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mp in repository

#31 Post by don570 »

I can only use mp editor in nox :cry:
version 3.2.13 is old so it supports only ascii characters.


http://distro.ibiblio.org/quirky/quirky ... -64.tar.xz

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nano when it compiled for minimum size only supports ascii characters too.

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Re: mp in repository

#32 Post by L18L »

don570 wrote:I can only use mp editor in nox :cry:
If I recall correctly I have been using editor vi
:wink: (write: "esc : w") (quit: "esc : q")

My intel experience
My Pyro64 is on 8G USB stick
I have put it into my other box Acer Aspire R3-131T
Booted to command line
launched xorgwizard
chose intel ...

..and got a graphical desktop (1366x768) on that computer
drm_kms_helper did not hurt
unchanged 20-gpudriver.conf did not hurt

I like Quirky Pyro64 :D

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#33 Post by FeodorF »

If anybody needs some screen drivers for further testing of 'pyro64-0.2' you'll find them at: 'Slacko64-6.3.2'
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#34 Post by FeodorF »

Success!
Adding direct rendering to pyro64-0.2:

Slacko64-6.3.2.sfs/usr/lib64/libGLEW.so.1.9.0
Slacko64-6.3.2.sfs/usr/bin/glxinfo
Slacko64-6.3.2.sfs/usr/bin/glxgears
  • f.e. /usr/bin/glxinfo
    ...
    OpenGL vendor string: Intel Open Source Technology Center
    OpenGL renderer string: Mesa DRI Intel(R) 965Q
    OpenGL version string: 2.1 Mesa 17.0.2
    OpenGL shading language version string: 1.20
    ...
  • Section "Device"
    ### Values: <i>: integer, <f>: float, <bool>: "True"/"False",
    ### <string>: "String", <freq>: "<f> Hz/kHz/MHz",
    ### <percent>: "<f>%"
    ### [arg]: arg optional
    #Option "Accel" # [<bool>]
    #Option "AccelMethod" # <str>
    #Option "Backlight" # <str>
    #Option "CustomEDID" # <str>
    Option "DRI" # <str>
    #Option "Present" # [<bool>]
    #Option "ColorKey" # <i>
    #Option "VideoKey" # <i>
    #Option "Tiling" # [<bool>]
    #Option "LinearFramebuffer" # [<bool>]
    #Option "HWRotation" # [<bool>]
    #Option "VSync" # [<bool>]
    #Option "PageFlip" # [<bool>]
    #Option "SwapbuffersWait" # [<bool>]
    #Option "TripleBuffer" # [<bool>]
    #Option "XvPreferOverlay" # [<bool>]
    #Option "HotPlug" # [<bool>]
    #Option "ReprobeOutputs" # [<bool>]
    #Option "XvMC" # [<bool>]
    #Option "ZaphodHeads" # <str>
    #Option "VirtualHeads" # <i>
    #Option "TearFree" # [<bool>]
    #Option "PerCrtcPixmaps" # [<bool>]
    Identifier "card0"
    Driver "intel" #card0driver
    EndSection
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Re: Ye olde Minimum Profit

#35 Post by BarryK »

L18L wrote:
don570 wrote:Compiled Ye olde Minimum Profit, result:

- Menu is ok

- no unicode (öäüßÄÖÜ° for German, other languages [just es it nl ] will have others)
mp-3.3.17/TODO wrote:Pending Enhancements
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* 1007: Add Unicode support.

:cry:

EDIT
mp-5.2.10 ' s TODO contains:

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Closed
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 * 1276: Fix win32 processing of Unicode characters
   (Mon, 27 Jul 2009 16:52:20 +0200).

Wait and see..

EDIT ...2 minutes later
SUCCESS
see capture2630
Version 3.3.18b was the last in the 3.x series. I wonder if that improved unicode support?
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Re: Ye olde Minimum Profit

#36 Post by BarryK »

L18L wrote:mp-5.2.10 ' s TODO contains:

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Closed
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 * 1276: Fix win32 processing of Unicode characters
   (Mon, 27 Jul 2009 16:52:20 +0200).

Wait and see..

EDIT ...2 minutes later
SUCCESS
The reason that I did not use that version, is could not figure out how to fix the <home> and <end> keys. They did not move the cursor to beginning and end of a line.

The 5.x series does not use /etc/mprc or ~/.mprc, has some other way of configuring.

L18L, if you can solve that one, I will definitely consider moving to 5.2.10!
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#37 Post by don570 »

Version 3.3.18b was the last in the 3.x series. I wonder if that improved unicode support?
It's easy to check if a text editor supports unicode.
Just create a UTF-8 text file with strange foreign characters inside.
Then open the file with your text editor and
see if the foreign characters (such as öäüßÄÖÜ°) show in the window.

Compile with source...
http://distro.ibiblio.org/quirky/quirky ... 18b.tar.gz
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I did a full install of pyro to a partition using Barry's script,
but still getting message that Screen section of my xorg.conf
is not correct whereas xorgwizard message says everything is fine.
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#38 Post by musher0 »

Hello all.

Perhaps try Joe's Own Editor instead?

I've been using it for a few years on various Puppies and I never had a
UTF-8 problem with it, in or out of Xorg.

It's been around since 1988, development is still active, and it's almost
as powerful as geany.

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Re: Ye olde Minimum Profit

#39 Post by L18L »

BarryK wrote:Version 3.3.18b was the last in the 3.x series. I wonder if that improved unicode support?
This was the first one I have compiled and checked (Menu items contain utf8).

Then compiled 3.3.17 because you named it in your blog.

Then compiled 5.2.10
The reason that I did not use that version, is could not figure out how to fix the <home> and <end> keys. They did not move the cursor to beginning and end of a line.
No problem here:
Key labelled "Ende" moves cursor to end of line
Key labelled "Pos1" moves cursor to beginning of line
without any configuration, OOTB.

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dri for intel i915 and gma500

#40 Post by L18L »

don570 wrote:I did a full install of pyro to a partition using Barry's script,
but still getting message that Screen section of my xorg.conf
is not correct whereas xorgwizard message says everything is fine.
I did not use that script.
I have been using:

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xz --decompress --stdout pyro64-0.2-8gb.img.xz  > /dev/sdb
sync
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Result of latest experiment:

/etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/20-gpudriver.conf must be and stay

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 Section "Device"
    Identifier "gma500_gfx"
    Driver     "modesetting"
    Option     "SWCursor"       "ON"
 EndSection 
for intel poulsbo graphics (gma500) running modesetting driver.

For intel i915 gpu it must stay unchanged or not exist, tested on my 2 boxes.

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Re: Ye olde Minimum Profit

#41 Post by L18L »

L18L wrote:Then compiled 5.2.10
The reason that I did not use that version, is could not figure out how to fix the <home> and <end> keys. They did not move the cursor to beginning and end of a line.
No problem here:
Key labelled "Ende" moves cursor to end of line
Key labelled "Pos1" moves cursor to beginning of line
without any configuration, OOTB.
That was using a standard external keyboard.
With my convertible Acer Aspire R3-131T I had to hold additionally Fn key (the key between Ctrl and window)
SOLVED?

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CUPS V.2.2.2

#42 Post by FeodorF »

Success!

CUPS works great.

Tested with Samsung mono laser printer pet (64bit).


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LibreOffice V. 5.0.6.3

#43 Post by FeodorF »

As soon as you try to save a text file in LibreOffice it will pop up a warning message. Ref: LibreOffice V 5.0.6.3

LibreOffice V 5.1.2.2. works fine in Quirky Xerus 8.1.6 for x86_64.

I think this problem is related to my 'full installation to a partition'! I'll have to do more testing on this issue.

Did some more testing. It's not the file system.
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Re: dri for intel i915 and gma500

#44 Post by BarryK »

L18L wrote:
don570 wrote:I did a full install of pyro to a partition using Barry's script,
but still getting message that Screen section of my xorg.conf
is not correct whereas xorgwizard message says everything is fine.
I did not use that script.
I have been using:

Code: Select all

xz --decompress --stdout pyro64-0.2-8gb.img.xz  > /dev/sdb
sync
_________________

Result of latest experiment:

/etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/20-gpudriver.conf must be and stay

Code: Select all

 Section "Device"
    Identifier "gma500_gfx"
    Driver     "modesetting"
    Option     "SWCursor"       "ON"
 EndSection 
for intel poulsbo graphics (gma500) running modesetting driver.

For intel i915 gpu it must stay unchanged or not exist, tested on my 2 boxes.
Yes, interesting thing about that 20-gpudriver.conf. On my "new" middy-tower PC, which has Intel graphics but not poulsbro, that 20-gpudriver.conf caused xorg to choose the 'modesetting' driver.

I renamed it to 20-gpudriver.confHIDE, restarted X and got the intel driver.

So, next release will have it as /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/20-gpudriver.confHIDE, someone with poulsbro video can change the name.
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Re: Ye olde Minimum Profit

#45 Post by BarryK »

L18L wrote:
BarryK wrote:Version 3.3.18b was the last in the 3.x series. I wonder if that improved unicode support?
This was the first one I have compiled and checked (Menu items contain utf8).

Then compiled 3.3.17 because you named it in your blog.

Then compiled 5.2.10
The reason that I did not use that version, is could not figure out how to fix the <home> and <end> keys. They did not move the cursor to beginning and end of a line.
No problem here:
Key labelled "Ende" moves cursor to end of line
Key labelled "Pos1" moves cursor to beginning of line
without any configuration, OOTB.
Hmmm, <home> and <end> keys did not work for me OOTB.
I was using en_US-UTF8, if that is a factor.
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Re: Ye olde Minimum Profit

#46 Post by BarryK »

L18L wrote:
L18L wrote:Then compiled 5.2.10
The reason that I did not use that version, is could not figure out how to fix the <home> and <end> keys. They did not move the cursor to beginning and end of a line.
No problem here:
Key labelled "Ende" moves cursor to end of line
Key labelled "Pos1" moves cursor to beginning of line
without any configuration, OOTB.
That was using a standard external keyboard.
With my convertible Acer Aspire R3-131T I had to hold additionally Fn key (the key between Ctrl and window)
SOLVED?
Oh, I see, haven't tried that. There must be a place for fiddling with the key bindings, like the old mprc?
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Re: Ye olde Minimum Profit

#47 Post by L18L »

BarryK wrote:There must be a place for fiddling with the key bindings, like the old mprc?
There is: /usr/share/doc/mp-5/index.html
and I have found $HOME/.mprc

EDIT
.. and there is also a menu
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Ye olde Minimum Profit

#48 Post by L18L »

mp-5 is really nice under X.

But without X, Ctrl Alt F2, (we do need it in console mode for configuring X) I get:

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mp-5
No usable driver found: exiting.

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#49 Post by BarryK »

L18L wrote:
BarryK wrote:There must be a place for fiddling with the key bindings, like the old mprc?
There is: /usr/share/doc/mp-5/index.html
and I have found $HOME/.mprc

EDIT
.. and there is also a menu
I don't think that $HOME/.mprc works with the mp 5.x series, only the 3.x series.
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Re: Ye olde Minimum Profit

#50 Post by L18L »

BarryK wrote:I don't think that $HOME/.mprc works with the mp 5.x series, only the 3.x series.
Yes I see, you are right.
But without X, Ctrl Alt F2, (we do need it in console mode for configuring X) I get:
Code:
mp-5
No usable driver found: exiting.
Maybe this is just because my wrong configuration

Fatdog has mp-5.2.8
mp: This editor in this package can use terminal or gtk.
Tested OK.

But translations (in all versions) is a night mare
They have minimum-profit.mo
and seem to use only mpsl files in /usr/share/mp5/lang
e.g. de.mpsl

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/* Built by po2mpsl - Don't modify, change the .po file instead */
__I18N__ = {
	"" => "Project-Id-Version: Minimum Profit\nReport-Msgid-Bugs-To: \nPOT-Creation-Date: 2006-01-11 06:09+0100\nPO-Revision-Date: 2006-05-28 13:19+0100\nLast-Translator: Ronny Steiner <Post@SIRSteiner.de>\nLanguage-Team: \nMIME-Version: 1.0\nContent-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8\nContent-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit\n",
	"&File" => "&Datei",
	"&Edit" => "&Bearbeiten",
I have been starting to use our momanager,
use symlink mp-5 to minimum-profit
and got po and mo updated
but .mo is not used by the program.

No more wondering why they do not have more languages translated :lol:

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