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fredx181


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PostPosted: Sun 09 Jul 2017, 05:52    Post subject:  

dancytron wrote:
I suggest you use Firefox ESR from the repository. As a default, it comes the closest to meeting the most people's needs and more importantly, you won't have to keep it up to date, since the people maintaining the repository will do that for you. Palemoon was nice, but I don't think it is worth the trouble.


Yes, I agree, tested latest Firefox ESR now and seems to me the Debian version doesn't require pulseaudio (glad it doesn't, I've read that Ubuntu Firefox version does)

mcewanw wrote:
I kind of remember, Fred, that you originally intended opening a separate fork/thread for that since it had so many differences from that early version of DebianDog already being developed. However, the person who had initiated, who took the name DebianDog following various community suggestions, didn't seem particularly excited to have an alternative openbox version developed in a separate thread (at that time). Hard to control I suppose, though later it was obvious one thread was completely insufficient for all the variations being produced - should have been forked completely right from that early start I say with hindsight with perhaps some cooperation between the fork developers rather than a hard to work with joint effort.


Well, as far I can remember, I didn't intend opening a separate thread (was just mentioning it as one of the options I wouldn't really like), there came a peaceful agreement at that time to release 2 ISO's.
I think it was nice concept, choice of: One ISO (JWM) as light it could possibly be, suitable for very old (low-ram) computers and one with some more bells and whistles (openbox_xfce), and underneath both being basically the same. This 2 ISO concept worked well for a long time IMO, however there was some confusion sometimes about which version used (if someone forgot to mention that).

Further (more in general), I think it doesn't have to be a problem on itself that people have different opinions, e.g. "conservative" can work together with "progressive" as long there is respect for each others opinion.
(and if that respect is gone somehow or any other reason for not wanting to work together anymore, at least have the dignity to leave someone do his thing without bothering)

There's so much more I could possibly reply or comment on, but best IMO is to focus on now and the future.

Good to see you showing more of a "real William" (" Aguirre,The Wrath of God ", indeed very humorous backi!), without putting on any peacemaker-gloves or whatever.

Fred

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PostPosted: Sun 09 Jul 2017, 06:03    Post subject:  

......ignore....
............test.....test.....test..........
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PostPosted: Sun 09 Jul 2017, 06:23    Post subject: THREAD ON WORDPRESS  

WELCOME FRED!

YOU CAN OPEN NEW THREAD ON
WORDPRESS FREE ABOUT YOUR
PROJECTS, WHERE YOU CAN WORK IN
PEACE. YOU CAN DELETE ANY INTERVENTION
AS YOU WISH.
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IN THIS PUPPY FORUM WE DO NOT HAVE A
PEACE, AS DANYCTRON TOLD.

REGARDS
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PostPosted: Sun 09 Jul 2017, 06:45    Post subject:  

optimistically, maybe it will all settle down peacefully now that we have so many things off all our backs, as long as no-one gets pushy or possessive. Delicacy not pomposity - I mean but with some magnamity.

Let's get/move on then.

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PostPosted: Sun 09 Jul 2017, 07:19    Post subject:  

So ironic wee-willy. Your tag shows NZ location, but you talk Scotland, but persona Neverland.
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PostPosted: Sun 09 Jul 2017, 09:24    Post subject:  

Someone started a thread all DD projects to be moved in off-topic section. My opinion is there.
http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=110998
Ignore is not a good idea if you like to keep some development in this forum active.

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PostPosted: Sun 09 Jul 2017, 09:33    Post subject:  

Hi William,

fredx181 wrote:
Good to see you showing more of a "real William" (" Aguirre,The Wrath of God ", indeed very humorous backi!), without putting on any peacemaker-gloves or whatever.


Gotta take half of that back.
Seeing you without the peacemaker-attitude was indeed sort of "refreshing" but shouldn't have called it "good to see", it wasn't, because I believe the real William is a peaceful man.

Take it easy!

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PostPosted: Mon 10 Jul 2017, 05:23    Post subject:  

Using D-D Stretch as my daily driver.......despite the rumours about Debian Stretch-Stable being not that stable (fact or fiction ?) did not encounter any problem until now .

Has anyone found some......and if ...which ?
Reports are welcome .
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PostPosted: Mon 10 Jul 2017, 14:47    Post subject:  

backi wrote:
Using D-D Stretch as my daily driver.......despite the rumours about Debian Stretch-Stable being not that stable (fact or fiction ?) did not encounter any problem until now .

Has anyone found some......and if ...which ?
Reports are welcome .


The only small issue I had sofar, but only sometimes, is that a window doesn't close, specially splash screen seems to stick sometimes e.g. after using filemnt (mounting/unmounting iso or squashfs) the message should disappear after a few seconds, not a real problem, it disappears directly at the moment I open any other window... I use mostly openbox/xfce, don't know if this happens also when running JWM.
For the rest it works OK for me, it's a little heavier than Jessie though.

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PostPosted: Mon 10 Jul 2017, 17:31    Post subject:  

fredx181 wrote:
backi wrote:
Using D-D Stretch as my daily driver.......despite the rumours about Debian Stretch-Stable being not that stable (fact or fiction ?) did not encounter any problem until now .

Has anyone found some......and if ...which ?
Reports are welcome .


The only small issue I had sofar, but only sometimes, is that a window doesn't close, specially splash screen seems to stick sometimes e.g. after using filemnt (mounting/unmounting iso or squashfs) the message should disappear after a few seconds, not a real problem, it disappears directly at the moment I open any other window... I use mostly openbox/xfce, don't know if this happens also when running JWM.
For the rest it works OK for me, it's a little heavier than Jessie though.

Fred


I just downloaded your modification of the Stretch 64 that I did. Posting from it now.

I see you turned the select on hover back on. How does that not drive you crazy? Smile

Do you see this as being the released version for at least a couple of months or do you see yourself issuing another ISO fairly soon? The reason I ask is that I think I'll probably do a Chrome version for this ISO too but I don't want to do it and then have another ISO come out a couple of weeks later.

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PostPosted: Mon 10 Jul 2017, 17:33    Post subject:  

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PostPosted: Tue 11 Jul 2017, 02:17    Post subject:  

Hi dancytron !
Am a bit confused
Quote:
I see you turned the select on hover back on.

What does it mean.....where to find ?
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PostPosted: Tue 11 Jul 2017, 03:03    Post subject: LZ4 LATEST VERSION IN QUICK REMASTER  

LZ4 LATEST VERSION IN QUICK REMASTER
Regards rufwoof!

CAN YOU,PLEASE, ADD
LZ4 LATEST VERSION IN QUICK REMASTER?

THANKS
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PostPosted: Tue 11 Jul 2017, 03:12    Post subject:  

dancytron wrote:
I just downloaded your modification of the Stretch 64 that I did. Posting from it now.

I see you turned the select on hover back on. How does that not drive you crazy? Smile.


I'm used to that, turn it off again then, but how does that not drive you crazy? Smile
Yes, forgot to mention, thought you might have turned it off accidentally.

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Do you see this as being the released version for at least a couple of months or do you see yourself issuing another ISO fairly soon? The reason I ask is that I think I'll probably do a Chrome version for this ISO too but I don't want to do it and then have another ISO come out a couple of weeks later.


I have no plans for it in the near future, so go ahead!

@backi,
It's about the delay an item gets selected when hovering the mouse in filemanager, (see pic, this is setting for Thunar, PcmanFM has similar setting)

Fred
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PostPosted: Tue 11 Jul 2017, 03:23    Post subject: Re: LZ4 LATEST VERSION IN QUICK REMASTER  

zagreb999 wrote:

CAN YOU,PLEASE, ADD
LZ4 LATEST VERSION IN QUICK REMASTER?


Hi zagreb, you mentioned that earlier, I'd like to but I have no idea how, do you?
"mksquashfs --help" shows just this for lz4 :
Code:
   lz4
     -Xhc
      Compress using LZ4 High Compression


EDIT: For more clarity: Assuming you mean the LZ4 fast 8 (v1.7.3) as you talked about earlier?
https://github.com/lz4/lz4 (see benchmarks)
Maybe one day the squashfs-tools maintainers will implement that, I don't know anything about it.

Fred
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