(Far faster) Firefox 55 due in August

[labbe5]

http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2017/07/fire ... untu%21%29

Have a look at the graphs that compare previous versions of the popular browser with Firefox 55 (due in August) in terms of memory usage and handling large number of tabs.

Progress has been possible thanks to Quantum Flow, Mozilla engineering project to fine-tune and tweak the browser’s overall performance., multi-process mode http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2017/06/fire ... -in-ubuntu and Photon UI improvements http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2017/05/snea ... oton-linux

“more effort is being put into making Firefox fast than I’ve seen since… well, since I’ve been working on Firefox. And I’ve been at Mozilla for more than a decade.

[spiritwild]

I was using Firefox for years. Lately, it began to become much slower than the chromium based browsers. Even "light" was slow. I started using Iron and slimjet and the page load times were 3 to 4 times faster. Not to mention that pulse audio issue that had to be worked through.

It may be my system, maybe not. When they update, I'll check it out and compare.

After I posted, I went to the link. If they can pull off those kind of gains and not mess up everything else, I'll be more than impressed.

[Moat]

If they can pull off those kind of gains and not mess up everything else, I'll be more than impressed.

Problem is, Firefox will soon be dropping the long-standing API on which the entire, huge and wonderful addon ecosystem has been built, rendering most (all?) of them incompatible/unusable - which entirely eliminates the one true advantage Firefox has always held over other browsers; extensibility/ability to customize. It's destined to become just another, immature Chrome "wannabe". Extremely narrow-sighted on Mozilla's part, and very well spelling it's death knell.

http://www.zdnet.com/article/mozilla-ch ... s-unhappy/

https://blog.mozilla.org/addons/2016/11 ... nt-page-1/

Not sure what I'm going to do at that point... only hoping Palemoon continues in development of it's older, saner Firefox architecture - including support of the huge mature array of those old mainstay addons. Maybe the FF fallout will lead a mass migration to Palemoon, and therefore potentially more support for keeping Palemoon up-to-date and rolling along...

Bob

[spiritwild]

I just wish the chromium browsers had the update features that Firefox has.
I don't mind the manual updates but I'd love them all to have the simplicity that palemoon has....... Click, update, done.

Then again, I'd love to buy a new car with the quality and simplicity of my 87 bronco II

[mikeslr]

Then again, I'd love to buy a new car with the quality and simplicity of my 87 bronco II

Which reminded me about something which occasionally crosses my mind. So, I've been forced to upgrade to a car with power windows. Following the motto, "Be Prepared" I used to know what to do in this scenario, hoping I'd never have to put it to the test. Your car has been forced into a river and is sinking. The work-around used to be, crank down the window and get out. But now you have power shatter-proof windows which depend on electricity to be lowered, and the water from the river has shorted out the electricty. How the fxxk do you get out of the car?

I'll try not to dwell on that tonight while trying to fall asleep. Have a good night troops.

mikesLr

[dancytron]

Then again, I'd love to buy a new car with the quality and simplicity of my 87 bronco II

Which reminded me about something which occasionally crosses my mind. So, I've been forced to upgrade to a car with power windows. Following the motto, "Be Prepared" I used to know what to do in this scenario, hoping I'd never have to put it to the test. Your car has been forced into a river and is sinking. The work-around used to be, crank down the window and get out. But now you have power shatter-proof windows which depend on electricity to be lowered, and the water from the river has shorted out the electricty. How the fxxk do you get out of the car?

I'll try not to dwell on that tonight while trying to fall asleep. Have a good night troops.

mikesLr

Buy a car window breaking tool. Like this one. . .

https://www.amazon.com/Lifehammer-LH-RE ... B000BN3A4Y

They usually have a seatbelt cutter too. They have keychain ones, ones made to clip on your sun visor, ones with builtin flashlights, and ones shaped like pens to carry in your front pocket. Best $10 or so you can spend on your car.

edit: the official name is "window punch". Google that and you'll see many shapes and sizes. They all work, glass isn't very tough against a pointy piece of hardened steel.

[mikeslr]

Thanks dancytron, I'll sleep better tonight.

mikesLr

[spiritwild]

Now I'm curious if my bronco would sink or bob along like a half full coke bottle.?

Hmmmm

[Moose On The Loose]

Now I'm curious if my bronco would sink or bob along like a half full coke bottle.?

Hmmmm

If you drive forward into water:

The engine will drop below the water fast.
Water will rush in and the bronco will "go down by the bow" just like the Titanic.
Lightfoot won't write "The sinking of the Bronco"
Nobody will turn it into a movie.

[Moat]

Lightfoot won't write "The sinking of the Bronco"

"That good truck and true, was a bone to be chewed..."

Bob

[belham2]

Lightfoot won't write "The sinking of the Bronco"

"That good truck and true, was a bone to be chewed..."

Bob

"Kick it around, take it to town
Try to defy what you feel inside
You better be strong
Your Bronco belongs to us...."

[Moat]

Ah, Gordon... how dare we so desecrate such a masterful songwriter?!?



My, my - how we wandered off-topic, here...

Bob

[musher0]

"Superior, they said,
Never gives up her dead
When the gales of November
come early."

That ship was the Edmund Fitzgerald, a laker, not the Titanic.
And the title of the song is "The Wreck of the Edmund Fitzgerald".
(You guys must have leaking RAM! )

Truly tragic episode, though.

~~~~~~~~~~~
So the "gales of November" will hit FF 55, you think?

[8Geee]

Firefox is already dead, they've long since fired the dev.s. The rant posts subside 3 days later, with a straggler or two in Dec. '16. The illness that leads to their death started with failure to back-port security risks... lets make a new version. Just like a drug-addict behaves, until it all spirals out of control.

8Geee

[labbe5]

Legacy add-ons aren’t going to work in Firefox 57, which is due later this year.

Using Firefox 55, you may have discovered Legacy next to each of your addons. Unfortunately, they are to be deprecated and will not work in Firefox 57.
The good news is : if they do that, it is for enhancing security, and addon developers should adapt to the new Firefox.

Until now you’ve needed to either disable the “Ubufox

[Moose On The Loose]

"Superior, they said,
Never gives up her dead
When the gales of November
come early."

That ship was the Edmund Fitzgerald, a laker, not the Titanic.
And the title of the song is "The Wreck of the Edmund Fitzgerald".

I had taken the "she may have dove deep and took water" line as being like the bronco would sink. If the hatches are not fully secured on a ore carrier, the bow going under water can lead to a quite sudden sinking. Water goes into the hold via the forward hatch and the bow suddenly gets a lot heavier.

It appears that this is not what happened. Long after the song was written the wreck was found. It appears that the waves were so tall that the bottom of the ship hit a big tall rock.

I still maintain that nobody is going to make a movie or a song about the sinking of the bronco.

[perdido]

It appears that this is not what happened. Long after the song was written the wreck was found. It appears that the waves were so tall that the bottom of the ship hit a big tall rock.

I still maintain that nobody is going to make a movie or a song about the sinking of the bronco.

Hmm, the going story used to be that seperate big waves hit both the bow and stern at nearly the same time,
the middle of the ore-laden ship collapsing in the middle due to no support and it broke in half.

Anyways, there is a tribute video using Gordon Lightfoots song on youtube somewhere. At least used to be...
Found it https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hgI8bta-7aw

Firefox big heavy and cumbersome, like the Edmond Fitzgerald.

[prehistoric]

Just to keep this slightly on-topic, I am posting from Firefox 55.0.2 on Fatdog 710.

I am less convinced that the Edmond Fitzgerald hit a rock due to wave action than others. Even huge waves don't often make that much vertical difference in ships long enough to span several waves. The EF was about 800 feet long.

I favor the theory of structural failure after flooding. You can check the substantial difference between the depth loaded and in ballast on photographs. Waves of 35 feet, as reported at the time, would reach the deck when EF was loaded. The stern is detached on the bottom, suggesting flooding near the stern just prior to sinking. It would have been difficult for the bridge crew to see this in bad weather.

The EF was a bulk ore carrier with a heavy load, and this class of shipping has an awful record in waters so deep you never have to worry about hitting rocks while afloat. Here's a case that lingers with anyone who has studied it. I have seen a long video about the loss during typhoon Orchid, and the search for an explanation, but can only find short clips at the moment.

They actually found that wreck under about 3 km. of water. (There is some bad information on the web. I'm still trying to figure out how anyone can describe a ship that sank between Canada and Japan as sinking in the South China Sea. Another proof there is no such thing as unutterable nonsense.)

Detailed analysis showed that the forward compartments did not collapse when it sank, showing they were already filled with water. Other evidence showed the forward ventilators were torn off before the ship sank. The crew could not see what was happening because this was nearly 1,000 ft/300 m. from the bridge during a serious typhoon. Flooding that compartment was enough to cause the ship to dive under a wave and never come up.

A very similar bulk carrier was lost in the south Atlantic last year.

I don't know about the seaworthiness of Broncos, but I had a VW beetle that floated on a flooded street -- while I was driving it.

[charlie6]

Hi,
Here running a fresh install of FF 55.0.3 on Tahrpup-6.0.6 32 bits (just installed and go).

as an example, doing in terminal

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root# firefox http://www.gcad3d.org
root#

as also

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root# firefox www.gcad3d.org
root#

only open the FF start page.
There is no error message nor comment.

It worked though on earlier FF versions.
I browsed the web as also this forum without finding relevant to this.

I also tried

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root# firefox -new-tab http://www.gcad3d.org
root#

which also opens a FF star page.

Thanks for any advice.
Charlie

[Sailor Enceladus]

Tried the FF55 on Mozilla site in Slacko 6.9.9.9 and installed gtk3 and pulseaudio. Contrary to the title of this thread, it was not "far faster" at all, I think it was actually slower than the included FF52 ESR overall. Can't say I'm surprised. Maybe they meant "faster on the latest hardware", I'm still running a single-core Pentium M CPU, or perhaps it was all just marketing fluff.