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Pelo

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PostPosted: Sun 24 Sep 2017, 04:49    Post subject: 8geee, upload speed is like a turtle in France too  

8geee, upload speed is like a turtle in France too. That is one of the reasons why i don't Pupplish (publish ! ) my puplets. But only some pets.
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Mike Walsh


Joined: 28 Jun 2014
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Location: King's Lynn, UK.

PostPosted: Sat 07 Oct 2017, 18:06    Post subject:  

tallboy wrote:
Your mouse has been moved.
Windows will now restart so this change can take effect!


^^^ Laughing Laughing

.....or (as I saw somewhere the other day):-

"Your keyboard has stopped responding. Please press any key to restart....."

Typical MyCrudSoft tact!


Mike. Wink

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prehistoric


Joined: 23 Oct 2007
Posts: 1734

PostPosted: Sun 08 Oct 2017, 09:01    Post subject: M$ killing W7 and W8
Subject description: never mind XP, M$ is slow to fix vulnerabilities in 7
 

Remember how one draw for using a M$ system in a business was the stability it offers, (at least if you buy the Professional version.) I have been helping close friends who are tied to such machines at work with their home machines, but I drew the line at W10.

(My original concern was the "telemetry" which collected keystrokes, and changes to licensing which allowed them to do this and a range of other things to people dependent on their good will.)

One of these people attempted to upgrade a W7 Pro machine I had built to W10.

(He felt this machine was not ready for the scrap heap because it had a quad-core processor and 32 GB. of RAM, a substantial capital investment at the time. This was more memory than the video editing workstation he had at work. He could have used more cores, but the limitation on RAM was more important to him. I've offered to upgrade his graphics adapter several times, but he is happy with what he has even if it is slow on the latest games. He isn't interested in playing games, and he doesn't want the problems that go with the high-performance card he uses at work. He has literally spent days on the phone with the supplier.)

After about 5 hours on the phone with (real) official M$ support in India they gave up and gave him a free copy of W7 Ultimate to use. He then spent hours downloading and installing this and various drivers.

I might have been able to get around the new problems with W10, had I been willing, but it appears that you can't simply put W10 on a homebuilt Windows machine without information requiring you sign an NDA. M$ only wants to work with big companies that sign other contracts with them. This is in addition to all the new information they gain free from users of W10. They appear to want every part of their business to be a profit center, regardless of what they promised earlier.

It goes almost without saying that I had little trouble putting several versions of Linux on that platform, so there should not have been major compatibility issues.

Now we learn something I had suspected, but could not confirm. M$ isn't patching major vulnerabilities in W7 and W8 systems, even though the Professional versions of these are said to be supported until 2020.

Large numbers of W7 users have been quite happy with what they have, and unwilling to move on to the next level of the upgrade treadmill. They are now getting a lesson in corporate leverage, not to say extortion.

Ah, I hear you say, Linux is having trouble with serious kernel-level vulnerabilities too. I've already been able to simply replace the kernel in my system, and even compiled my own device drivers. I've also upgraded multiple browsers I use in the past few days without having to commit to a new OS, as with Edge. I also keep multiple browsers current, in case there is a sudden need to change. In the worst case, I can simply disable new OS features that bring vulnerabilities with them, and I am right back to where I was a couple years ago without any new puzzles to solve. At my age this is reassuring. Wink
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ahoppin

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PostPosted: Tue 17 Oct 2017, 02:53    Post subject:  

Microsoft's insistence on controlling machines we own actually started with XP. I kept on using Win98 and Win2K when XP came out with that obnoxious EULA.

Even today, a few XP and later programs will still run on Win2K, but most of those will also play nice with Wine.

I finally graduated to Puppy around 6-7 years ago. It does almost everything I need to do, and that includes more than the standard web, email, office stuff. Sometimes it takes a little more effort to get there than it did with Windows, now and then a LOT more, but I just consider that a learning experience.

I do have a weary old laptop with XP, and another, somewhat newer, with Win 7. Bought both used, so I personally never agreed to anything with MS. I use one or the other for those rare situations (a few times a year) in which Wine falls on its face and there's no suitable Linux application.

I won't let either Win laptop have anything to do with Redmond. The older one has no built-in wifi card, and the newer one has a hardware switch for wifi and bt. I shuttle files to and from them via usb stick sneakernet. They never download anything, and since they're never on the net they don't need security updates anyway. Take that, Bill Gates.

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hamoudoudou


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Location: rabat

PostPosted: Fri 13 Jul 2018, 03:34    Post subject: Windows tries to secure things,  

Your boss provides OS, and specialized software to help you for management. I practiced Windows NT, 2000, XP at the office. Sure when you are back at home, Puppy 4.3.1 was fun, even if nervous breakdown sometimes loosing time connecting the web.
Windows Xp was slow, but my time was paid, whatever i do.. Not the same at home time is gold.. Linux if free, but our pleasure is essential. Sure when you read fora, it seems that Puppy Linux makes lot of trouble..But it's only because people don't post if no trouble, or give up if not working at first boot.

Windows tries to secure things, for people having paid a support with the CD.. Puppy Linux enters everywhere.. Windows tries to stop it. Normal..
Unfortunately people who love PUPPY are 200,000 And windows is used by all others 1,000,000,000 (more). Used, nobody likes Windows.
People using Puppy as a training OS for their experiments don't like Puppy, they like experiments..
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rockedge


Joined: 11 Apr 2012
Posts: 640
Location: Connecticut, United States

PostPosted: Fri 13 Jul 2018, 13:02    Post subject:  

hamoudoudou not in my case...your wrong. I like Puppy Linux from the start. I have been using computers in all kinds of ways since 1975. Many operating systems from mainframe systems to router operating systems including weapons targeting and delivery from aircraft.
Puppy is the most reliable straight forward and easy on my mind never mind that it works on just about anything I have tried to boot it from

I liked DOS.....version 5 I had great assembly code libraries for QuickBasic 4.5 written by a guy in England which allowed me to write some advanced gui stuff that ran soooo fast.... on the same machine Windows 3.1 slowed it to crawl I still use DOS programs today because they work...
A small business I recently helped has it entire database and client lists on software custom written for them...all DOS based...the company has the latest greatest machines from Apple so stuck DosBox on them and they run DOS programs all day to do business.

Puppy does a lot of heavy lifting for me .... a great work Pup....a great companion. I have Windows 10...I run it once a year to do taxes.
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hamoudoudou


Joined: 24 Jul 2014
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Location: rabat

PostPosted: Fri 13 Jul 2018, 14:04    Post subject: Producers are free to sell computers with no OS or a differ  

my answerwas mainly to ahoppin about Windows . Tar is true that Windows will allow producers to sell computers with Windows only if the accept teir rules..
If not :
Producers are free to sell computers with no OS or a different OS.
Eeeuuh i don'like Windows, But i prefer Windows to Ubuntu.

I like Puppy,
"Puppy Linux advantage
Ready to use → all tools for common daily usage already included.
Ease of use → grandpa-friendly certified ™
Relatively small size → 300 MB or less.
Fast and versatile.
Customisable within minutes → remasters.
Different flavours → optimised to support older computers, newer computers.
Variety → hundreds of derivatives (“puplets”), one of which will surely meet your needs."
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