Just my 2 cents on Min:
I used it during my final year uni project .. Even from a web dev point of view it behaves almost exactly the same as Chrome - it includes the same Dev Tools and seems to be pretty much the same rendering engine (meaning same browser features - HTML5, CSS3, File API, JS ES5, Canvas, etc) ..
Performance is very good.
The UI is not great, but can be gotten used to.
Overall, it is a good, smaller alternative to Chrome (if you can put up with the strange UI).
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Mike Walsh
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Hi, sc0ttman.
P'raps you can fill in some of the 'gaps' for the rest of us!
Did you ever figure out how you 'bookmark' anything? And, er, is there any way at all to step backwards & forwards through pages? Everything seems to work through the 'List' page (kinda like a 'History' page?)
Basic stuff like that, y'know?
Mike.
P'raps you can fill in some of the 'gaps' for the rest of us!
Did you ever figure out how you 'bookmark' anything? And, er, is there any way at all to step backwards & forwards through pages? Everything seems to work through the 'List' page (kinda like a 'History' page?)
Basic stuff like that, y'know?
Mike.
The CTRL key is the modifier, so ctrl + left or right arrow will take you through pages.
ctrl + TAB amazingly enough takes you to the next tab.
ctrl + d saves a bookmark, but I still don't know how to find it afterwards.
Hitting ALT brings up the menu toolbar, so click on help to get to the shortcuts page (or look at Edit > Preferences).
ctrl + TAB amazingly enough takes you to the next tab.
ctrl + d saves a bookmark, but I still don't know how to find it afterwards.
Hitting ALT brings up the menu toolbar, so click on help to get to the shortcuts page (or look at Edit > Preferences).
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Mike Walsh
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Mike Walsh
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Hi again, all.
32-bit SFS package now available. Link as below:-
http://www.mediafire.com/file/3g7zmsxb8 ... 0-i386.sfs
@Keef:-
It appears that whatever you bookmark, appears in the 'Task List' that shows up when you hit the 'hamburger' Menu symbol, at the the far right end of the Tabs bar. I've bookmarked a few of my regular sites, and it seems this is where they go to. So, I'm guessing the list could grow to quite sizeable proportions after a while.....
Still haven't discovered a way to import bookmarks. It's early days yet, though; this may well get added to a later release. We shall see.
Posting this from Min in Slacko 560. Give it a try.
Edit:- Curiouser & curiouser. Seems that what shows in the 'Task List' is whatever tabs you happen to have open at the point when you click on the hamburger. Click on 'New Task' at the bottom, and you can create another list of whatever tabs are open when you click on it. A wee bit awkward initially, but it's got definite possiblities! You can go to whichever 'Task' set of tabs you want simply by clicking on any URL within that Task.
So; it would appear that you can set up your 'bookmarks' in groups of similar sites. Nifty. And, er; I don't think you need to use 'Ctrl + d', either. Whatever is open when you click on 'New Task' simply gets added to as you open further sites. Boy, this is gonna take some getting used to.....
And Min does remember these Task 'groups' of tabs between one session and the next. Not yet sure as I'd trust it for banking, mind you ..!!
Very definitely worth persevering with, though.
Mike.
32-bit SFS package now available. Link as below:-
http://www.mediafire.com/file/3g7zmsxb8 ... 0-i386.sfs
@Keef:-
It appears that whatever you bookmark, appears in the 'Task List' that shows up when you hit the 'hamburger' Menu symbol, at the the far right end of the Tabs bar. I've bookmarked a few of my regular sites, and it seems this is where they go to. So, I'm guessing the list could grow to quite sizeable proportions after a while.....
Still haven't discovered a way to import bookmarks. It's early days yet, though; this may well get added to a later release. We shall see.
Posting this from Min in Slacko 560. Give it a try.
Edit:- Curiouser & curiouser. Seems that what shows in the 'Task List' is whatever tabs you happen to have open at the point when you click on the hamburger. Click on 'New Task' at the bottom, and you can create another list of whatever tabs are open when you click on it. A wee bit awkward initially, but it's got definite possiblities! You can go to whichever 'Task' set of tabs you want simply by clicking on any URL within that Task.
So; it would appear that you can set up your 'bookmarks' in groups of similar sites. Nifty. And, er; I don't think you need to use 'Ctrl + d', either. Whatever is open when you click on 'New Task' simply gets added to as you open further sites. Boy, this is gonna take some getting used to.....
And Min does remember these Task 'groups' of tabs between one session and the next. Not yet sure as I'd trust it for banking, mind you ..!!
Very definitely worth persevering with, though.
Mike.
Hi Mike, thanks for the sfs. Trialling it now on a Slacko 5.6 derivative. So far I have a problem where it won't let me browse youtube as it says "can't connect securely to this site" but I suspect this could be related to the oddball state of openssl in my pup. (just thought I'd mention it in case anyone else is having the same problem).
One of the features I most need in a browser is the ability to "print to file" to create pdfs from webpages and Min seems really good at this in my testing so far.
Looks like being a very useful browser.
One of the features I most need in a browser is the ability to "print to file" to create pdfs from webpages and Min seems really good at this in my testing so far.
Looks like being a very useful browser.
I'm using Min to post this and am having the same problem as you Greengeek with YouTube, but only on some Puplets.
Min works flawlessly on Slackopuppy 6.3.2 which is installed to the harddrive on one of my netbooks. Everything works and the performance is really snappy and it loads YouTube pages and plays the video without any problem whatsoever. It's performance is also good with Unicornpup V6 and Shiba Inu 1.1.3 which I both boot from a flashdrive, apart from it's unwillingness to load YouTube.
I'm very much a novice with Puppy, so if anyone could shed any light on this, it would be appreciated.
Min works flawlessly on Slackopuppy 6.3.2 which is installed to the harddrive on one of my netbooks. Everything works and the performance is really snappy and it loads YouTube pages and plays the video without any problem whatsoever. It's performance is also good with Unicornpup V6 and Shiba Inu 1.1.3 which I both boot from a flashdrive, apart from it's unwillingness to load YouTube.
I'm very much a novice with Puppy, so if anyone could shed any light on this, it would be appreciated.
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quirkian2new
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1.7 seems very similar so I assume rendering fixes.
Not sure if there is another thread on this as google found this one.
Its an oddball...the development site just says its a javascript based browser which is the mozilla approach but does not do other mozilla like things.
Perhaps it is indeed a one off which makes it interesting as an alternative to the mozilla/google two party state.
It has a certain charm and its pdf and media handling it neat.
If there is any interest I will upload my stuff.
mike
Not sure if there is another thread on this as google found this one.
Its an oddball...the development site just says its a javascript based browser which is the mozilla approach but does not do other mozilla like things.
Perhaps it is indeed a one off which makes it interesting as an alternative to the mozilla/google two party state.
It has a certain charm and its pdf and media handling it neat.
well I have it running on Lucid.... yes I made an sfs of library updates but did not need to include glibc (I have updated on other pups in the past...its how you do it that matters to avoid a freeze) ..gtk/glib/libstdc++/xcb ...but that sort of maxes out updates and those libs helped me run other newer software. Can't say I want a pulseaudio/gtk3 thing so I dont. Up to now browser updates have been limited to XP/windows , palemoon came close so Min is a nice option.Does not work in an older pup. I tried it in the most up to date version of Lucid 5287. Did not open. Tried from a terminal and complained about a couple of things. Tried looking for missing dependencies. There were none! Back to the terminal and tried to use the output to look for what was missing in ppm.
If there is any interest I will upload my stuff.
mike
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Mike Walsh
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Hiya, Mike.
I looked at Min last year; it's certainly different, all right. 'Quirky' is, I think, the word for it.....
T'other Mike.
Mm..! Yes, please. I didn't think it was possible to get that running in Lucid with that ancient glibc. I have actually used Battleshooter's 'glibc-220' upgrade he put together for Carolina/Racy in Lucid (amongst many others), in the hopes of being able to run a newer version of Chrome. Didn't work for that, but, like you say, it certainly allows me to run a fair bit of other, newer stuff.mikeb wrote:If there is any interest I will upload my stuff.
I looked at Min last year; it's certainly different, all right. 'Quirky' is, I think, the word for it.....
T'other Mike.
Just stumbled on this thread, hadn't seen it before. Si I just downloaded and installed on stretch pup rc3. Interresting browser, super quick and seems to render pages well. There doesn't appear to be any navigation though, so can't return to previous page, so can't get back to unread posts on forum. This will probalby stop it from being used more widely. I'll keep using it for now.
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Mike Walsh
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Morning, all.
2 new SFS packages of the latest release (1.7.1) for you.
Download 32- or 64-bit from here:-
http://www.mediafire.com/folder/rkk35of ... in_browser
....aaaand enjoy.
Mike.
2 new SFS packages of the latest release (1.7.1) for you.
Download 32- or 64-bit from here:-
http://www.mediafire.com/folder/rkk35of ... in_browser
....aaaand enjoy.
Mike.
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Mike Walsh
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Gawd, I'd forgotten just how 'minimalist' this thing is..!
At least I've figured out how to zoom in/out (Ctrl + '+' or '-'.....logical, I guess), although it appears you have to apply this on a page by page basis.....even within the same tab (*huh?!?*)
Certainly is fast, though. If only I could suss the bookmarks system out, I'd be happy with it....
One thing I'm pretty certain about, though.....and that is that you'll need to build up your bookmarks from scratch, 'cos there is absolutely no mechanism for importing an HTML file (even though it's Chromium-based. Rather like Dillo, in that respect; everything has to entered anew, every time you want it.
(*Heigh-ho...*)
Mike.
At least I've figured out how to zoom in/out (Ctrl + '+' or '-'.....logical, I guess), although it appears you have to apply this on a page by page basis.....even within the same tab (*huh?!?*)
Certainly is fast, though. If only I could suss the bookmarks system out, I'd be happy with it....
One thing I'm pretty certain about, though.....and that is that you'll need to build up your bookmarks from scratch, 'cos there is absolutely no mechanism for importing an HTML file (even though it's Chromium-based. Rather like Dillo, in that respect; everything has to entered anew, every time you want it.
(*Heigh-ho...*)
Mike.
Hi Mike, I just downloaded and fired up your 32bit SFS in UpupBionic. Worked OTB, using it now.Mike Walsh wrote:Gawd, I'd forgotten just how 'minimalist' this thing is..!
At least I've figured out how to zoom in/out (Ctrl + '+' or '-'.....logical, I guess), although it appears you have to apply this on a page by page basis.....even within the same tab (*huh?!?*)
Certainly is fast, though. If only I could suss the bookmarks system out, I'd be happy with it....
One thing I'm pretty certain about, though.....and that is that you'll need to build up your bookmarks from scratch, 'cos there is absolutely no mechanism for importing an HTML file (even though it's Chromium-based. Rather like Dillo, in that respect; everything has to entered anew, every time you want it.
(*Heigh-ho...*)
Mike.
Just fumbling about at present. Managed to set a home page by modifying the exec line in /usr/share/applications/min.desktop to:
Code: Select all
Exec=/usr/bin/min file:///mnt/home/0_common/home_page.htmlI notice that clicking the "View Tasks" button in the upper right corner shows a clickable list of all pages visited so far, so I suppose that acts as sort of a Bookmarks menu.
Might be worth starting a new "Tips and Tricks" thread.
Thanks for this, J
https://www.dropbox.com/s/qstbgo9rm6fn4 ... 4.sfs?dl=1
Ok but this does not have the libstdc++ update to 1.0.17 (i used debian)
https://www.dropbox.com/s/rauh3t3cfqjk1 ... ar.gz?dl=1
which I already did to my lucid build...I need to merge this to make a complete vanilla lucid update. Note glibc is left untouched...min does not need it.
Might make sense to make a pet of it.
Again other software may benefit.
Also note standard puppies will not load this sfs above the main system so will fail to overlay older libs.
I basically compiled the contents from source....also added gconf as i removed it but will do no harm.
Also note.... it uses some mozilla libraries (seamonkey 2.40 worked for me for example)...if you still get errors a newer browser needed...again merging the libs might make sense for this package as they are not large...a work in progress.
mike
Ok but this does not have the libstdc++ update to 1.0.17 (i used debian)
https://www.dropbox.com/s/rauh3t3cfqjk1 ... ar.gz?dl=1
which I already did to my lucid build...I need to merge this to make a complete vanilla lucid update. Note glibc is left untouched...min does not need it.
Might make sense to make a pet of it.
Again other software may benefit.
Also note standard puppies will not load this sfs above the main system so will fail to overlay older libs.
I basically compiled the contents from source....also added gconf as i removed it but will do no harm.
Also note.... it uses some mozilla libraries (seamonkey 2.40 worked for me for example)...if you still get errors a newer browser needed...again merging the libs might make sense for this package as they are not large...a work in progress.
mike
Min Bookmarks -- sort of
Hi MIke &All,
Running the Min AppImage under Xenialpup64.
Well, AFAICT, after some googling Min doesn't have a mechanism for importing or exporting bookmarks. But, and unless I've gotten it all wrong:
That 5-pointed star on the right of the Taskbar highlights the current url. With the current url highlighted Clicking File on the Taskbar offers the option to "Save Page As". Selecting that opens a file-browser enabling you to choose where. I remember something about "for 30 days" after which who knows what will happen. But in the meantime, the View option on the Menu has a choice called "Reading List". Maybe that's how you accessed the things you've saved.
While surfing, a history of where you've been is kept and can be reached by clicking the 3-Horizontal-Lines Icon at the Top Far Right which opens a scrollable list.
I haven't searched further. Maybe there's an addon or someone can build one. As others have mentioned Min is fast. It also have the advantage of working like those browsers I'm familiar with under Android phones and tablets; so if you're coming from those contraptions you've got no learning curve. Unfortunately, built into the design of applications for those contraption is that in about a year you'll fill up your limited storage space and and have to buy a new phone/tablet or die.
Now 76, I have this suspicion that "If the God Lord is willing and the Creek don't rise" my EOL exceeds that and I prefer Toys which share similar prospects. I have no reason to believe that 30 days is a meaningful limit.
Of course, new computers coming with Terabytes of storage space, storing webpages as opposed to merely a way to access them doesn't pose a problem. But "old-fashioned" Browsers always had the ability to save webpages/print-as-pdf if the user wanted. So it seems to me that although the creators of Min had a good idea, they thereafter suffered from tunnel-vision.
Until Min overcomes that flaw, it will remain just a curiosity I'll visit from time to time to see if it has.
mikesLr
P.S. Jury-rigged Bookmarks: Cut&Paste url into and from textfile/database/html-file/whatever. Still PITA.
Running the Min AppImage under Xenialpup64.
Well, AFAICT, after some googling Min doesn't have a mechanism for importing or exporting bookmarks. But, and unless I've gotten it all wrong:
That 5-pointed star on the right of the Taskbar highlights the current url. With the current url highlighted Clicking File on the Taskbar offers the option to "Save Page As". Selecting that opens a file-browser enabling you to choose where. I remember something about "for 30 days" after which who knows what will happen. But in the meantime, the View option on the Menu has a choice called "Reading List". Maybe that's how you accessed the things you've saved.
While surfing, a history of where you've been is kept and can be reached by clicking the 3-Horizontal-Lines Icon at the Top Far Right which opens a scrollable list.
I haven't searched further. Maybe there's an addon or someone can build one. As others have mentioned Min is fast. It also have the advantage of working like those browsers I'm familiar with under Android phones and tablets; so if you're coming from those contraptions you've got no learning curve. Unfortunately, built into the design of applications for those contraption is that in about a year you'll fill up your limited storage space and and have to buy a new phone/tablet or die.
Now 76, I have this suspicion that "If the God Lord is willing and the Creek don't rise" my EOL exceeds that and I prefer Toys which share similar prospects. I have no reason to believe that 30 days is a meaningful limit.
Of course, new computers coming with Terabytes of storage space, storing webpages as opposed to merely a way to access them doesn't pose a problem. But "old-fashioned" Browsers always had the ability to save webpages/print-as-pdf if the user wanted. So it seems to me that although the creators of Min had a good idea, they thereafter suffered from tunnel-vision.
Until Min overcomes that flaw, it will remain just a curiosity I'll visit from time to time to see if it has.
mikesLr
P.S. Jury-rigged Bookmarks: Cut&Paste url into and from textfile/database/html-file/whatever. Still PITA.
I have to say I was very confused in the Tour when it told me to go to Edit > Preferences on the Taskbar.
What Taskbar? I tried the keyboard shortcuts I know, alt+f etc. and nothing worked. Finally I went to the white band across the top and clicked under "Min", and voila, the File menu opened. Sweeping to the right gave me the other menus. Just have to guess which one you're on.
What Taskbar? I tried the keyboard shortcuts I know, alt+f etc. and nothing worked. Finally I went to the white band across the top and clicked under "Min", and voila, the File menu opened. Sweeping to the right gave me the other menus. Just have to guess which one you're on.- Attachments
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Thanks jrb, this was driving me crazy, had the same problem. I originally d/l'd from min site. I'd clicked and right clicked everywhere but that spot, couldn't find anything.jrb wrote:I have to say I was very confused in the Tour when it told me to go to Edit > Preferences on the Taskbar.
I uninstalled and reinstalled mike's 32-bit sfs to check if it was any different, but still got the same results. Now I can at least look at changing the preferences to check it out better.
Thanks Mike for creating the sfs's.
re:Bookmarks
So far all I've found is this: If you bookmark a page, ctrl+d, then you can click on any open tab, type in part of the bookmarked pages name and it will bring it up. This is the Search procedure and it apparently searchs bookmarks first before going online. Seems workable, different but workable.
So far all I've found is this: If you bookmark a page, ctrl+d, then you can click on any open tab, type in part of the bookmarked pages name and it will bring it up. This is the Search procedure and it apparently searchs bookmarks first before going online. Seems workable, different but workable.