Yes, I agree, tested latest Firefox ESR now and seems to me the Debian version doesn't require pulseaudio (glad it doesn't, I've read that Ubuntu Firefox version does)dancytron wrote:I suggest you use Firefox ESR from the repository. As a default, it comes the closest to meeting the most people's needs and more importantly, you won't have to keep it up to date, since the people maintaining the repository will do that for you. Palemoon was nice, but I don't think it is worth the trouble.
Well, as far I can remember, I didn't intend opening a separate thread (was just mentioning it as one of the options I wouldn't really like), there came a peaceful agreement at that time to release 2 ISO's.mcewanw wrote:I kind of remember, Fred, that you originally intended opening a separate fork/thread for that since it had so many differences from that early version of DebianDog already being developed. However, the person who had initiated, who took the name DebianDog following various community suggestions, didn't seem particularly excited to have an alternative openbox version developed in a separate thread (at that time). Hard to control I suppose, though later it was obvious one thread was completely insufficient for all the variations being produced - should have been forked completely right from that early start I say with hindsight with perhaps some cooperation between the fork developers rather than a hard to work with joint effort.
I think it was nice concept, choice of: One ISO (JWM) as light it could possibly be, suitable for very old (low-ram) computers and one with some more bells and whistles (openbox_xfce), and underneath both being basically the same. This 2 ISO concept worked well for a long time IMO, however there was some confusion sometimes about which version used (if someone forgot to mention that).
Further (more in general), I think it doesn't have to be a problem on itself that people have different opinions, e.g. "conservative" can work together with "progressive" as long there is respect for each others opinion.
(and if that respect is gone somehow or any other reason for not wanting to work together anymore, at least have the dignity to leave someone do his thing without bothering)
There's so much more I could possibly reply or comment on, but best IMO is to focus on now and the future.
Good to see you showing more of a "real William" (" Aguirre,The Wrath of God ", indeed very humorous backi!), without putting on any peacemaker-gloves or whatever.
Fred