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Pelo

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PostPosted: Tue 15 Aug 2017, 06:40    Post subject: Puppy would have only developers as users. Build your OS...  

When i read the forum nowadays, Puppy would have only developers as users. Build your OS...
You could understand that people will trust old puppies, not to spend time on searching repairs to bugs..
You can develop Ferraris, or a water powered car, or a rocket aircraft, for your pleasure..
What we need is that you ask people what they want, and then that you brainstorm to make it.. Twisted Evil
See other topics in suggestions, and try to realize what is asked, sure it's not funny..
Documentations, help desk, translations;; packages, compiling for users..
You build so many boats, but none of you would try it on the water.
Without release, you are in brainstorming.. Do you think your brainstorming is worth so many pages ?
so many Puppies, abandoned as fast as build. Production line produces , but customers are gone.

If a Puppy is not for public release, keep it at home, do your tests at home ! don't shot the testers, anymore !

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torm


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PostPosted: Wed 16 Aug 2017, 09:54    Post subject:  

@Pelo
this is not RedHat or SUSE. Or pure Debian... there are no customers.
Or OpenSuse. Or testers.
Don't drain out the fun from devs, or You'll have nothing to play with in a littlewhile.
dl AssaultCube if You like to shoot or get shot at Very Happy

labbe5 has pretty good link here, where it comes to this topic:
http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=111209
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Robert123

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PostPosted: Thu 17 Aug 2017, 03:13    Post subject: Re: Puppy would have only developers as users. Build your OS...  

Pelo wrote:
When i read the forum nowadays, Puppy would have only developers as users. Build your OS...
You could understand that people will trust old puppies, not to spend time on searching repairs to bugs..
You can develop Ferraris, or a water powered car, or a rocket aircraft, for your pleasure..
What we need is that you ask people what they want, and then that you brainstorm to make it.. Twisted Evil
See other topics in suggestions, and try to realize what is asked, sure it's not funny..
Documentations, help desk, translations;; packages, compiling for users..
You build so many boats, but none of you would try it on the water.
Without release, you are in brainstorming.. Do you think your brainstorming is worth so many pages ?
so many Puppies, abandoned as fast as build. Production line produces , but customers are gone.

If a Puppy is not for public release, keep it at home, do your tests at home ! don't shot the testers, anymore !


If people are having fun developing their own and some sharing those results then so be it. Can't say I'm worried about the lack of a new official Pup - Distrowatch or the demands of a certain user.

Developers obviously real world other demands beyond Puppy.

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Sailor Enceladus

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PostPosted: Thu 17 Aug 2017, 09:35    Post subject:  

Very interesting thread. The woof-CE Master branch was last updated Dec 29, 2016 (commit 3790 vs. 5500) and everything since has been added to "Testing" or "Rationlise". Perhaps all the changes to master that are deemed "safe" or "bugfixes" can be backported to that branch (or master-new)? mavrothal? Twisted Evil Very Happy https://github.com/puppylinux-woof-CE/woof-CE/tree/master

edit: Hmm I think "master" might still be new enough that using "testing" for changes is ok until 01micko releases Slacko700.
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PostPosted: Sat 16 Sep 2017, 07:23    Post subject:  

Sailor Enceladus wrote:
Very interesting thread. The woof-CE Master branch was last updated Dec 29, 2016 (commit 3790 vs. 5500) and everything since has been added to "Testing" or "Rationlise". Perhaps all the changes to master that are deemed "safe" or "bugfixes" can be backported to that branch (or master-new)? mavrothal? Twisted Evil Very Happy https://github.com/puppylinux-woof-CE/woof-CE/tree/master

edit: Hmm I think "master" might still be new enough that using "testing" for changes is ok until 01micko releases Slacko700.

I think having a master branch which contains only tagged (versioned) releases of woof, that were used to build official pups is the way to go..

People would see nice versioned releases in the Releases page, and would know that each and every commit in the master branch could be used to build an official pup .. just checkout older commits to build the older official pups...

The lack of branch structure in woof-ce is a real pain...

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Pelo

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PostPosted: Sat 16 Sep 2017, 20:47    Post subject: yesterday, a newbie asking a question about firefox 50  

yesterday, a newbie asking a question about firefox 50 and libavcodec outdated. The answer 'compile a new version'....
Sure they are still people from Windows boarding on the Planet Linux, Hazardous try because of Puppy easy to use advertisement, then at the entrance is a Linuxian expert unable to speak to newbies. And these newbies are not idiots, a bulgarian speaking English, writing in English is able to understand Linux. The problem is would the Linux speaking guy be able to speak to a bulgarian, even in English but not in Linux ?
And if most of you don't want newbies, don't like newbies, just want to show how expert they are in Linuxing ? What the rest of the world don't care at all.
newbie question, please help him
if a screwdriver is the everyday tool of a car builder, the car driver should not need it. At least not for daily use. On the forum screwdrivers are the main subject. Really boring.
But there is a place for everybody, with his own hobbies. in our forum. Even for the screwdrivers addicts.

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PostPosted: Sun 17 Sep 2017, 02:31    Post subject: Congratulations to BK who used what should be used
Subject description: releases to fulffil
 

Congratulations to BK who used what should be used to inform new comers of last released Puppyes. Quirky is even not a Puppy, but Puppy builders, so numerous, should do as him
Look 'Puplets', they are from the prehistory of Pupppy. I am sure that they are Puplets born recently, and that some devs are pregnant again...
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PostPosted: Sun 17 Sep 2017, 04:11    Post subject: Pupflux 1.6.0 re-installed for a week beside  

Pupflux 1.6.0 re-installed for a week beside experimental Tahpup 64. Not to test it, but to use it.
Who could assist, some bugs as keyboard layout still on development..

Josejp2424 has just released his Stretch, but this one is 64bits, taking the leadership within Puppy's world. Done outside US, somewhere in South America, for jibaros.
i was curious, not about 64 bits, but about Gslapt old packages downloader Take a glance at it !

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