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Create Debian 9 (Stretch) minimal ISO similar to DebianDog
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fredx181


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PostPosted: Wed 26 Sep 2018, 14:03    Post subject:  

Hi dcung,

I see in your build_setup.conf , that both firefox-esr and firefox-mozilla-build are selected for install, it should be one or the other, I think, otherwise conflict will occur.
I'm thinking that it would be better to remove the extra repository "ubuntuzilla" (which provides firefox-mozilla-build) because it's creating the problems you experienced, but not sure yet.

About apulse:
I didn't notice earlier, now I found that newest firefox-esr requires pulseaudio (or apulse) for sound to work on e.g. YouTube (the older 52 version of firefox-esr didn't)

Change the line in Firefox-apulse (in usr/share/applications) from
Exec=apulse /opt/firefox/firefox
to just:
Exec=apulse firefox
And it should execute firefox in PATH (probably /usr/bin/firefox) with apulse, so sound should work then if you run Firefox-apulse from Menu.

About Thunar:
In your build config you have "xfce4-places-plugin", it depends on Thunar, so that's probably the reason you couldn't get rid of Thunar.
Btw, are you sure you want this combination of PcmanFM and the xfce4 components without Thunar ?
I tested that kind of setup without Thunar and found that when clicking an icon on the Desktop it gave an error, installing Thunar again solved that.
Maybe better a setup with PcmanFM providing the Desktop ?

Tip:
At a certain point of running mklive-stretch you are asked to run Xterm just before exiting the chroot.
If you choose yes, and then when it appears, type synaptic and you can check everything, remove, install etc...

Fred

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PostPosted: Wed 26 Sep 2018, 18:00    Post subject:  

fredx181 wrote:
I see in your build_setup.conf , that both firefox-esr and firefox-mozilla-build are selected for install, it should be one or the other, I think, otherwise conflict will occur.
I'm thinking that it would be better to remove the extra repository "ubuntuzilla" (which provides firefox-mozilla-build) because it's creating the problems you experienced, but not sure yet.

That's what I meant.
I deleted firefox-esr from GUI, but when finished, it somehow appears.
The build_setup.conf was not created by me, it was generated. I just posted to show, something put firefox-esr back even after 'deleting' in GUI.

Never mind it, Fred... Minor issue.

Quote:
Tip:
At a certain point of running mklive-stretch you are asked to run Xterm just before exiting the chroot.
If you choose yes, and then when it appears, type synaptic and you can check everything, remove, install etc...

Thanks, I'll try this....
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PostPosted: Thu 27 Sep 2018, 04:25    Post subject:  

dcung wrote:
I deleted firefox-esr from GUI, but when finished, it somehow appears.
The build_setup.conf was not created by me, it was generated. I just posted to show, something put firefox-esr back even after 'deleting' in GUI.

Yes, I understood that the build_setup.conf is the generated one, and it should indeed reflect what you edited in the package install sections, but obviously it didn't for you.
I tried to reproduce. but cannot, maybe I'm doing something different than you.
What is it you did exactly ?
I did ./mklive-stretch -gui , chose DDog, and edited the install lists in similar way as you did.

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PostPosted: Thu 27 Sep 2018, 18:52    Post subject:  

Hi Fred,

fredx181 wrote:
About Thunar:
In your build config you have "xfce4-places-plugin", it depends on Thunar, so that's probably the reason you couldn't get rid of Thunar.
I didn't know that was also a Thunar dependency.


fredx181 wrote:
I tried to reproduce. but cannot, maybe I'm doing something different than you.
I think I know what my mistake was.
I kept doing copy/paste from a 'contaminated' source.

I just made another fresh iso, which include nvidia, apulse firefox-mozilla-build among other things. And firefox-esr didn't appear.

My apology for sending you to a 'wild goose' chase. Embarassed

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PostPosted: Sun 30 Sep 2018, 04:09    Post subject:  

Added to Stretch custom repo:
- Xlunch graphical app launcher, see info here:
http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=1003532#1003532
Install with synaptic or apt-get:
Code:
apt-get update
apt-get install xlunch


- And redshift-gui-lite, see info here:
http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=1005692#1005692

Only difference is that it's packaged as deb instead of portable.
(and it will replace "redshift-gui" (if installed) )
Install with synaptic or apt-get:
Code:
apt-get update
apt-get install redshift-gui-lite


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PostPosted: Sun 30 Sep 2018, 18:06    Post subject:  

fredx181 wrote:
newest firefox-esr requires pulseaudio (or apulse) for sound
Change the line in Firefox-apulse... and install Pulse...


Or, if like me, you don't want to install Pulse, in order to run the OS as slim as possible, then just install a browser that doesn't require Pulse.

This 32-bit Opera deb installs and runs on Devuan Dog without issue.
https://get.geo.opera.com/pub/opera/desktop/45.0.2552.898/linux/

It's a Chrome fork, so it supports Chrome extensions with this:
https://addons.opera.com/en/extensions/details/install-chrome-extensions/

Then, remove the Pulse volume control (if it's in your panel), and use this Alsa volume control instead:
http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=114237

Then you can of course uninstall Firefox.

cheers!

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PostPosted: Mon 01 Oct 2018, 12:41    Post subject:  

Thanks johnywhy,

Just to add, for info: apulse (= alsa pulse) is not pulseaudio, it's a workaround for to avoid the need to install pulseaudio for applications that require it, e.g. latest Firefox Quantum, to make sound work using Alsa, run:
Code:
apulse firefox

(needs small 'apulse' package installed)

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PostPosted: Mon 01 Oct 2018, 17:15    Post subject: new thunar-custom action  

who knows to create
new thunar-custom action
with shell script that works in terminal,
to convert pdf to djvu?
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pdf2djvu -o surveying.djvu dokument2.pdf --pages=1-6
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"dokument2.pdf" is the name of file to be converted
"1-6" is the number of pages
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"dokument2.pdf" can be any pdf file...
"1-6" can be all pages...
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PostPosted: Tue 02 Oct 2018, 12:18    Post subject:  

Hi zagreb,

If you add attached script pdf-to-djvu in PATH (e,g, in /usr/local/bin/) (remove fake .gz and make executable first) it should work with the Thunar custom action like you can see at screenshots below.
This is using xterm, but can be also another terminal, of course, like xfce4-terminal.

Not sure what you need exactly, but this supports multiple .pdf files to convert and has a prompt for to set the number of pages.
EDIT: Forgot to mention, the converted file has the same name as the pdf and will be in the same directory, with extension .djvu

Fred
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PostPosted: Tue 02 Oct 2018, 14:35    Post subject:  

fredx181 wrote:
apulse (= alsa pulse) is not pulseaudio, it's a workaround for to avoid the need to install pulseaudio for applications that require it, e.g. latest Firefox Quantum, to make sound work using Alsa


thx for clarification, Fred. For info, what other apps require this?

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PostPosted: Tue 02 Oct 2018, 14:57    Post subject:  

johnywhy wrote:
fredx181 wrote:
apulse (= alsa pulse) is not pulseaudio, it's a workaround for to avoid the need to install pulseaudio for applications that require it, e.g. latest Firefox Quantum, to make sound work using Alsa


thx for clarification, Fred. For info, what other apps require this?


You probably mean: apps that absolutely require pulseaudio, so cannot work with alsa (and can possibly use apulse to workaround that).
Not sure. Could well be that there are such applications that I don't know about yet.

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PostPosted: Tue 02 Oct 2018, 15:41    Post subject:  

compliments fred!

it works... great... fantastic!

thanks!
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PostPosted: Wed 03 Oct 2018, 06:46    Post subject: progress bar for pdf-to-djvu  

hi fred
pdf-to-djvu works
perfect

can be added
progress bar for pdf-to-djvu
to monitor converssion of
large books...?

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PostPosted: Thu 04 Oct 2018, 04:55    Post subject: Re: progress bar for pdf-to-djvu  

zagreb999 wrote:
hi fred
pdf-to-djvu works
perfect

can be added
progress bar for pdf-to-djvu
to monitor converssion of
large books...?

thanks!


I think that's going to be very complicated, maybe possible by using pv, but I don't know how.
Perhaps better ask in the 'Programming' section.

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PostPosted: Thu 04 Oct 2018, 05:49    Post subject:  

thanks fred,
it would be very useful
if you can add pdftodjvu
to repositories-
to be possible to install
with synaptic
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djvu is great app, much faster
and better than pdf!
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