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Quirky Pyro64 version 0.5 (alpha) -- and Pyro32
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TyroBGinner

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PostPosted: Fri 10 Nov 2017, 21:15    Post subject:  

Finally, a Puppy Linux version that uses a current kernel! Much thanks to Kauler.

I am very appreciative of having a large array of drivers and firmware incorporated into the distro - even if it means a larger size for the iso file. I have some pieces of newer hardware that got drivers into the kernel only recently...around version 4.13, I think.

Having a 64-bit processor and/or eight gigs of memory doesn't mean you're rich or spoiled. It just means that you're living in the current decade.

Onward and upward...
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Sage

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PostPosted: Sat 11 Nov 2017, 08:03    Post subject:  

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Having a 64-bit processor and/or eight gigs of memory doesn't mean you're rich or spoiled
No prizes for guessing where you live! You just don't get the RoW do you.}

Run into this video screen display issue previously reported for Easy with Pyro64. Using a SOTA 1Gb Radeon, multi outputs into my SOTA smart TV, cannot get any res. without the edgemost icons spilling off-screen. Checked out suggestions given previously, but my HW & TV specs are all good. Unable to pin down the root cause with my limited knowledge. Pyro32 on bog std. kit is OK.
...and:
Pyro32 won't detect wired NIC connection but OK on wifi. Pyro32 works well on TV @ 1280x1024 with no loss of icon display at edges.
1up, 1down.

BBC/iPlayer accepts log-ins, but fails to run under SM on either Pyro??? This may be a BBC thing. Expect Auntie's management, Westminster politicians and the Treasury to screw up, as usual. Limeys may wish to confirm - or otherwise.
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scsijon

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Location: the australian mallee

PostPosted: Fri 17 Nov 2017, 15:52    Post subject: Prepare your computer for booting Linux.html &some problems!  

Firstly, just a little note for BarryK,

For the instruction page "Prepare your computer for booting Linux.html"

I wonder if you should add a note before trying to shrink with windows disk manager to run the windows disk optimiser? Especially if the system has been used before and cleaned up by deleting applications. Just a thought.

EDIT1: Problem1
Just a queery, can someone tell me how to access the equivalent of the old JWM Configuration Manager's "Tray Configuration Options" page please, I can't find it and manually setting the config file under /root is not working.

EDIT2
OK, I just came across ARChon in the unsorted area http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=102884, and considering what's now available on android, I wonder if this package should not now be considered a usefull addition to puppy as it seems to let us run android apps on puppy (even if in a chrome browser). Maybe there is even a mod or another for seamonkey out there.

EDIT3: Problem2
Your startup page "file:///usr/share/doc/home.htm" needs it's first link updating, it's looking at the old blog site.

Just got a Lenovo ideapad 110S-11|BR cheap (their at eol but lightweight without falling backwards all the time, small enough to be very portable, and good enough for me to use for writing storyboards with), it's a 64bit Celeron 3060 with 4gig of ram and it seems to like Pyro64 so far as i've tested. It's not bad for a 11.6" 16:9 screened system. Only strange thing it's using a Sandisk Ultra DF4032 (32GB) mounted on the motherboard for storage and that appears not as a hard drive but as a Full Sized SD Card in the desktop with hardinfo and pup-sysinfo showing it as a USB Device. I shall in time upgrade and add a 256GB SSD as there is an internal spot for it to plug in and Levano is nice enough to have online a PDF Repair Manual for the model that shows how to add it. On top of that is the ability to setup the bios to run in either UEFI OR Legacy mode. I'll await barry's beta version to install though.

EDIT4: Problem3
PKGget Package Manager and it's :configure page are not sizing themselves to the screen, even when the fullscreen button (square) is pressed. PPM is remaining small horizontally while extending below the screen vertically and the :configure screen is extending to the right and below the available screen and therefore no access to these "hidden" areas..

EDIT5: How to add a SWAP Partition
I built some "spare" space at the end of the 16gig usb drive when I loaded it with pyro64 "for future use" in case I needed for some reason to add another partition. Having played with Pyro64 for a while I had the idea of changing it from a blank partition to 4gig of swap and see if pyro would pick it up. This might help those with low ram pc's as I had noted when reading the thread backwards that there were a few 'available memory space' problems.
Test 1: when starting the laptop, I dynamically added to the end of the startup script qfix=swapon, and it was shown to be used when it started up.
Test 2: I just let it run without changing the startup script and it still picked it up, so with a little thought when 'loading' the usb you are no longer limited to just the ram available, you can have some swap space also.

So, to a 16gig usb you have partitions like after initial installation but not yet used:
sdb1 a vfat32 boot partition
sdb2 a ext4 / partition
BEFORE STARTING FROM THE USB DRIVE the first time
Add with gparted:
AT THE END OF THE USB NOT EARLIER
as sdb3 a linux-swap partition of 4GB (4096MB)
leaving any extra space between sdb2 and the new sdb3's swap partition
Only then, shutdown the system, restart using the usb for the first time
And after iut's up, opening a Console Screen and typing swapon (or swapon -s) you should see something like:
NAME TYPE SIZE Used PRIO
/dev/sdb3 partition 4G 0B -1

this shows a 4GB Partition assigned as a swap partition is active.

I'll add more here as I find them until BarryK releases his update, then i'll start a new post when I find something worth posting about.

Hope his bushwalking is going well.

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Sage

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PostPosted: Today, at 13:46    Post subject:  

supra
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...BBC/iPlayer accepts log-ins, but fails to run under SM on either Pyro???


The old enemies strike again. Auntie, MS, Tory Party & Adobe. Hoops to jump through for iPlayer:
- must register with BBC now
- need to load FP

Further testing: subjectively Pyro32 seems to be working more reliably on 32&64 bit machines? Might be illusory? Other feedback?
Would be helpful if the wired network failure could be rectified on both as well as reducing the size and load times. Maybe some of these are mutually exclusive?
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