "/Mnt/Home/"
and the program was cumbersum in the Select-Box
... so we wrote our own which pulls controlling Source and Target info
directly from '/etc/rc.d/PUPSTATE' and automating our standard input.
Early this year we re-wrote it to be "Simple" "Readable" "Modifiable"
We can use it as a "tutorial" script, with good results.

So, that is the method we use with "B2T" in our systems.
[ B2T presented at
http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=118076

In the long run, for any amount of money paid for our projects,
we cannot protect the user from himself.

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