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PostPosted: Wed 14 Jun 2017, 20:20    Post subject:  

Slacko 6.9.9.9 32bit K4.4.70, another puppy that supports overlayfs.
Thanks 01micko.

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PostPosted: Thu 15 Jun 2017, 03:30    Post subject:  

I have tried to measure my wifi connection, but it is so unstable that I can't get the same result twice. This is not because of Puppy.
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PostPosted: Thu 15 Jun 2017, 03:47    Post subject:  

bigpup wrote:
WIFI issue.

Using a new save on a new installation of Slacko 6.9.9.9 32bit K4.4.70

Anything in the save that would have something to do with the browser?

I think I will see what happens using a different browser other than Pale (new) Moon.

I guess Chrome will be different enough to not use same files.
Now, find a version of Chrome that will work in this Slacko 6.9.9.9


bigpup .. don't bother using an old chrome... full of security holes. For 32 bit use Vivaldi or Opera. take a look in the Setup menu, Setup >> Download Chrome, Vivaldi or Opera.. In 32 bit only Vivaldi and Opera are offered but they are based on Chromium (blink rendering engine - same as Chrome). There is a choice to make a pet or SFS and install it. I prefer SFS which makes it more portable. I'm quite liking Vivaldi but try whatever you want.

bigpup wrote:
I can try a different kernel, but if it works OK with no save, would changing kernel do anything about the save?


Absolutely. Saving session depends on Puppy's main thing - AUFS - which is absolutely kernel dependent.

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prehistoric wrote:
There is a great deal of redundant or irrelevant information in these logs. I've gzipped them so you can sort the wheat from the chaff.


Thanks for the logs. I'll sort through them when my brain is less chaff!

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PostPosted: Thu 15 Jun 2017, 05:09    Post subject:  

When I want to try a webkit/blink browser I usually try SlimJet. It is the only one that doesn't make me angry. Laughing

I haven't tried it for a while but when I do it's the slacko-14.0 one by OscarTalks
http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=97172&start=15

edit: Oh just my luck... looks like his "14.0.14.0" builds (the version out right now) don't work in Slacko 6.9.9.9
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PostPosted: Thu 15 Jun 2017, 09:10    Post subject:  

Still having trouble reproducing those network problems. Strong feeling that something involving multiple processes and networking is taking place, and not just with WiFi.

I'm seeing different kinds of messages from SNS which I thought I understood in other contexts. (Some problem also shows up with Frisbee or Dougal's networking wizard, but most of the time I use SNS due to familiarity.) When it says simply "Please wait..." I usually think of that as a general networking operation which might involve eth0, not WiFi. When it says "Please wait, attempting to connect to 'yournet' " I believe it is really dealing with WiFi. I'm at a loss to understand why I continue to see the first category of message after the first successful connection using a profile. Sometimes I find that deleting the profile, and going back to the more general setup of the interface then works. This is true even though the frequency and password for WiFi has not changed, and I can use WiFi on another device nearby. I'm also regularly seeing messages flash up and disappear before I can read them.

There could be a problem with the hardware in that laptop, but I don't believe it is as bad with other OSes. Need to run more experiments.

Added: though it is something of a miracle after the recent house cleaning, I have found a USB flash drive configured years ago specifically for that ancient laptop, and running Puppy 4.3.1. This boots up and connects without a problem. All it needed was the latest WiFi password.

Still later: eventually ran into a problem with Pupppy 4.3.1 and tried to set up networking again. Found I don't remember how to use Pwireless2. Scan never showed network. Back to slacko 6.9.9.9, now it doesn't see network. Wild idea: try to set up eth0, knowing this will fail. When I go back to seting up wlan0, it now sees wireless networks again.

This technique resembles a gambler's lucky socks.

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PostPosted: Thu 15 Jun 2017, 13:05    Post subject:  

Tested wireless on all 3 64-bit iso. All three connected with Frisbee but with slow speed.
Wifi usb dongle: Ralink rt2800usb

/var/log/messages:
Code:
Jun 15 18:58:13 puppypc22080 user.info kernel: wlan1: authenticate with cc:5d:4e:8c:81:04
Jun 15 18:58:13 puppypc22080 user.info kernel: wlan1: send auth to cc:5d:4e:8c:81:04 (try 1/3)
Jun 15 18:58:13 puppypc22080 user.info kernel: wlan1: authenticated
Jun 15 18:58:13 puppypc22080 user.info kernel: wlan1: associate with cc:5d:4e:8c:81:04 (try 1/3)
Jun 15 18:58:13 puppypc22080 user.info kernel: wlan1: RX AssocResp from cc:5d:4e:8c:81:04 (capab=0xc11 status=0 aid=6)
Jun 15 18:58:13 puppypc22080 user.info kernel: wlan1: associated
Jun 15 18:58:13 puppypc22080 daemon.debug dhcpcd[10018]: wlan1: executing `/lib/dhcpcd/dhcpcd-run-hooks' PREINIT
Jun 15 18:58:13 puppypc22080 daemon.debug dhcpcd[10018]: wlan1: executing `/lib/dhcpcd/dhcpcd-run-hooks' NOCARRIER
Jun 15 18:58:17 puppypc22080 daemon.info dhcpcd[10018]: eth0: waiting for carrier
Jun 15 18:58:17 puppypc22080 daemon.info dhcpcd[10018]: wlan1: waiting for carrier
Jun 15 18:58:17 puppypc22080 daemon.info dhcpcd[10018]: wlan1: carrier acquired
Jun 15 18:58:17 puppypc22080 daemon.warn dhcpcd[10018]: all: IPv6 kernel autoconf disabled
Jun 15 18:58:17 puppypc22080 daemon.debug dhcpcd[10018]: /proc/sys/net/ipv6/conf/all/accept_ra: No such file or directory
Jun 15 18:58:17 puppypc22080 daemon.warn dhcpcd[10018]: wlan1: IPv6 kernel autoconf disabled
Jun 15 18:58:17 puppypc22080 daemon.debug dhcpcd[10018]: /proc/sys/net/ipv6/conf/wlan1/accept_ra: No such file or directory
Jun 15 18:58:17 puppypc22080 daemon.debug dhcpcd[10018]: wlan1: executing `/lib/dhcpcd/dhcpcd-run-hooks' CARRIER
Jun 15 18:58:21 puppypc22080 daemon.info dhcpcd[10018]: DUID 00:01:00:01:20:d5:24:cd:34:21:09:0c:a4:e3
Jun 15 18:58:21 puppypc22080 daemon.info dhcpcd[10018]: wlan1: IAID 09:0c:a4:e3
Jun 15 18:58:21 puppypc22080 daemon.debug dhcpcd[10018]: wlan1: delaying IPv4 for 0.9 seconds
Jun 15 18:58:22 puppypc22080 daemon.debug dhcpcd[10018]: wlan1: using hwaddr 34:21:09:0c:a4:e3
Jun 15 18:58:22 puppypc22080 daemon.info dhcpcd[10018]: wlan1: soliciting a DHCP lease
Jun 15 18:58:22 puppypc22080 daemon.debug dhcpcd[10018]: wlan1: sending DISCOVER (xid 0xc966af0), next in 4.0 seconds
Jun 15 18:58:22 puppypc22080 daemon.info dhcpcd[10018]: wlan1: offered 10.0.0.100 from 10.0.0.138
Jun 15 18:58:22 puppypc22080 daemon.debug dhcpcd[10018]: wlan1: sending REQUEST (xid 0xc966af0), next in 3.2 seconds
Jun 15 18:58:23 puppypc22080 daemon.debug dhcpcd[10018]: wlan1: acknowledged 10.0.0.100 from 10.0.0.138
Jun 15 18:58:23 puppypc22080 daemon.info dhcpcd[10018]: wlan1: leased 10.0.0.100 for 86400 seconds
Jun 15 18:58:23 puppypc22080 daemon.debug dhcpcd[10018]: wlan1: renew in 43200 seconds, rebind in 75600 seconds
Jun 15 18:58:23 puppypc22080 daemon.debug dhcpcd[10018]: wlan1: writing lease `/var/lib/dhcpcd/dhcpcd-wlan1-Brendmo.lease'
Jun 15 18:58:23 puppypc22080 daemon.debug dhcpcd[10018]: wlan1: adding IP address 10.0.0.100/24
Jun 15 18:58:23 puppypc22080 daemon.info dhcpcd[10018]: wlan1: adding route to 10.0.0.0/24
Jun 15 18:58:23 puppypc22080 daemon.info dhcpcd[10018]: wlan1: adding default route via 10.0.0.138
Jun 15 18:58:23 puppypc22080 daemon.debug dhcpcd[10018]: wlan1: executing `/lib/dhcpcd/dhcpcd-run-hooks' BOUND
Jun 15 18:58:27 puppypc22080 daemon.debug dhcpcd[10018]: wlan1: ARP announcing 10.0.0.100 (1 of 2), next in 2.0 seconds
Jun 15 18:58:27 puppypc22080 daemon.info dhcpcd[10018]: wlan1: removing route to 10.0.0.0/24
Jun 15 18:58:29 puppypc22080 daemon.debug dhcpcd[10018]: wlan1: ARP announcing 10.0.0.100 (2 of 2)

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PostPosted: Fri 16 Jun 2017, 01:35    Post subject:  

Wifif issue.

Tried several different browsers.
That seems to have no affect!

Tried Slacko 6.9.9.9 32bit K3.16.43

Initial boot up no save.
Wifi connection did get setup, however it cuts off and on.
So, it is a problem from the start.

Xenialpup 7.0.8.1 32bit is using kernel 4.9.13
No wifi problems in it.

Idea I will test Slacko 6.9.9.9 with k4.9.13 and see what happens.

I will report!

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PostPosted: Fri 16 Jun 2017, 01:54    Post subject:  

Wifi issue is present in some Linux distro's as well. It's resolved by disabling IPV6. Hope it's not the case here.
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PostPosted: Fri 16 Jun 2017, 02:38    Post subject:  

Correction:
spoke too soon.
See following post.


Frugal install using save file.


Wifi issue success!!!!!! Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy

Slacko 6.9.9.9 32bit using firefox browser.

Changed the kernel to 4,9,13

Wifi seems to be working with no problems Exclamation Exclamation Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy

I used:

huge-4.9.13-xenial_ noPAE.tar.bz2

From here:
http://distro.ibiblio.org/puppylinux/huge_kernels/

Note:
This kernel does require me to use boot option nouveau.modeset=0 to boot to desktop.
I can live with this.
Seems to be required by my graphics hardware in the newer Linux kernels.
Well, until I change to a Nvidia driver.

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PostPosted: Fri 16 Jun 2017, 07:24    Post subject:  

Slacko 6.9.9.9 32bit FF k3.16 version.
Slimjet browser now starts and runs.
I removed the libudev.so.1 from the /lib slimjet sub-directory as it seems to be causing a conflict and is not needed. This library is present in the system. See here:-
http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=957838#957838

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PostPosted: Fri 16 Jun 2017, 10:50    Post subject:  

Oscar's finding of dueling shared object libraries causing nondeterministic behavior with slimjet sounds right, but in the system with palemoon/newmoon I can't find a copy /lib with libudev.so.1, while the primary libudev.so.1 is a symbolic link to libudev.so.1.6.3.
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PostPosted: Fri 16 Jun 2017, 16:57    Post subject:  

NOTICE

NOT FIXED

Slacko 6.9.9.9 32bit

Wifi issue.



I spoke too soon.

Changing to the 4.9.13 kernel did not fix the problem.

It seemed to work after 2 reboots, but on the 3rd reboot, Wifi is back to very slow and cuts off and on.

What I have tried:
Different browsers.
Different kernels.
With and without save.
Seems to be affected most by using a save.
With wpa connection, without wpa, no difference.
Rebooted using Xenialpup 7.0.8.1 and wifi works no problems. So, indicates to me it is not bad hardware.
Posted requested log info, but it does not seem to show anything useful. Same info when it works and when it does not.

Have not tested with Slacko 64 bit, because I wanted to keep using 32bit drivers I know work in other Puppies.

Any ideas?? Idea Idea

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PostPosted: Fri 16 Jun 2017, 17:18    Post subject:  

Now posting from tahrpup 32 non PAE 6.0.5 on the same D600 laptop. Kernel is 3.14.58. Its WiFi is not great, but, so far, it seems consistent and usable.

(Aside: my order of flash drives came in, allowing me to run more experiments with different systems set up for this one machine.)

I am suspicious of a problem with udev like Oscar reported. This might explain why having a file on a save device is relevant.
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PostPosted: Fri 16 Jun 2017, 18:15    Post subject:  

Wifi issue.

Here are some log files for dhcpcd.

Notice difference in:
Code:
executing `/lib/dhcpcd/dhcpcd-run-hooks'


Wifi that has problems:
Quote:
if_addaddress6: Operation not supported
script_runreason: /lib/dhcpcd/dhcpcd-run-hooks: WEXITSTATUS 1
script_runreason: /lib/dhcpcd/dhcpcd-run-hooks: WEXITSTATUS 1
dhcpcd-6.8.2 starting
all: IPv6 kernel autoconf disabled
/proc/sys/net/ipv6/conf/all/accept_ra: No such file or directory
wlan0: if_disable_autolinklocal: Address family not supported by protocol
/proc/sys/net/ipv6/conf/wlan0/accept_ra: No such file or directory
wlan0: adding address fe80::fb71:cb03:1604:6ab
wlan0: pltime infinity, vltime infinity
wlan0: executing `/lib/dhcpcd/dhcpcd-run-hooks' PREINIT
wlan0: executing `/lib/dhcpcd/dhcpcd-run-hooks' CARRIER
DUID 00:01:00:01:20:d6:31:e8:74:c6:3b:45:c1:13
wlan0: IAID 3b:45:c1:13
wlan0: delaying IPv4 for 0.9 seconds
wlan0: reading lease `/var/lib/dhcpcd/dhcpcd-wlan0-bob\040pc-wireless.lease'
wlan0: rebinding lease of 192.168.1.2
wlan0: sending REQUEST (xid 0xdd54a300), next in 4.0 seconds
wlan0: acknowledged 192.168.1.2 from 192.168.1.1
wlan0: leased 192.168.1.2 for 86400 seconds
wlan0: renew in 43200 seconds, rebind in 75600 seconds
wlan0: writing lease `/var/lib/dhcpcd/dhcpcd-wlan0-bob\040pc-wireless.lease'
wlan0: adding IP address 192.168.1.2/24
wlan0: adding route to 192.168.1.0/24
wlan0: adding default route via 192.168.1.1
wlan0: executing `/lib/dhcpcd/dhcpcd-run-hooks' REBOOT
forking to background
forked to background, child pid 13288


Wifi that has no problems.
Quote:
dhcpcd[12983]: version 6.7.1-dropwait starting
dhcpcd[12983]: all: IPv6 kernel autoconf disabled
dhcpcd[12983]: /proc/sys/net/ipv6/conf/all/accept_ra: No such file or directory
dhcpcd[12983]: wlan0: IPv6 kernel autoconf disabled
dhcpcd[12983]: /proc/sys/net/ipv6/conf/wlan0/accept_ra: No such file or directory
dhcpcd[12983]: wlan0: adding address fe80::76c6:3bff:fe45:c113
dhcpcd[12983]: wlan0: pltime infinity, vltime infinity
dhcpcd[12983]: if_addaddress6: Operation not supported
dhcpcd[12983]: wlan0: executing `/lib/dhcpcd/dhcpcd-run-hooks' PREINIT
dhcpcd[12983]: wlan0: executing `/lib/dhcpcd/dhcpcd-run-hooks' CARRIER
dhcpcd[12983]: script_runreason: /lib/dhcpcd/dhcpcd-run-hooks: WEXITSTATUS 1
dhcpcd[12983]: DUID 00:01:00:01:20:5e:9b:92:74:c6:3b:45:c1:13
dhcpcd[12983]: wlan0: IAID 3b:45:c1:13
dhcpcd[12983]: wlan0: delaying IPv4 for 0.7 seconds
dhcpcd[12983]: wlan0: using ClientID 01:74:c6:3b:45:c1:13
dhcpcd[12983]: wlan0: soliciting a DHCP lease
dhcpcd[12983]: wlan0: sending DISCOVER (xid 0x6918393a), next in 4.0 seconds
dhcpcd[12983]: wlan0: offered 192.168.1.2 from 192.168.1.1
dhcpcd[12983]: wlan0: sending REQUEST (xid 0x6918393a), next in 4.1 seconds
dhcpcd[12983]: wlan0: acknowledged 192.168.1.2 from 192.168.1.1
dhcpcd[12983]: wlan0: probing for 192.168.1.2
dhcpcd[12983]: wlan0: ARP probing 192.168.1.2 (1 of 3), next in 1.1 seconds
dhcpcd[12983]: wlan0: ARP probing 192.168.1.2 (2 of 3), next in 1.6 seconds
dhcpcd[12983]: wlan0: ARP probing 192.168.1.2 (3 of 3), next in 2.0 seconds
dhcpcd[12983]: wlan0: leased 192.168.1.2 for 86400 seconds
dhcpcd[12983]: wlan0: renew in 43200 seconds, rebind in 75600 seconds
dhcpcd[12983]: wlan0: writing lease `/var/lib/dhcpcd/dhcpcd-wlan0.lease'
dhcpcd[12983]: wlan0: adding IP address 192.168.1.2/24
dhcpcd[12983]: wlan0: adding route to 192.168.1.0/24
dhcpcd[12983]: wlan0: adding default route via 192.168.1.1
dhcpcd[12983]: wlan0: executing `/lib/dhcpcd/dhcpcd-run-hooks' BOUND
dhcpcd[12983]: script_runreason: /lib/dhcpcd/dhcpcd-run-hooks: WEXITSTATUS 1
dhcpcd[12983]: forking to background
dhcpcd[12983]: forked to background, child pid 13141

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PostPosted: Fri 16 Jun 2017, 18:50    Post subject: wifi problems  

With a fresh install of Slacko 64 bit, 4.4.70, rc3, using sns to connect,
I don't seem to have any problems. (only 1 hour test)

But I had problems with wifi disconnecting and reconnecting a while back,
but after using peasywifi to connect, I had no problems.

http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=94501

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