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Trouble with Slacko64 on my MacBook5,2
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easyaspi314

Joined: 14 Apr 2017
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Location: Massachusetts

PostPosted: Thu 20 Apr 2017, 17:40    Post subject:  Trouble with Slacko64 on my MacBook5,2
Subject description: It hates me. :(
 

Hi, I'm new here and to Puppy Linux. However, I am pretty familiar with Linux, and the Linux shell as I have used it for about 5-6 years.

I have searched for guides to setting this thing up and haven't found anything useful. Just a bunch of bits and pieces that don't make a whole.

Specific information about your computer

What is it? A computer. Ohhh, you wanted specifics. OK. A laptop. Razz

Computer common name: MacBook (13-inch, Mid 2009) - Note the complete lack of "Air" or "Pro". Yep, entry level blues.
Model: MacBook5,2
Native OS: Mac OS X 10.11.6 "El Capitan" (apple y u no sierra? Crying or Very sad)
Processor: 2.13 GHz Intel Core 2 Duo
RAM: 4 GB DDR2 RAM
Graphics: NVIDIA GeForce 9400m 512 MB - I use nouveau drivers. Maybe I should try proprietary, but those have had a history with me on my old Dell.
Display: The ugliest MacBook display you'll ever see: 13.3" 1280x800 TFT.
USB drive: 8GB Lexar JumpDrive v20 (the older solid colored ones)

What Puppy version?

Slacko64 6.3.2 (UEFI).

How Puppy is installed?

Frugal on flash drive.
1GB FAT32 (I know, I could use FAT) partition has both Slacko32 and Slacko64 (I made a clever grub.cfg to automagically choose between the two because my Mac can't use Xorg on Slacko32, and my desktop prefers 32-bit). Slacko64 and Slacko32 have savefiles on their own ~3GB ext2 partitions. IDK why I didn't just folder it.

Describe your question or problem with the idea that you are our eyes. We only know what you tell us.

Okay, so I think it is safe to say that my MacBook officially hates me.

Three quarters of the time, I boot to GRUB, press Enter to start and it hangs for like 5-10 minutes on a blank screen until it boots.
3/16 of the time it starts to boot normally, but appears to freeze on loading kernel modules.
1/16 of the time, it boots like a good Mac.

So, as soon as I have it running, I get a bunch of issues.

  • It has already been very picky even booting in the first place. I have eventually figured out on my own that it needs the contents of efi.img on the root of the flash drive (so there is an EFI folder there).
  • Built-in WiFi doesn't work (I have an Edimax Nano USB dongle so it isn't that huge of an issue, but I'd like to be able to use USB and WiFi at the same time.) Apparently, it is cursed with the ever-so-picky Broadcom
  • Trackpad is stupid. It has no idea what it is, despite appletouch being loaded. It acts like a standard mouse with the addition of annoying tap-to-click. Synaptics doesn't recognize it at all.
  • Because the trackpad is stupid, it is impossible to right click without a USB mouse.
  • According to Ubuntu's guide for Maverick, I have edited the xorg.conf and it leads me with no way of inputting anything. Just a mouse on the middle of the screen that does nothing. Even when I attach a USB mouse or keyboard or press Ctrl+Alt+F2 or whatever. Power button works, though.
  • I can't find a straight xorg.conf. (I could potentially make a live USB of Ubuntu and try its automatically generated xorg.conf, but I'd rather not.
  • It has no idea it has a battery. /sys/class/power_supply/BAT0 (or whatever) exists and works normally, but nothing detects it. If I manually force it to load the "battery" module, BAT0 appears in /proc/acpi but it is empty.

The xorg.conf that refuses to work is attached.I have tried a few things.

Aside from the above issues, it works fine,

If you want anything from me, please tell me.

A side note: The BBCode here sucks.

If I sound like an idiot, sorry.
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cthisbear

Joined: 29 Jan 2006
Posts: 4104
Location: Sydney Australia

PostPosted: Fri 21 Apr 2017, 07:48    Post subject:  

Mate welcome to Puppy.

We've been a bit slack with your Slacko problems.

Although I hate Macs with a passion I thought I would do some research.

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" (so there is an EFI folder there) "

That seems to be what you need????

Probably better off to try another version off USB.

I hope some Maccy person here will assist you.
Hang in there.

Chris.

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http://www.canbike.org/information-technology/2013/03/09/usb-puppy-linux-on-macbook-unibody-2008.html

https://www.techonia.com/960/install-linuxmint-macbook


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Use Mac Linux USB Loader

https://www.howtogeek.com/213396/how-to-boot-a-linux-live-usb-drive-on-your-mac/

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Can I boot Linux (any distro?) from USB on a MacBook Air that has no hard drive?

[url]https://apple.stackexchange.com/questions/103535/can-i-boot-linux-any-distro-from-usb-on-a-macbook-air-that-has-no-hard-drive[/url]

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Success on Macbook 5,2 Karmic

https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1327758

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https://askubuntu.com/questions/71189/how-do-i-boot-the-live-cd-on-a-macbook-pro
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bigpup


Joined: 11 Oct 2009
Posts: 8573
Location: Charleston S.C. USA

PostPosted: Fri 21 Apr 2017, 10:17    Post subject:  

Thanks for giving us some useful information to work with!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Quote:
have savefiles on their own ~3GB ext2 partitions. IDK why I didn't just folder it.

Save files can be placed on any format.
Save folders will only work on a Linux format.

Quote:
(I made a clever grub.cfg

This could be causing your boot issues. I have no idea what you modified or how.

Puppy comes with Grub4dos boot loader.
This boot loader is modified for how Puppy works.

menu->System->Grub4dos Bootloader config
First screen choose where to install it.
Choose the USB flash drive.
Select search within only this device.
Leave all other options unchecked.
Hit Ok.
Hit OK.
Hit OK.
done.
This will install Grub4dos bootloader to the USB flash drive.

The config always makes an entry to boot Windows.
At the end of running the config it gives option to edit the menu.lst.
The menu.lst file is where all the Grub4dos entries are.

This Grub4dos config also makes a advanced boot menu.
This gives option to boot Puppy not using the save.
Good option to have if something goes wrong with the save.

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bigpup


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Location: Charleston S.C. USA

PostPosted: Fri 21 Apr 2017, 10:37    Post subject:  

Touchpad problems.

Have you tried to configure it?
menu->setup->Mouse keyboard wizard->Touchpad

This may help you.
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=102202

If this is a Mac from around 2009.
I do not think it needs anything to do with UEFI to boot.
I may be wrong. I have no Mac computers.

There are other Puppies that may support your hardware better.
Tahrpup 6.0.5
Slacko 5.7
Precise 5.7.1

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Built-in WiFi doesn't work (I have an Edimax Nano USB dongle so it isn't that huge of an issue, but I'd like to be able to use USB and WiFi at the same time.) Apparently, it is cursed with the ever-so-picky Broadcom

Broadcom support is a constant moving target. Evil or Very Mad Twisted Evil Shocked

To specifically understand what it is doing.

menu->Setup->Internet Connection Wizard->Wired or wireless LAN->Network Wizard

Network Wizard wireless connection steps.

1. Select Network Wizard
2. Select wlan0 (your network card may have a different description)
3. Select Wireless in the Configure wireless network box.
4. Select Scan and your ESSID should come up.
5. Select your ESSID and OK
6. Give a name to your profile
7. Most people use WPA/TKIP - select it or WPA2.
8. A box will open for you to write the WPA password. It is called a Shared Key. Enter the password.
9. Leave the other boxes as they are. Rarely do these need adjustment.
9. Select Save
10. Select Use This Profile
11. A box will appear showing Puppy trying to connect
12. A box will come up “REPORT ON TEST 0f wlan0CONNECTION”
13. Select Auto DHCP in the Configure interface box and it will go through a handshake routine. and declare itself successful
14. Select done

If something does not work.
What step?
You do what?
You see what?

Also make sure your system's time zone setting is correct - if not, many website's certificates then act as if they are expired, and the webpage won't display.

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When I was a kid I wanted to be older.... This is not what I expected Shocked
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bigpup


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PostPosted: Fri 21 Apr 2017, 10:47    Post subject:  

Mac support in general by Linux.

Seems to be getting better with newer Macs.

Macs, like other computer manufactures, have to give Linux a bone and provide the needed info, so Linux knows how the hardware is setup.

Puppy has several programs for battery monitoring in laptops.
The Puppy version developer tries to pick one that works for most hardware.

You can search on the forum for other battery monitoring programs to try.
Here is a good search to use:
http://puppylinux.us/psearch.html

Xorg.conf, in Puppy, is very much setup for how Puppy works.
Have to be careful what you modify.

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