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App windows won't fill screen in tahr 605 (Realy Solved)
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number77

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PostPosted: Thu 07 Sep 2017, 06:15    Post subject:  

[quote="bigpup"]
number77 wrote:
That does resize it but anything playing in the browser like iptv wont play any bigger than the original.

Could you post an image of what you now see, when it does this.[/quoteI
I can try
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PostPosted: Thu 07 Sep 2017, 08:09    Post subject:  

number77 wrote:
...If its not the hardware driver what else could it be.

My guess is a setting in either Pale Moon or Puppy. I googled 'pale moon browser' and found there's a forum with a help section for Linux. You might find an answer there.
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PostPosted: Thu 07 Sep 2017, 08:39    Post subject:  

[quote="number77"]
bigpup wrote:
number77 wrote:
That does resize it but anything playing in the browser like iptv wont play any bigger than the original.

Could you post an image of what you now see, when it does this.[/quoteI
I can try


Number77,

That behavior you're seeing is weird, period.

Is there any chance you can throw any other browser, say,a firefox-esr version (even temporarily, through a browser.sfs load-on-the-fly that is inserted usb---so you don't have to install the browser) and then see if this 1/3-1/4 screen-size thing keeps up?? Palemoon has exhibited some strange behavior in its last two versions, but the latest version corrected a lot of media playing problems. Still, I've never seen and/or heard anything like what you're seeing but you're definitely seeing it from the pics you posted. To be fair, though, hdmi pass-throughs of panasonic, sony and nec tvs are known to do strange things interacting with OSes---but the pup OS itself would overall be affected too. Furthermore, from your posted pics, its almost like palemoon by itself is seeing a completely different xorg.conf file as opposed to what the pup OS is using. Also, what is showing in Palemoon's settings (Edit-Preferences-Applications) for browser-loaded-only media files?
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PostPosted: Thu 07 Sep 2017, 10:02    Post subject:  

Flash wrote:
number77 wrote:
...If its not the hardware driver what else could it be.

My guess is a setting in either Pale Moon or Puppy. I googled 'pale moon browser' and found there's a forum with a help section for Linux. You might find an answer there.

Slight additional problem, vlc does exactly the same thing as palemoon, lack of size.
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PostPosted: Thu 07 Sep 2017, 10:51    Post subject:  

Try this:

After you select the full screen mode in the video screen.
Press F11 key.

Any help?

Are you using Flash Player to show the videos?

Could post a link to one of the videos so we could see what it does for us.

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PostPosted: Thu 07 Sep 2017, 10:57    Post subject:  

number77 wrote:
Flash wrote:
number77 wrote:
...If its not the hardware driver what else could it be.

My guess is a setting in either Pale Moon or Puppy. I googled 'pale moon browser' and found there's a forum with a help section for Linux. You might find an answer there.

Slight additional problem, vlc does exactly the same thing as palemoon, lack of size.



Well, there's the smoking gun. This is not a Palemoon problem> I suspect you've got palemoon, in its content settings, to open either VLC itself and/or the vlc plugin to play any media streams. In VLC itself, it is detecting your hardware, and sees that it is a TV it is hooked to, and is thus defaulting to what it thinks is the correct size. If this is all true, you fix this by going into VLC itself (open it without playing anything), go into its settings, and get it off the HDMI mode and onto a 1900x1080 or 1600x1200 or 1366x768 (or whatever you native screen size is). It would help if you looked in your /ETC/X11/xorg.conf file and see what exact screen settings are being used. Input that into VLC. Then, logout of your OS and back in, and see if that doesn't help.

Smacking the F11 button is going to do nothing when it comes to VLC if VLC is set a certain way.
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PostPosted: Thu 07 Sep 2017, 11:16    Post subject:  

Try this:
In Palemoon
Tools>Add-ons>Appearance

Make sure it is using the default theme.

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PostPosted: Thu 07 Sep 2017, 13:06    Post subject:  

Sorry to confuse the problem but Its not only palemoon and vlc lacking size its everything: mpaint, abi word processor in fact all programs. Desktop is full screen, all else not.
Its a new pc and install so I didn't notice.
And yes its using default theme.
xorg.conf says its 1900x1080
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PostPosted: Thu 07 Sep 2017, 13:11    Post subject:  

So, we are back to the widows size settings.

Those size settings not working? Question Question Question

On a very new install, most windows do not open full size.
However, sizing the window should be as simple as selecting a size option.

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PostPosted: Thu 07 Sep 2017, 13:26    Post subject:  

Run the command: xrandr

I'm guessing that X is confused by the HDMI video output.
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PostPosted: Thu 07 Sep 2017, 13:54    Post subject:  

rcrsn51 wrote:
Run the command: xrandr

I'm guessing that X is confused by the HDMI video output.

xrandr says hdmi2 connected 1920x1080+0+0
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PostPosted: Fri 08 Sep 2017, 00:11    Post subject:  

For any window.

Are any of the change size options working???????????

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PostPosted: Fri 08 Sep 2017, 03:59    Post subject:  

There are many modes but all lower than the 1920x1080.
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PostPosted: Fri 08 Sep 2017, 10:31    Post subject:  

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Sorry to confuse the problem but Its not only palemoon and vlc lacking size its everything: mpaint, abi word processor in fact all programs. Desktop is full screen, all else not.


bigpup wrote:
For any window.

Are any of the change size options working???????????


We could help you if you would answer the questions!!!

If you cannot use the program window size options, we need to know that!!

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PostPosted: Fri 08 Sep 2017, 11:13    Post subject:  

I know this is radical, but this point, I am all for blowing away all xorg-related stuff in your Tahr, 77, and then re-installing it alll over again via booting a Tahr live-distro
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