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peebee · #166 Post by **peebee** » Mon 16 Oct 2017, 15:04

17.10.14 delta brings:

- PupControl customisation
- some further PTheme tweaks from @zigbert in woof-ce

- couple of additions to menu
- wpa_supplicant update

Billtoo · #167 Post by **Billtoo** » Tue 17 Oct 2017, 06:56

I applied the delta, did a manual frugal install to a 16gb flash drive,
did basic setup and rebooted creating the save file, changed kernels
then rebooted and did more setup.

# inxi -bw
System: Host: puppypc18773 Kernel: 4.9.56-pae i686 (32 bit) Desktop: JWM 2.3.7 Distro: ZestyPup 17.10.13
Machine: Device: desktop System: HP product: 260-p029 serial: CNV6240BWP
Mobo: HP model: 81B4 v: 01 serial: PFPSK0BWJ301LW UEFI [Legacy]: AMI v: F.04 date: 05/10/2016
CPU: Dual core Intel Core i3-6100T (-HT-MCP-) speed/max: 800/3101 MHz
Graphics: Card: Intel HD Graphics 530
Display Server: X.org 1.19.3 driver: intel tty size: 121x22 Advanced Data: N/A for root
Network: Card-1: Realtek RTL8111/8168/8411 PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet Controller driver: r8169
Card-2: Realtek RTL8723BE PCIe Wireless Network Adapter driver: rtl8723be
Drives: HDD Total Size: 1031.7GB (0.3% used)
Weather: Conditions: 30 F (-1 C) - Partly Cloudy Time: October 17, 2:43 AM EDT
Info: Processes: 197 Uptime: 1:34 Memory: 212.9/3898.0MB Client: Shell (bash) inxi: 2.3.8
#

No problems to report so far.
Thanks.
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EDIT: I installed arandr from PPM and connected a second monitor.

belham2 · #168 Post by **belham2** » Tue 17 Oct 2017, 09:45

Delta 17.10.13 applied, all is good here as my orange-themed ZestyRadky-killer-pumpkin-descending-planet comes along

P.S. oooh, peebee, new desktop trash icon...gracias

belham2 · #169 Post by **belham2** » Tue 17 Oct 2017, 10:32

....and all is working equally good on my ZestypupXFCE with the 17.10.13 delta applied. Zesty is da bee's knees, Peebee!

belham2 · #170 Post by **belham2** » Tue 17 Oct 2017, 18:29

peebee wrote:17.10.14 delta brings:

- PupControl customisation
- some further PTheme tweaks from @zigbert in woof-ce

- couple of additions to menu
- wpa_supplicant update

Thanks, Peebee. Delta 17.10.14 applied and looks good so far. Relief that Zesty and the DDogs are now patched concerning the wpa-Supplicant issue. I'm a sprinting to keep up with ya, baby! But it sure is appreciated how you stay on top of your releases

hamoudoudou · #171 Post by **hamoudoudou** » Tue 17 Oct 2017, 19:15

no feed back about zesty in japanese forum. Japanese Downloaders at the top, US better..
What about 50MB libs for 3D, useles in my opinion.. (not only mine, question was already studied with ASRI EDU)

peebee · #172 Post by **peebee** » Tue 17 Oct 2017, 19:39

hamoudoudou wrote:What about 50MB libs for 3D, useles in my opinion..

Please provide a list....
Have you tried deleting these libs? Does the system still work correctly?

666philb · #173 Post by **666philb** » Tue 17 Oct 2017, 20:06

hi peebee,

been testing 17.10.14.....

discovered a pmusic issue see here http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic. ... 224#971224

pctorrent is set as the default torrent app rather than transmission-gtk

there's no option to turn compton off once started from the menu.

the 'menu manager' in 'desktop settings' has an errant stray battery icon appearing in the background.

pplog is missing a couple of perl modules attached below.

looking good!

Billtoo · #174 Post by **Billtoo** » Tue 17 Oct 2017, 20:13

Applied the delta and did a manual frugal install to the hard drive of
Acer laptop:

# inxi -bw
System: Host: puppypc26983 Kernel: 4.9.56-pae i686 (32 bit) Desktop: JWM 2.3.7 Distro: ZestyPup 17.10.14
Machine: Device: laptop System: Acer product: Aspire 7740 v: Rev serial: LXPNX02012004098672000
Mobo: Acer model: Aspire 7740 v: Rev serial: LXPNX02012004098672000
BIOS: Phoenix v: V1.15 date: 12/25/2009
Battery BAT0: charge: 44.0 Wh 100.0% condition: 44.0/44.0 Wh (100%)
CPU: Dual core Intel Core i5 M 430 (-HT-MCP-) speed/max: 1199/2267 MHz
Graphics: Card: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD/ATI] Park [Mobility Radeon HD 5430/5450/5470]
Display Server: X.org 1.19.3 driver: radeon tty size: 131x23 Advanced Data: N/A for root
Network: Card-1: Broadcom Limited NetLink BCM57780 Gigabit Ethernet PCIe driver: tg3
Card-2: Qualcomm Atheros AR928X Wireless Network Adapter (PCI-Express) driver: ath9k
Drives: HDD Total Size: 500.1GB (8.1% used)
Weather: Conditions: 61 F (16 C) - Scattered Clouds Time: October 17, 4:00 PM EDT
Info: Processes: 180 Uptime: 1:03 Memory: 207.1/3901.9MB Client: Shell (bash) inxi: 2.3.8
#

It's working well,
Thanks for the update.
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Edit: I saved a conky command line as a script,made it executable and put it in /root/startup.
Seems to be working okay.
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EDIT2: I edited the conky.rc file and put the conky.exe file in /root/startup - it shows wireless stats now.

zigbert · #175 Post by **zigbert** » Tue 17 Oct 2017, 20:18

Tried a full scale test today of a fresh 17.10.14.
- printer
- scanner
- cellphone (pupcamera)
- installed Gimp/inkscape
- Running Ocad via Wine
- Streaming tv
No major issues so far.

Zesty does everything I do in my long-used Slacko system.
Great stuff!

The only minor thing I found is that the default filetype in Xsane (pnm) has no run-action in Rox.

bigpup · #176 Post by **bigpup** » Tue 17 Oct 2017, 20:21

ZestryPup 17.10.14
Fresh frugal install
First bootup

Initial setup window click on I need help.
Help Surfer opens, but noting on it.

See images.

hamoudoudou · #177 Post by **hamoudoudou** » Tue 17 Oct 2017, 20:37

libLLVM is simply the biggest lib of Puppy.. Yes i deleted it. No impact but i don't use nvidia drivers. I don't have any 3D to test.
Mistfire has yet studied everything to make slim his X-Xlacko
It's an information.. If these lib well useless, they have no bad impact .
====> System Processes (top) <====

Mem: 1563644K used, 2473492K free, 356244K shrd, 286916K buff, 985236K cached
CPU: 0% usr 2% sys 0% nic 97% idle 0% io 0% irq 0% sirq
Load average: 0.13 0.29 0.27 1/230 28763

PID PPID USER STAT VSZ %VSZ CPU %CPU COMMAND
28762 28761 root R 4564 0% 3 2% top -b -n1
9281 7603 root S 537m 13% 0 0% light

zigbert · #178 Post by **zigbert** » Tue 17 Oct 2017, 20:41

A look at the 666philb's music issue...

I think ffmpeg is to blame
- ffconvert did not like the track either.
- It plays well in Slacko 7 (ffmpeg 2.6.1)

There are also trouble with several podcast channel giving similar output. Eg BBC (pMusic default podcast channel)

woof-installed-packages shows these dependencies for ffmpeg:

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+sdl,+x264,+speex,+libogg,+libvorbis,+faac,+libvpx,+schroedinger,+libtheora,+lame

Is flac support builtin, or is it depending on a lib?

No errors to terminal

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ffmpeg -i "/root/Downloads/04. My Great-Grandmother Lived In The Mountains.flac"  -ss 0 -af "volume=2.8dB" -f au - | aplay
ffmpeg version 3.3.2 Copyright (c) 2000-2017 the FFmpeg developers
  built with gcc 7.1.0 (GCC)
  configuration: --prefix=/usr --libdir=/usr/lib --enable-libmp3lame --enable-libx264 --enable-pthreads --enable-small --enable-postproc --enable-libvorbis --enable-gpl --enable-shared --enable-nonfree --enable-libopencore-amrnb --enable-libopencore-amrwb --disable-debug --enable-bzlib --enable-zlib --enable-libspeex --enable-version3 --enable-runtime-cpudetect --enable-libxcb --enable-libschroedinger --enable-libtheora --enable-libxvid --enable-swscale --enable-libvpx
  libavutil      55. 58.100 / 55. 58.100
  libavcodec     57. 89.100 / 57. 89.100
  libavformat    57. 71.100 / 57. 71.100
  libavdevice    57.  6.100 / 57.  6.100
  libavfilter     6. 82.100 /  6. 82.100
  libswscale      4.  6.100 /  4.  6.100
  libswresample   2.  7.100 /  2.  7.100
  libpostproc    54.  5.100 / 54.  5.100
Input #0, flac, from '/root/Downloads/04. My Great-Grandmother Lived In The Mountains.flac':
  Metadata:
    TITLE           : My Great-Grandmother Lived In The Mountains
    ALBUM           : Aeolian Processes
    album_artist    : Lorenzo Masotto
    ARTIST          : Lorenzo Masotto
    TRACKTOTAL      : 11
    DATE            : 2017
    track           : 4
  Duration: 00:03:58.00, start: 0.000000, bitrate: 546 kb/s
    Stream #0:0: Audio: flac, 44100 Hz, stereo, s16
Stream mapping:
  Stream #0:0 -> #0:0 (flac (native) -> pcm_s16be (native))
Press [q] to stop, [?] for help
Output #0, au, to 'pipe:':
  Metadata:
    TITLE           : My Great-Grandmother Lived In The Mountains
    ALBUM           : Aeolian Processes
    album_artist    : Lorenzo Masotto
    ARTIST          : Lorenzo Masotto
    TRACKTOTAL      : 11
    DATE            : 2017
    track           : 4
    encoder         : Lavf57.71.100
    Stream #0:0: Audio: pcm_s16be ([3][0][0][0] / 0x0003), 44100 Hz, stereo, s16, 1411 kb/s
    Metadata:
      encoder         : Lavc57.89.100 pcm_s16be
Playing raw data 'stdin' : Unsigned 8 bit, Rate 8000 Hz, Mono

hamoudoudou · #179 Post by **hamoudoudou** » Tue 17 Oct 2017, 20:59

"The slackware-current llvm package is a humongous 54MB so I really don't want to have to include it if at all possible in a 250MB iso.....it's absence doesn't seem to be causing many problems except 01micko reported" PeeBee said
It's the same for Zesty, PeeBee.

(50MB only). Treesize makes that evident. I often find MBs for Firefox, Abiword left here when devs want to make lighter Puppies.. in fact they let the bigger part of apps included.

bigpup · #180 Post by **bigpup** » Tue 17 Oct 2017, 21:04

ZestyPup 17.10.14
Fresh frugal install
Save folder.

Wonder why Billtoo's post of the Htop does not show this?

Seeing a lot of CPU usage from two processes.
syslogd
klogd

Do not remember seeing this in other versions of ZestyPup.
Have only done basic setup and changed some desktop settings.

Htop shows this:

hamoudoudou · #181 Post by **hamoudoudou** » Tue 17 Oct 2017, 21:14

bigpup, even if 30% seems a lot for Puppy Linux, it should not freeze anything as it does.. 30% to 100% .
Four processors hardly making viewnior show a picture is very strange.. I wait for more users feed back. Tere is a process running badly, quite sure. Which one ? Eh eh, i don't know..

I am a poor passenger.

Better would have to keep the kernel -50, IMO
Why did you change for -56 ?

LibLLVM :
verified well deleted by Mistfire X-Slim Slacko
It seems that Saintless did the same for making Debian Live-CD as light as a Puppy.

ubuntu 17.10 The Artful Aardvark replaces Zesty, Gnome will replace Unity. as default desktop.

Robert123 · #182 Post by **Robert123** » Wed 18 Oct 2017, 03:42

hamoudoudou wrote:bI am a poor passenger.
.

Ah so you are Pelo - I knew I could smell a rat.

hamoudoudou · #183 Post by **hamoudoudou** » Wed 18 Oct 2017, 04:47

Puppy package manager tested with Pencil 2D , Qt5 dependencies. No trouble with my version kernel 4.9.50.
Hurry up, zesty is supported until january.

Kernel : Linux 4.9.50-lxpup-32-pae (i686)
Version : #1 SMP Sun Sep 17 20:10:02 +08 2017
C Library : GNU C Library version 2.24 (stable)
Distribution : ZestyPup - 17.10.01
-Current Session-
Computer Name : puppypc22226
User Name : root (root)
Home Directory : /root
Desktop Environment : Unknown (Window Manager: JWM)
-Misc-
Uptime : 22 minutes
Load Average : 0.24, 0.34, 0.27

bigpup · #184 Post by **bigpup** » Wed 18 Oct 2017, 06:07

peebee wrote:17.10.14 delta brings:

- wpa_supplicant update

Is this wpa update about the newly discovered security issue?
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=111832

charlie6 · #185 Post by **charlie6** » Wed 18 Oct 2017, 07:08

Hi,

here running version 17.10.12

Wonder how to move rox windows columns?
That was possible just by pointing+left click pressed the header title and drag the column to desired location.
I cannot do it here.

Thanks for any advice?

Best regards, Charlie

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ArtfulPup (& Upup-Bionic-Beaver-RC)

ZestyPup - Beta build

no feed back about zesty in japanese forum

ZestyPup - Beta build

libLLVM is simply te bigger lib of Puppy..

humongous 54MB

Four processors hardly making viewnior

Re: Four processors hardly making viewnior

Puppy package manager tested with Pencil 2D

rox window: cannot move columns