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don570


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PostPosted: Sat 28 Oct 2017, 13:50    Post subject: You asked for packages for pyro64  

You asked for packages for pyro64...

An appimage version of mypaint is available HERE
however I can't get it
to use the external app feature. Crying or Very sad
https://github.com/mypaint/mypaint/commit/ae343869d5b2b12b64bc75e4e03abb7092112d01
https://community.mypaint.org/t/how-to-edit-file-assosiation-for-open-in-external-app-on-windows/120
https://community.mypaint.org/t/using-edit-with-external-app-tool-with-gimp/314
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PostPosted: Sat 28 Oct 2017, 19:47    Post subject:  

Quirky Pyro64 version 0.5 is out.

Announcement and d/l links here:

http://bkhome.org/news/201710/quirky-pyro64-05-released.html

Ah, it has propagated through to nluug:

https://ftp.nluug.nl/os/Linux/distr/quirky/quirky6/amd64/releases/pyro-0.5/

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PostPosted: Sun 29 Oct 2017, 13:07    Post subject:  

Perfect! .iso runs as a liveCD, no saves, BIOS machines, albeit time to make a cup of tea whilst it boots. The usually 'silent' majority may be hoping for a true 32bit live version for BIOS machines, as indicated in the recent Distrowatch Poll and Comments! Only a tiny minority of operators in the rich nations are messin' with tomorrow's UEFI/Secure Boot 8-core, 8Gb plastic tat in a fancy carry-case? 32bit runs on 64bit, the reverse isn't true...
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PostPosted: Sun 29 Oct 2017, 17:05    Post subject:  

Frugal install to internal HDD

Code:
Product Name: XPS M1530                       

Motherboard Vendor: Dell Inc.
Product Name: 0XR148

BIOS Vendor: Dell Inc.
Version: A12
Release Date: 11/19/2008

Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU T7250 @ 2.00GHz

Memory Allocation:
 Total RAM: 2006 MB

Xorg Startup Log (/var/log/Xorg.0.log):
+ Xorg Driver in use: nouveau
+ Loaded Modules: dbe dri2 evdev exa extmod fb fbdevhw glx shadowfb synaptics
+ X.Org version: 1.19.1

VGA controller [0300]: NVIDIA Corporation G84M [GeForce 8600M GT] [10de:0407] (rev a1)
+ Kernel Driver: nouveau
+ Memory Used by Driver: 1328.00 KB
+ Video RAM: 256M


Not had any luck with a full install though. Tried it with the installer script, and later using the universal installer from the frugal install. Booting with Grub4dos with the generated menu entry. It finds the kernel then hangs.

Also, the devx pet will not load. Tried via PPM and also a manual download, but it complains that there is not enough space (there is plenty).
Network (wifi), and sound working correctly, although wifi not connecting automatically on bootup.
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PostPosted: Sun 29 Oct 2017, 17:08    Post subject:  

Decided to try the live cd as well.Looking good so I'll explore more later.

Wouldn't mind a 32 bit version as well because I'm still running a lot of old hardware too.

Code:
# inxi -Fxx
Resuming in non X mode: glxinfo not found. For package install advice run: inxi --recommends
System:    Host: puppypc28884 Kernel: 4.13.9 x86_64 (64 bit gcc: 6.3.0)
           Desktop: JWM 2.3.7 dm: N/A Distro: Quirky 0.5 pyro64
Machine:   Device: desktop Mobo: ASUSTeK model: M5A97 LE R2.0 v: Rev 1.xx serial: 150545593600028
           UEFI: American Megatrends v: 2601 date: 03/24/2015
CPU:       Hexa core AMD FX-6300 Six-Core (-MCP-) cache: 12288 KB
           flags: (lm nx sse sse2 sse3 sse4_1 sse4_2 sse4a ssse3 svm) bmips: 42162
           clock speeds: min/max: 1400/3500 MHz 1: 3512 MHz 2: 3512 MHz
           3: 3512 MHz 4: 3512 MHz 5: 3512 MHz 6: 3512 MHz
Graphics:  Card: NVIDIA GT218 [GeForce 210] bus-ID: 01:00.0 chip-ID: 10de:0a65
           Display Server: X.org 1.19.1 drivers: nouveau (unloaded: modesetting,fbdev,nv,vesa)
           tty size: 80x24 Advanced Data: N/A for root
Audio:     Card-1 NVIDIA High Definition Audio Controller
           driver: snd_hda_intel bus-ID: 01:00.1 chip-ID: 10de:0be3
           Card-2 Advanced Micro Devices [AMD/ATI] SBx00 Azalia (Intel HDA)
           driver: snd_hda_intel bus-ID: 00:14.2 chip-ID: 1002:4383
           Sound: Advanced Linux Sound Architecture v: k4.13.9
Network:   Card: Realtek RTL8111/8168/8411 PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet Controller
           driver: r8169 v: 2.3LK-NAPI port: d000
           bus-ID: 02:00.0 chip-ID: 10ec:8168
           IF: eth0 state: up speed: 1000 Mbps duplex: full
           mac: 1c:87:2c:5a:bb:e2
Drives:    HDD Total Size: 1120.2GB (0.7% used)
           ID-1: /dev/sda model: KINGSTON_SV300S3 size: 120.0GB
           serial: 50026B7256076A16
           ID-2: /dev/sdb model: WDC_WD10EZEX size: 1000.2GB
           serial: WD-WCC3F6XAKRLY
Partition: ID-1: swap-1 size: 8.60GB used: 0.00GB (0%) fs: swap dev: /dev/sdb5
RAID:      System: supported: raid0
           No RAID devices: /proc/mdstat, md_mod kernel module present
           Unused Devices: none
Sensors:   None detected - is lm-sensors installed and configured?
Info:      Processes: 111 Uptime: 11 min Memory: 235.9/15963.7MB
           Init: SysVinit v: N/A runlevel: 5 Gcc sys: N/A
           Client: Shell (bash 4.3.461 running in sakura) inxi: 2.3.8



Code:
# free
             total       used       free     shared    buffers     cached
Mem:      16346844     871476   15475368     335164      74652     560428
-/+ buffers/cache:     236396   16110448
Swap:      8396796          0    8396796
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BarryK
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PostPosted: Sun 29 Oct 2017, 20:05    Post subject:  

Keef wrote:
Also, the devx pet will not load. Tried via PPM and also a manual download, but it complains that there is not enough space (there is plenty).
Network (wifi), and sound working correctly, although wifi not connecting automatically on bootup.


This is for the frugal install?

If you mouse-over the memory icon in the tray, how much free space does it show?

Ah, good that the nvidia nouveau driver is working for you!

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PostPosted: Sun 29 Oct 2017, 20:11    Post subject:  

James C wrote:
Decided to try the live cd as well.Looking good so I'll explore more later.

Wouldn't mind a 32 bit version as well because I'm still running a lot of old hardware too.

Code:
# inxi -Fxx
Resuming in non X mode: glxinfo not found. For package install advice run: inxi --recommends
System:    Host: puppypc28884 Kernel: 4.13.9 x86_64 (64 bit gcc: 6.3.0)
           Desktop: JWM 2.3.7 dm: N/A Distro: Quirky 0.5 pyro64
Machine:   Device: desktop Mobo: ASUSTeK model: M5A97 LE R2.0 v: Rev 1.xx serial: 150545593600028
           UEFI: American Megatrends v: 2601 date: 03/24/2015
CPU:       Hexa core AMD FX-6300 Six-Core (-MCP-) cache: 12288 KB
           flags: (lm nx sse sse2 sse3 sse4_1 sse4_2 sse4a ssse3 svm) bmips: 42162
           clock speeds: min/max: 1400/3500 MHz 1: 3512 MHz 2: 3512 MHz
           3: 3512 MHz 4: 3512 MHz 5: 3512 MHz 6: 3512 MHz
Graphics:  Card: NVIDIA GT218 [GeForce 210] bus-ID: 01:00.0 chip-ID: 10de:0a65
           Display Server: X.org 1.19.1 drivers: nouveau (unloaded: modesetting,fbdev,nv,vesa)
           tty size: 80x24 Advanced Data: N/A for root
Audio:     Card-1 NVIDIA High Definition Audio Controller
           driver: snd_hda_intel bus-ID: 01:00.1 chip-ID: 10de:0be3
           Card-2 Advanced Micro Devices [AMD/ATI] SBx00 Azalia (Intel HDA)
           driver: snd_hda_intel bus-ID: 00:14.2 chip-ID: 1002:4383
           Sound: Advanced Linux Sound Architecture v: k4.13.9
Network:   Card: Realtek RTL8111/8168/8411 PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet Controller
           driver: r8169 v: 2.3LK-NAPI port: d000
           bus-ID: 02:00.0 chip-ID: 10ec:8168
           IF: eth0 state: up speed: 1000 Mbps duplex: full
           mac: 1c:87:2c:5a:bb:e2
Drives:    HDD Total Size: 1120.2GB (0.7% used)
           ID-1: /dev/sda model: KINGSTON_SV300S3 size: 120.0GB
           serial: 50026B7256076A16
           ID-2: /dev/sdb model: WDC_WD10EZEX size: 1000.2GB
           serial: WD-WCC3F6XAKRLY
Partition: ID-1: swap-1 size: 8.60GB used: 0.00GB (0%) fs: swap dev: /dev/sdb5
RAID:      System: supported: raid0
           No RAID devices: /proc/mdstat, md_mod kernel module present
           Unused Devices: none
Sensors:   None detected - is lm-sensors installed and configured?
Info:      Processes: 111 Uptime: 11 min Memory: 235.9/15963.7MB
           Init: SysVinit v: N/A runlevel: 5 Gcc sys: N/A
           Client: Shell (bash 4.3.461 running in sakura) inxi: 2.3.8



Code:
# free
             total       used       free     shared    buffers     cached
Mem:      16346844     871476   15475368     335164      74652     560428
-/+ buffers/cache:     236396   16110448
Swap:      8396796          0    8396796
#


Ah, you have success with nouveau as well!

Yes, I might do a 32-bit build. Firstly, need to import a few more packages into OpenEmbedded, then can run OE, configured to build 32-bit x86 binaries.

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PostPosted: Mon 30 Oct 2017, 04:32    Post subject: Quirky Pyro64 version 0.5 (alpha), Oct 28, 2017  

I ran the install script from Ubuntu.1710 Mate 64bit, it stopped at one
point wanting f2fs-tools, I installed that with synaptic and restarted
the script.
It installed to a 32gb usb 3.0 flash drive:

Computer
Processor 2x Intel(R) Celeron(R) 2957U @ 1.40GHz
Memory 1903MB (212MB used)
Machine Type Physical machine
Operating System Quirky Pyro64
User Name root (root)
Date/Time Mon Oct 30 04:09:00 2017
Display
Resolution 3840x1080 pixels
OpenGL Renderer Unknown
X11 Vendor The X.Org Foundation
Audio Devices
Audio Adapter HDA-Intel - HDA Intel HDMI
Audio Adapter HDA-Intel - HDA Intel PCH
Input Devices
Apple Inc. Apple Keyboard
Apple Inc. Apple Keyboard
Logitech USB Optical Mouse
Sleep Button
Power Button
Power Button
Video Bus
HDA Intel PCH Mic
HDA Intel PCH Headphone
PC Speaker
HDA Intel HDMI HDMI/DP,pcm 3=
HDA Intel HDMI HDMI/DP,pcm 7=
HDA Intel HDMI HDMI/DP,pcm 8=
HDA Intel HDMI HDMI/DP,pcm 9=
HDA Intel HDMI HDMI/DP,pcm 10=
HP WMI hotkeys
Printers (CUPS)
CUPS-PDF Default
SCSI Disks
ATA SanDisk SDSA6MM-
Kingston DataTraveler 3.0
SAMSUNG HD103SI
SONY DVD RW DRU-820A
Operating System
Version
Kernel Linux 4.13.9 (x86_64)
Version #1 SMP Sun Oct 22 22:28:32 AWST 2017
C Library GNU C Library version 2.25 (stable)
Distribution Quirky Pyro64

I downloaded lxrandr_0.3.1-1_amd64.deb to help with setting up the
monitors.
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PostPosted: Mon 30 Oct 2017, 14:41    Post subject:  

BarryK

This is what I get:

Code:
2.9G personal storage, free space 2.8G


The actual partition has about 73G free. This is with the frugal install (full install wouldn't boot up). The devx pet expands to just over 2gb.
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PostPosted: Mon 30 Oct 2017, 18:07    Post subject: Quirky Pyro64 version 0.5 (alpha), Oct 28, 2017  

Earlier today I installed Quirky Pyro64 to a 32gb SDHC card using the
same method as my 1st post above.
While running the SDHC card install I saw the EasyDD item in the setup section
of the menu and used it to install to a 32gb flash drive:

Computer
Processor 4x Intel(R) Core(TM) i3 CPU 540 @ 3.07GHz
Memory 6042MB (335MB used)
Machine Type Physical machine
Operating System Quirky Pyro64
User Name root (root)
Date/Time Mon Oct 30 17:28:55 2017
Display
Resolution 1920x1080 pixels
OpenGL Renderer Unknown
X11 Vendor The X.Org Foundation
Audio Devices
Audio Adapter HDA-Intel - HDA Intel MID
Audio Adapter USB-Audio - Sound Blaster X-Fi Go! Pro
Input Devices
Creative Technology Ltd Sound Blaster X-Fi Go! Pro
Apple Inc. Apple Keyboard
Apple Inc. Apple Keyboard
Logitech USB Receiver
Logitech USB Receiver
Power Button
Power Button
PC Speaker
HDA Digital PCBeep
HDA Intel MID Front Mic
HDA Intel MID Rear Mic
HDA Intel MID Line
HDA Intel MID Line Out
HDA Intel MID Front Headphone
HDA Intel MID HDMI/DP,pcm 3=
Printers (CUPS)
CUPS-PDF Default
SCSI Disks
HL-DT-ST DVDRAM GH70N
ATA ST500DM002-1BD14
Kingston DataTraveler 3.0
Generic- Compact Flash
Multiple Flash Reader
Operating System
Version
Kernel Linux 4.13.9 (x86_64)
Version #1 SMP Sun Oct 22 22:28:32 AWST 2017
C Library GNU C Library version 2.25 (stable)
Distribution Quirky Pyro64

This new flash drive install (running from it now) booted okay on the
pc it was created on but it wouldn't boot on another pc that I tried to
boot it.

Creating the flash drive install took quite a while,it's a usb 3.0
plugged into a usb 2.0 port, approx 30 minutes.
****************************************************

EDIT: I moved the SDHC card install over to my Acer laptop, the touchscreen is working.
EDIT2: Found out moving the SDHC card doesn't work, network settings are not changeable now.
Going to do a fresh install to the card.
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PostPosted: Mon 30 Oct 2017, 19:33    Post subject:  

The install script worked fine, run from quirky xerus64 and installed to usb stick 32gb after zero out process.

This was: 4install-quirky-to-drive-mbr-esp and pyro64-0.5.usfs.xz
with uefi disabled in bios.

Tried first in debian stretch, but the debian syslinux-efi package put the efi mbr's in their own directory SYSLINUX.EFI. That is where scrpt stopped in debian.

For audio, had to amp up "speaker+LO" in retrovol.
Everything else working well.

This is amd phenom x2 ati platform.

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PostPosted: Mon 30 Oct 2017, 23:26    Post subject: Quirky Pyro64 version 0.5 (alpha), Oct 28, 2017  

I was mistaken about moving the SDHC card, I did a new install using
the install to partition script that suggests the proper grub4dos
menu.lst entry.

I'm using the SDHC card on my soon to be 10 years old Acer desktop:

PC Manufacturer: ACER
Product Name: Aspire M5620

Motherboard Vendor: ACER
Product Name: G33T-AM

BIOS Vendor: American Megatrends Inc.
Version: R01-A4
Release Date: 12/19/2007

Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Quad CPU Q6600 @ 2.40GHz
Max Speed: 2400 MHz
Current Speed of Core 0:2403 MHz, 1:1603 MHz, 2:1870 MHz, 3:1603 MHz
Core Count: 4
Thread Count: 4

Frequency governor : ondemand
Freq. scaling driver : acpi-cpufreq

temp1 (nouveau) : +39.0 C (high = +95.0 C, crit = +105.0 C)
Core 0 (coretemp) : +36.0 C (high = +82.0 C, crit = +100.0 C)
Core 1 (coretemp) : +33.0 C (high = +82.0 C, crit = +100.0 C)
Core 2 (coretemp) : +26.0 C (high = +82.0 C, crit = +100.0 C)
Core 3 (coretemp) : +35.0 C (high = +82.0 C, crit = +100.0 C)
temp1 (it8718) : +15.0 C (high = +70.0 C, crit = +NA.0 C)
temp2 (it8718) : +42.0 C (high = +127.0 C, crit = +NA.0 C)

Memory Allocation:
Total RAM: 7991 MB
Used RAM: 4502 MB
Free RAM: 3489 MB
Buffers: 9 MB
Cached: 3992 MB
Total Swap: 2047 MB
Free Swap: 2047 MB

Actual Used RAM: 501 MB Used - (buffers + cached)
Actual Free RAM: 7490 MB Free + (buffers + cached)

I have the browser and cmus running while these stats were generated.

I like it Smile Thanks.
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PostPosted: Tue 31 Oct 2017, 14:18    Post subject: Quirky Pyro64 version 0.5
Subject description: 4install-quirky-to-drive-mbr
 

Installed to 8GB USB pendrive
4install-quirky-to-drive-mbr running from Easy succeded.
4install-quirky-to-drive-mbr running from Fatdog failed.
Reason:
Code:
SIZEBYTES=`echo "$FDISKINFO" | grep '^Disk /dev' | cut -f 5 -d ' '` #141104
no value because there was no Disk but Festplatte.
Suggest:
Code:
SIZEBYTES=`echo "$FDISKINFO" | grep -m 1 "/dev/${TARGETDRIVE}" | cut -f 5 -d ' '` #141104
to avoid language dependance.

----

edit:
4install-quirky-to-drive-mbr running from Fatdog with above change:
Code:
# ./4*mbr
/usr/bin/which

This script will install Quirky to an entire drive, and make it bootable
with the Syslinux boot manager, for any x86 PC.
The intention is to install to pluggable memory drives such as USB Flash
sticks and SD-cards. The entire drive is erased, so take off any files that
you want to keep.
The script will ask questions at each step, and will offer a choice of
drives to install to, but of course it comes down to you to make an intelligent
choice and not erase your PCs internal hard drive!
This script should work when running any Linux distribution, however, it
works best when running a Puppy Linux or Puppy Linux-derivative, as Puppy has,
in my opinion, many superior utilities. However, this script will check for
existence or otherwise of those utilities and downgrade appropriately, or
abort if a missing utility is essential.

Press ENTER key to continue (CTRL-C to abort):

1 pyro64-0.5.usfs.xz

Type a number from the left column: 1
...ok, have chosen pyro64-0.5.usfs.xz

Testing integrity of compressed file, please wait...

Plug in a USB Flash drive, 4GB size, or greater, right now.
Also, please be sure that it is unmounted.
Note, 4GB is sufficient, however for a satisfactory ongoing experience
using Quirky, it is recommended to use a 8GB or greater drive. If you intend
to keep using this installation on a daily basis, to allow for plenty of
package installations, upgrades, downloads, etc., or installation of the
'devx' PET, it is essential to have at least 8GB.

WARNING: Many Linux distros will auto-mount a drive when it is plugged
         in. You will have to unmount it BEFORE CONTINUING!!!
         (if you are unsure about this, don't worry, the script will
          check again later, after you have chosen the drive)

Have you plugged in the drive? Then press ENTER key:
which: no probedisk in (/usr/local/bin:/usr/bin:/usr/sbin:/bin:/sbin:/opt/qt5/bin)

As you are not using a Puppy-derivative, you do not have the excellent
'probedisk' utility, which reports all drives. So, falling back to giving you
a simple list:

These are all of the drives found in your PC:
sda sdb sdc

Choose the drive to install to...
1 sda
2 sdb
3 sdc

Type a number from left column: 3
...ok, have chosen sdc


Uncompressing pyro64-0.5.usfs.xz to pyro64-0.5.usfs...

Final sanity check: 'sdc' is correct? (ENTER if OK, CTRL-C abort):

Some preliminaries on the sdc...
Size of drive=7680MB

Would you like to zeroize the entire drive before installation?
You should answer 'yes' to this if you choose to make a image-file
of the drive immediately after installation (this script will later offer
to do that) -- an image-file is useful for writing to other drives, or
to give to others. Zeroizing beforehand will make the image-file smaller.
NOTE: zeroizing may take over 30 minutes, depending on size of drive.
NOTE: Do not do this with a USB1 interface or via a USB-hub (too slow).
NOTE: Unless you really need to do this, recommend press ENTER to decline.
ENTER only to decline, (any other char to zeroize drive):

Size of drive has a value now. Wink
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PostPosted: Tue 31 Oct 2017, 17:47    Post subject:  

Quote:
You need only set TCLIBC = "musl" to enable building musl instead of glibc.

IIRC, Barry did an open embedded build with musl libc, but I cannot seem to find those results. Were they just discarded?

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PostPosted: Tue 31 Oct 2017, 20:17    Post subject: mimeinfo.cache needed for mypaint  

I discovered why mypaint 's external applications list doesn't form in Barry's Distros
as explained HERE and see image below..


It's because the file 'mimeinfo.cache' is needed to be placed in
/usr/bin/applications/

among the desktop files.

Mypaint uses that info to form a list. Other linux distros apparently have that file as explained here

I wonder could you run update-desktop-database when a new pet package is installed.

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mimeinfo.zip
Description  Needed in /usr/share/applications/
zip

 Download 
Filename  mimeinfo.zip 
Filesize  2.97 KB 
Downloaded  6 Time(s) 
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 Filesize   16.09 KB
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 Filesize   7.45 KB
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