Google must be regulated

[belham2]

Google spends more money on lobbying the government than any other company in its quest to not be regulated in any way, shape or form.
https://www.theguardian.com/technology/ ... c-politics

Google shutting down its critics.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/pos ... stop-them/

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These guys
https://www.ixquick.com/

and duckduckgo are competitors to google.

For a long time I have been saying that the era of the nation state is coming to an end and will be replaced with corporate states that are not tied to a physical location. Conglomerates are what is replacing empires. Armies are being replaced by "private security" and other mercenary forces. Democracies may hold the trend back for a while but I don't expect them to be able to keep enough of a focus to resist forever. Corporations are nearly perfect tyrannies and when is comes to singular purpose nothing beats a tyranny. The kings of old and their knights would not have seen our world coming.

Hey Moose,

Are you related to Paul Ehrlick, lol? For those that don't know who he is, go---pun intended--Google it. Nearly 23 years ago, the Nation-State was considered "dead", finished, by a majority of academics and casual observers like yourself. Yet, weirdly, here we are 23 yrs later, and the nation-states still rule not 99.999% of the world's landmass, but 100%. You'll be saying this----the nation-state is dead, and in its place will be (enter your favorite current theme here, i.e. your malicious, omni-potent, incredibly large corporations)---for another 23 years and 23 years beyond that. If you study how large corporations are put together, and function, it borders on almost fanatical lunacy to proclaim they will one day rule the world as nation-states do. This is not saying nation-states are the best thing going, this is a direct observation of people's Ehrlick-tendencies proclaiming something when in fact it has nothing to do with reality. If you want to know what will begin to fell "nation-states" as we now know them, stop focusing on ephemeral things like corporations (God, I an old enough to remember how the exact same things were said about Henry Ford and his Ford Corporation)....but if you want to know what will begin to render "nation-States" into something else that we cannot yet foresee, you could do way worse than study the rise of Bitcoin and bitcoin-related currencies. That's what you're looking for, that is the thing that is coming like an unbelievably fast asteroid out of left field. As things now stand, there is no corporation that is not going to be upended by the changes wrought by digital currency not backed by any nation-state. And by extension, there will be a lot---a lot---of current nation-states that don't survive it either.

[perdido]

Google is becoming a big bully.

Google is now doing "Everything possible to strangle the reach without deleting it." of youtube videos
that do not align with the google social engineering message.

Google now threatening websites that don't align with google's re-education of the masses

Contentious Memo Strikes Nerve Inside Google and Out
Non-politically correct engineer fired for expressing concerns about google's lack of diversity.

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[Flash]

I just read that Steve Bannon is in favor of regulating Facebook and Google as public utilities. Previously I might have agreed, but if Steve Bannon is for it, I'm against it.

[8Geee]

Googlenomics includes the monetizing of all followers.
Since YT stopped supporting IE I wonder if edge was included.
MisterSoftie is not going to like that.

I will say that the above caused the EZ2Use Fiirefox app for YT to go back to the manual approach of watching YT vids.

I really do not trust google and chrome and flash and IE. I think the goal here is to feed us the news based upon what we like, not what is actually happening. We get the spin based upon what our on-line history is, not what the facts are.

As one former President said, "What is "is"?"

Regards
8Geee

[anikin]

What happens when you criticize Google? You get the boot
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z15sYGXzyKg

[Moose On The Loose]

Are you related to Paul Ehrlick, lol? For those that don't know who he is, go---pun intended--Google it. Nearly 23 years ago, the Nation-State was considered "dead", finished, by a majority of academics and casual observers like yourself. Yet, weirdly, here we are 23 yrs later, and the nation-states still rule not 99.999% of the world's landmass, but 100%.

You seem to have missed my point about the corporate state not being tied to locations. It is the area of economics and not geography where they are taking over. We already have quite a few companies with bigger budgets than some nations. We have private security forces working as the armies for them.

[anikin]

New concerns over the influence of big tech's power
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ZPDqzETNj0

[Pelo]

what i know is that google will brings me to the exact page of the Puppy Forum where my info is, other bring me to the page one of the topic.
About regulating, don't forget that until now you can communicate thanks to the US army. They can cut the flow when they like, where they like.
Wait a little, European satellites will get an alternative soon
What i mean is that you have no choice ! Google is the more powerful.

[ahoppin]

I'm no Google fan, but does anyone else think it's a bit odd and ironic that Google's critics are using video clips posted on Youtube -- a Google service -- to slam Google?

One would think that if Google were truly omnipotent and omniscient, they wouldn't allow their own service to be used against them.

But maybe it's to Google's benefit. Every time someone views one of these video clips, Google gets revenue from the ad views. They also get to build a database of people who might be opposed to Google. They know who you are, even if you're not logged in.

It may well be that Google has too much reach, but I'm not so sure that I trust regulators to be even-handed in reining them in. I think that what we really need is more skepticism and deeper critical thinking among the public consuming Google and other net services.

One of the things I like about Puppy (and other Linux variants) is that I think it encourages users to be more actively involved in their online activity -- to think more. These days many phones, tablets, laptops, and even desktop computers are just appliances for passive consumption, essentially 21st century television sets.

And if you want more privacy, you can open a virtual machine and boot Puppy from an ISO image with no savefile. With a vpn you have even more privacy, but that would probably require a savefile, I suppose.

[perdido]

Google showing off its true character, then gets sued.

Google could be forced to pay over five million iPhone users £2.7 billion in compensation
as it is accused of selling their data without their consent.

That will get back a little of the £45 billion the UK is paying for brexit.

[rufwoof]

Google showing off its true character, then gets sued.

Google could be forced to pay over five million iPhone users £2.7 billion in compensation
as it is accused of selling their data without their consent.

That will get back a little of the £45 billion the UK is paying for brexit.

The EU (ECB) printing 20 billion more Euro's each week ... week after week for over a year makes the amount ... insignificant. Money used to be something tangible ... exchangeable for gold and stayed the same for centuries (but with significant volatility along the way around the mean). Since the US took the helm ... money is just a figure backed by nothing tangible. A means to indirectly tax ('counterfeitor' gets the benefit to spend the newly created notes whilst all other notes in circulation are devalued a little).

The EU insisted on negotiations following a course of agree a payment first and then they'll talk about what that buys. It's only a offer to get things moving and nothing is agreed until everything is agreed. Likely everything wont be agreed as the EU has too many conflicts of interests. In which case the £45 billion wont be forthcoming (and Ireland will sink into recession as it will have barriers to transporting through the UK onto the rest of the world and EU, and has 50% import tax levies applied to farm produce ...etc.). The NI border is interesting, as they'll be no border controls going from Ireland into NI (cheaper and more effective to police NI/UK mainland points of entry internally within the UK), but the EU will insist on controls the other way (310 miles land border + sea skirts, with many land owners having land that spans both). Let alone the collapse of their financial services (UK is due to history and geographic location the global #1 hub for accounting, banking and law ... trades more US$/day than are traded in the US).

[anikin]

Professor argues eating meat promotes toxic masculinity
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ir4Ltgj4o84

[belham2]

The Alphabet gang is at it again

https://www.theregister.co.uk/2017/12/1 ... i_adwords/

"Google asks browser rival Vivaldi to post uninstall instructions
Erm, just like Google doesn't. It's an AdWords thing, innit?

By Andrew Orlowski 18 Dec 2017 at 12:21

Google asked rival browser Vivaldi to add uninstall instructions on its website download page – something Google doesn't do itself – after deactivating Vivaldi's advertising account earlier this year.

Vivaldi is among the..................."

[8Geee]

Do as I say not as I do. --Google

As long as Google behaves this way the more it looks old-school... that good ol' boys network in disguise.

[Moose On The Loose]

Do as I say not as I do. --Google

As long as Google behaves this way the more it looks old-school... that good ol' boys network in disguise.

duckduckgo works

https://www.ixquick.com/ works

There is even the search tool from the legacy software company in Washington state to consider. I think its name is "bong" or something like that.

[8Geee]

Yup and Yup I use both DDG and IXQ.

There is an addon for my FF45.9esr "Google_Redirect_Fixer" that seems to tame the beast a bit (Re: maps, Earth, etc. that one might use anyway).

Regards
8Geee

[belham2]

Hello?

Morpheus?!

When and where shall the meeting be tonight??